Apple Likely Aiming for Late October Launch of Redesigned MacBook Pro

[citysnaps]

Apple doesn't care about photographers any more. If they did, Aperture would still be around.

With respect to Aperture, Apple as a computer/mobile device company couldn't keep up with Adobe whose sole focus as a company is about developing and supporting professional grade image processing software. No surprise Apple pulled out. Lightroom was always far superior to Aperture. Right from the beginning years ago. Which was why after evaluating both LR and Aperture when those applications were released, I quickly adopted Lightroom and never looked back. Easy decision, as much as I like Apple as a company.

That doesn't mean Apple doesn't care about photographers who use their devices.

 

[Xerotech]

I'm still rocking my 2012 rMBP and it's working perfectly fine. Credits to Apple for making a great machine - minus the LG screen ghosting *ugh*

Me having an awful experience with Apple back-2-back on newly released products, I'll have to hold off on the next generation.

 

[richman555]

My Mid 2010 Macbook Pro is finally starting to feel aged and its almost time for me to shop for a new laptop.

I am hopeful that 512gb of solid state comes in cheaper along with 16 gb of super fast RAM.

 

[merkinmuffley]

If the rumored updates prove to be what we're getting, this has taken far too long. I'm wondering why?

 

[vpro]

This isn't new. This stuff has been circulating for a whole year. I really don't like how it looks and the whole OLED strip, sooooo tacky hahahahaha !!!!

 

[patent10021]

It would be nice if the "Pro" line had a GPU suitable for serious data science/machine learning.

 

[dsampley]

How about a little more warning.

I need to make a case to my significent other for a new rMBP and these 'negotiations' can take time in my house.

I thought I was the only one who had that problem

 

[hleewell]

5K Thunderbolt Display.
Available in 27" & 32".

 

[fastasleep]

.... sure- its just another couple hundred bucks or so, right? What's with all the complaining?

For the minority of users who have a desktop setup where they want HDMI/FW800/Ethernet/eSATA and five USB-A ports for all of their legacy hardware, that's the price of clinging to the past. The rest of us will move on and not be burdened by "port salad" as someone aptly put it and make do with an adapter or two for the interim.

 

[hleewell]

Quad Core Mac Mini please!

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New display technology
Touch ID functionality
Hardcore gaming speed
USB-C all around
SD card slot is a toss up
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Apple does not design for professionals anymore, unless it is an oversight.

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It would be nice if the "Pro" line had a GPU suitable for serious data science/machine learning.

 

[fastasleep]

How did intel drop the ball and prevent Apple from putting Skylake into their MBP a year ago?

Kaby Lake has been available in the OEM's manufacturing channels for a while now, they should be hitting the street any time now. It's not going to take 3 months. And maybe these October macs will even be Kaby Lake. If not, is Apple going to commit to staying more than a year behind everyone else or will they release MBPs next month and again in the spring?

My guess is Apple is waiting for Kaby lake to hit the streets before moving to Skylake so they can get a deal on the old chips.

Because 1) Skylake chipsets appropriate for the MBP were not available a year ago and 2) neither are Kaby Lake chipsets now.

Skylake for MBP = 6770HQ/6870HQ/6970HQ w/Iris Pro 580. Only seen late this summer in Intel's Skull Canyon NUC and in no other shipping laptop as of yet.

Kaby Lakes out now are low power 15W/28W(?) chips which are not appropriate for MBP, those will be out in *mumble mumble* 2017.
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If the rumored updates prove to be what we're getting, this has taken far too long. I'm wondering why?

Lack of appropriate CPUs and GPUs for one...

 

[karmstrong75]

NOW wait just a minute here stop the presses, I was under the understanding apple no longer made the MAC and their sole focus was on iPad/iPhones?

 

[fastasleep]

5K Thunderbolt Display.
Available in 27" & 32".

With 20 USB-A ports and a Zip Drive in back.

 

[eltaurus]

Finally some love for mac, and for mac pro please increase size and add second CPU as well.

 

[KPOM]

So they're going to release laptops with cpu's that are already on the market for 1 year...

Gone are the days I guess when Apple would release new machines with brand new Intel cpu's that nobody else had for a few more months... Now they are charging premium pricing for oldtechnology, milking it for years on end...

Maybe, just maybe they will surprise us with Kaby Lake MBP's. Though I'm not betting on it.

Except the 28W chips with Iris graphics just came out a few weeks ago, not a year ago. Their Kaby Lake replacements aren't expected until 2017.

The only time Apple got an Intel chip early was with the original MacBook Air. That chip overheated all the time. On the later MacBook Air and Pro Apple stuck with the aging Core 2 Duo until July 2011, a full year after competitors switched to the Core i5/i7 chips.

 

[Branflaakes]

Why the **** does 90% of "photographers" on Macrumors think that 90% of the rMBP user demographic are DSLR/Mirrorless camera photographers?

 

[cult hero]

Apple hitched their wagon to AMD for OpenCL performance years ago and it turned out to be a poor decision, IMO. AMD has been playing catch-up to nVidia for years now and it doesn't look like they're going to get there anytime soon at the rate they're going.

But hey, I'm sure Apple has some pretty awesome margins for AMD's chips nowadays. Tim certainly would appreciate that.

I have no answer for this except that it's just wrong. AMD, especially in terms of output per watt has been better for large stretches. That's kind of an important thing in mobile devices.

It looks to me like Apple is hitching to Metal more than anything.

And they hardly hitched themselves to AMD. It's gone back and forth fairly consistently but hey, why let those sorts of things spoil your narrative?

 

[nerven]

How's about an iPod Touch Plus Update?

 

[KeeFX]

Speed difference between Skylake and Kaby Lake in the latops will be minimal at best. Most heavy pro-users wouldn't be able to tell. It's more of a battery impovement in Kaby Lake, which it seems is quite drastic when you read reviews on current Windows laptops that have the new chipset.

I have been waiting for such a long, long time for a new MBP, just so I can make the decision to either get a Windows laptop (am currently on just a Lenovo W10 tablet, which is still a nice little thing) or go back to Mac. I'm quite a heavy user of FCPX so this is where I'm torn. I'm just hoping they don't come out and are insanely overly expensive...

 

[LordVic]

Why the **** does 90% of "photographers" on Macrumors think that 90% of the rMBP user demographic are DSLR/Mirrorless camera photographers?

Because most hobbiest and nearly all professional photographers will use a camera setup that gives them a better quality image, more consistently, while also giving full control over their artistic desires.

This usually is in the realm of cameras with interchangeable lens systems and larger sensor sizes.

And these tend to be found only in mirror less and DSLRs.

Photography is purely dependant on light. The bigger the gear, the more light that can be captured, and the quality of the image itself can be greater.

In the past, Apple pro computers were very much focused on media production. Which married very well with large, data rich files that traditionally are also only available on the bigger sensors.

 

[tomnavratil]

Move over to Sony and don't look back...

Not sure that's a good advice for people who invested thousands into glass. Switching for example from 5dMIII or D810 to what exactly?

 

[LiveM]

These new products are great! Each announcement makes my 2012 Mac Mini even more valuable.

 

[tomnavratil]

Apple does not design for professionals anymore, unless it is an oversight.

That is a sad truth indeed.

 

[Branflaakes]

Because most hobbiest and nearly all professional photographers will use a camera setup that gives them a better qualified ty image, more consistently, while also giving full control over their artistic desires.

This usually is in the realm of cameras with interchangeable lens systems and larger sensor sizes.

And these tend to be found only in mirror less and DSLRs.

Photography is purely dependant on light. The bigger the gear, the more light that can be captured, and the quality of the image itself can be greater.

In the past, Apple pro computers were very much focused on media production. Which married very well with large, data rich files that traditionally are also only available on the bigger sensors.

I do enough photography to know about interchangeable lens and sensor size being the biggest proponent to image quality. However, that WASN'T my question. I'm saying why 90% of "photographers" on THIS website think that 90% of the rMBP demographic hobby photographers. Even though I've done years of hobby photography, I know that most users aren't going to use the SD slot and WiFi transfer is the future, and it doesn't inhibit much.

 

[cult hero]

For the minority of users who have a desktop setup where they want HDMI/FW800/Ethernet/eSATA and five USB-A ports for all of their legacy hardware, that's the price of clinging to the past. The rest of us will move on and not be burdened by "port salad" as someone aptly put it and make do with an adapter or two for the interim.

I actually have this issue and haven't been burdened. Thunderbolt docks are awesome. I plug in power and Thunderbolt at my desk and I have video, Ethernet, a FireWire drive and all of my USB devices.

This is why Thunderbolt exists. I have have native speed on virtually any new connection. I don't have to settle for some crappy USB to Ethernet adapter on my laptop. I can get the real deal. And what's even better? I can get multiple Ethernet connections which is handy when I'm configuring certain networks and testing through VMs.

I hear people say nonsense about what "Pro" users need but I don't know if a lot of laptops where I can have 3 native Ethernet ports running all at once. It's super handy for the Mac Mini I use as a server.

And with Thunderbolt 3 we're going to finally have access to external GPUs, which is my dream. Gaming when at my desk and even shareable between machines. When I'm on the road I rarely lean very hard on my GPU.

Fact is, the most vocal in their complaints want a faster horse. One port to rule them all is something I have been eagerly awaiting since USB first hit the scenes.

Except the 28W chips with Iris graphics just came out a few weeks ago, not a year ago. Their Kaby Lake replacements aren't expected until 2017.

The only time Apple got an Intel chip early was with the original MacBook Air. That chip overheated all the time. On the later MacBook Air and Pro Apple stuck with the aging Core 2 Duo until July 2011, a full year after competitors switched to the Core i5/i7 chips.

Apple stuck with the C2D only on the 13" MBPs because Intel graphics were terrible and Intel hasn't allowed for third party chipset makers since switching to the i series. They compromised by staying with a C2D so they could keep the nVidea chipset with much better graphics performance.

Incidentally, I still have one of those laptops and with maxed out RAM and an SSD it's quite serviceable.