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Odd Timing

Am I the only one who finds the timing of the event Odd? Usually a big media event is at the beginning of the week so you can get people talking about it all week. Seems that by doing it on a Thursday they aren't planning any real big announcements.
 
The iPad is kinda a bust. For me anyway. Especially now with bigger iPhones. They've looked basically the same all along, they basically offer the same function as my iPhone. I just don't see any reason to want/need one.. and I love looking for an excuse to buy Apple stuff. lol.

For me the larger phones are nice, very nice, but even the 6 plus is closer in size to the 5s than even the ipad mini.:

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I can see OSX becoming touch-friendly, but there will (for the near future, at least) be two separate OSes for iDevices and Macs. Though I do think we will reach a point where there ceases to be a distinction between a computer and a mobile device and OSes will just be different experiences based on screen size, display, and peripherals connected.

What you're describing is very likely, in fact it's exactly what Microsoft is going for with windows 10. We will see if they can do it right or if it is something that will take many years before it really perfected.
 
you know the one big advantage directly to apple in making their products thinner every generation is they can ship way more of them for less. Higher margins due to decreased shipping. It also allows them to ship around many more units per delivery.
 
you know the one big advantage directly to apple in making their products thinner every generation is they can ship way more of them for less. Higher margins due to decreased shipping. It also allows them to ship around many more units per delivery.

Uhhhh, they would be able to ship more with reduced packaging than with making the ipad .01 millimeter thinner.

Please tell me you were trolling
 
Which one would you rather fit in a backpack :p

In all seriousness though, if you get up to that size, what's the point? I'd rather just carry my MacBook pro. The iPad Air is the perfect size to carry around.

Honestly if they actually announce an iPad that size/proportion...especially if it has a Wacom style level of touch sensitivity I'd finally take the leap. Since the first iPad came out I've been within a hairs breadth of pulling the trigger only to back off in the end because it just didn't seem to offer enough productivity to justify the expense.

But that form factor would be just big enough to allow me to leave my set of drawings (architect) in the office when I head to a jobsite and with better touch would be a perfect sketching platform.

I understand that if you just want to go to meetings and sit around a conference table why not just take a laptop...but the pro pad concept makes a lot of sense for a niche crowd...the question is whether the crowd is big enough to entice Apple to feed it.
 
Am I the only one who finds the timing of the event Odd? Usually a big media event is at the beginning of the week so you can get people talking about it all week. Seems that by doing it on a Thursday they aren't planning any real big announcements.

I'm guessing it's because 7.1 and Apple Pay are launching Thursday.
 
There is no better symbol of how stagnant Apple is than the iPad. It's little surprise that their sales are falling - Apple has failed to innovate in order to make people (normal people, as opposed to the Apple fanboys who would buy anything regardless) want to upgrade their iPads.

So, where has the iPhone innovated but the iPad not?
  • Retina, both iPhone and iPad have it
  • TouchID, both iPhone and iPad have it or will have it
  • Thinner and lighter, both iPhone and iPad have gone there
  • 64-bit ARM, both iPhone and iPad have it
  • Multiple sizes, the iPad actually got there before the iPhone
  • Yearly updates, both iPhone and iPad get those

I am not saying that all the arguments against the iPad are not valid, I just really don't see why one would call the iPad development stagnant but not the iPhone development when they generally get the same features and improvements (with the iPad just being a year later on some like the TouchID).
 
The iPad Mini is more than twice the real estate of the 6 Plus.
And $350 cheaper than the iPhone 6+ (with mainly just the phone missing, though the camera is also of lower quality and at the moment no TouchID yet).
 
Uhhhh, they would be able to ship more with reduced packaging than with making the ipad .01 millimeter thinner.

Please tell me you were trolling

i wasn't. was the packaged box for the iphone6 thinner then the previous model by only .01mm, I don't know that, do you? sounds like an exaggeration to me. not even sure where they put them in their final packaging to be honest.
 
People still think they can confirm Apple's future plans. I still don't understand why people are incorrectly thinking this. Only Apple can conform Apple's plans.

But others keep doing this year in year out. I don't know if it's ignorance, pure stupidity or just egotism.
 
I am not saying that all the arguments against the iPad are not valid, I just really don't see why one would call the iPad development stagnant but not the iPhone development

All of Apple is stagnant; the main difference, actually, is that carriers help people update their iPhones but not their iPads. If the carriers' subsidies didn't help, we would have seen drops in iPhone sales (before the iPhone 6) just as we have seen drops in iPad sales.
 
Next year iOS and MacOS X will converge.

Apple has said repeatedly this isn't going to happen. What do you think the Mac Pro is going to run a touch based OS?

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iPad air at home. iPhone plus on the go.

Home = iPad air

not at home = iphone plus

That's the scenario. Why would I want to couch surf and read on a 5.5 inch screen, when I can use the much much bigger iPad screen instead. And now with calling enabled on iPads (when on same wifi network as your iphone), I can make and receive calls on the couch if my iPhone is not near me. So yes, there is a case for both devices still.

MBP or MBA are much better browsing machines, you can have as many tabs as you want without reloading. I too don't really see the point in iPads.

Also, if I pay for a phone contract no way in hell am I not going to use it while at home.
 
Widescreen
Front facing stereo speakers
LARGER
better rear camera with flash

None of which will happen

Fundamentally it's not changed from the day the 1st iPad was launched.
They had an idea, and they've not had any more since.

Guess Apple just sit there all smug thinking they got it perfect on day one, so no need to change it ever :(

And that's without mentioning again they just took the iPhone user interface and made it BIGGER, and did almost nothing else. 3.5" screen to 10" screen with almost no change, and STILL to this day it's no better.

Basically a 10" mobile phone.

Apple are you listening. It's could be so much more if only you gave a crap about it!

I hear you, dude.
Larger isn't really innovating - hell, underwear comes in different sizes.

I don't care about the camera at all as I don't ever take pics with my ipad, but I'm sure a lot of people do. Although I find it strange as a commercial photographer.

I agree about the speakers, I bet they'll do something like that down the line as they can't just sell spec bumps forever. I don't think they believe they got it right day one, it's probably more along the lines of planning the roadmap. Think about cars - every 4-5 years they have a pretty noticeable body change, and years in between are often slight tweaks of interiors and headlights etc. Seems like the same situation. I hope they make a giant iPad with all the bells and whistles you want, homie. :D
 
Uhhhh, they would be able to ship more with reduced packaging than with making the ipad .01 millimeter thinner.

Please tell me you were trolling

Uhhhhh, they do that already...
Unless you haven't bought any or seen any retail packaging of Apple products in the last ten years, I'm sure you've noticed that they've been shooting for more and more minimal packaging for YEARS. I'm pretty sure it was even MR a few years back that ran an article quantifying EXACTLY what the op was saying; that in a nutshell, even a 3% decrease in volume, when shipping tens of millions of units, makes a significant difference in deployment speed & cost.
So....
Please tell me that upon further reflection you feel foolish for accusing someone for trolling when they came up with an insightful and accurate post.
 
Uhhhhh, they do that already...
Unless you haven't bought any or seen any retail packaging of Apple products in the last ten years, I'm sure you've noticed that they've been shooting for more and more minimal packaging for YEARS. I'm pretty sure it was even MR a few years back that ran an article quantifying EXACTLY what the op was saying; that in a nutshell, even a 3% decrease in volume, when shipping tens of millions of units, makes a significant difference in deployment speed & cost.
So....
i know they have decreased packaging. That was my whole point. That packaging has 10000 times more to do with volume shipping efficiency, than a .01MM slimmer product does.
Please tell me that upon further reflection you feel foolish for accusing someone for trolling when they came up with an insightful and accurate post.
Again, I am questioning the notion that a .01MM thinner product is a big shipping savings, compared to reducing the gaudy packaging.
 
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