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Do you really think they do no real world testing?

Let me help you. They do EXTENSIVE real world testing. I know a person that works at AT&T who tests new devices and had the iPhone XS months before release under NDA to perform thorough testing.

When you sell as many from as Apple in as many locations, you simply can’t test every scenario. These phones get to every corner of the world, small and large cities.

This will be resolved.
That was half sarcastic and half statement.
And with your statement it would be obvious then that Apple knew had problems and released anyway.
 
5Ghz wifi is terrible.
It's fast after a disconnect and connect but during the day slower an slower.

A new disconnect and connect fixes the issue temporary

I agree I got my Max on the morning of the 14th in New Zealand for the first couple of days the 5 gig wifi wouldn't connect. Only after router restart and airplane mode toggle would it connect. Now I have to toggle between 2.4Gig and 5 for 5 gig to work. Without it, I get an apparent connection but the warning there is no Internet connection.

If I remain on 2.4gig no issue. My "old" X has no issues at all.
 
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Even here in Italy, I returned my iPhone XS this Saturday after a week of use. Beautiful device but, as it is still called "phone", it must receive calls...
Same here. It fails at being a Phone.

And can anyone explain why the giant display button on the right acts as an end call button argh.

Apples iPhone was literally the best mobile device.
Up until 2017
Android Hardware and Software just surpass it.
All Apple can offer are Gimmics

FaceID
Animojiis
Force Touch
LivePhotos

I like real Features.

High quality Bluetooth Audio Codec support aptXHD LDAC
Keyboards that have Haptic feedback
3.5mm Jack
Split screen multitasking.
Fast charging included
Gorilla Glass 5 and 6
Strong Qualcomm LTE Radios
 
It's a poor implementation for sure. My opinion is that in their rush to get away from Qualcomm they overlooked antenna design issues, and the intel modem ins't up to the job yet, so the two things combined are resulting a much more noticeable issue than they expected. It's a shame.

Okay wait. If it’s a design flaw all phones are affected. Right. All the phones components and software and programming is the same. Right that’s the Apple advantage they control all aspects of the device. How could an antenna defect not be discovered in test? How could some test show it performing as designed?
 
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Okay wait. If it’s a design flaw all phones are affected. Right. All the phones components and software and programming is the same. Right that’s the Apple advantage they control all aspects of the device. How could an antenna defect not be discovered in test? How could some test show it performing as designed?
We don’t know if passed. In a lab, probably. Real world, probably not.
 
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This is just....sad ...

Note 9 on the left, XS on the right
Service : TMobile
 
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This is just....sad ...

Note 9 on the left, XS on the right
Service : TMobile
There are posts on Reddit with similar issues across all 4 major carriers, and the thread on Apples own forums now has more pages than chargate did.
Apple is deleting more posts about LTE issues when people post db gain screenshots like these.
Chargegate was an easy fix
LTE issues will not be.
I'm taking screenshots and documenting my Signal readings from the Service menu.
 
So for the people that continue to have issues with cellular connectivity, are you returning your phones? Just curious - at this point with no response from Apple, why anyone would continue with a phone that just doesn’t work properly?
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Okay wait. If it’s a design flaw all phones are affected. Right. All the phones components and software and programming is the same. Right that’s the Apple advantage they control all aspects of the device. How could an antenna defect not be discovered in test? How could some test show it performing as designed?
It makes no sense, especially for the ones that have/had the poor reception.

Has anyone returned and got a replacement phone that works correctly?
 
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There are posts on Reddit with similar issues across all 4 major carriers, and the thread on Apples own forums now has more pages than chargate did.
Apple is deleting more posts about LTE issues when people post db gain screenshots like these.
Are you serious? They are deleting posts showing their product in a poor light?
 
I'm getting it in the UK on the O2 network.

Me too on Vodafone UK, not sure how to report to Apple other than taking back to a store for a new phone, but how are these selected people chosen to run tests? How does Apple know they're having issues?
 
Me too on Vodafone UK, not sure how to report to Apple other than taking back to a store for a new phone, but how are these selected people chosen to run tests? How does Apple know they're having issues?
Is the problem really one-off bad phones? The question is, has anyone returned and now have a replacement phone that works? I did a return with mine, but would love to get a new one. If these are just a few phones with problems, then a new one would have a better chance of success, right? However, if the hardware design is flawed, then it’s likely I would get another that doesn’t work.

I’m in central NH with a mix of fringe and good LTE service on ATT.
 
Okay wait. If it’s a design flaw all phones are affected. Right. All the phones components and software and programming is the same. Right that’s the Apple advantage they control all aspects of the device. How could an antenna defect not be discovered in test? How could some test show it performing as designed?

Some of it could be software related, band preference etc.. but if the antenna really are only one at a time that seems like a design flaw. I know they do real world testing but the world is a big place with tons of variables, and conditions change too. If it's cloudy here in Orlando I get better reception than on sunny days. And until recently, during the holidays when the tourist hordes arrive, my service was unusable. I used to get NYE text messages 3 days later. My point is they made a decision years ago to use cheaper Intel modems with documented weaknesses and their 4x4 MIMO isn't working properly either so those things combined into more real world problems than they should consider tolerable.
 
Some of it could be software related, band preference etc.. but if the antenna really are only one at a time that seems like a design flaw. I know they do real world testing but the world is a big place with tons of variables, and conditions change too. If it's cloudy here in Orlando I get better reception than on sunny days. And until recently, during the holidays when the tourist hordes arrive, my service was unusable. I used to get NYE text messages 3 days later. My point is they made a decision years ago to use cheaper Intel modems with documented weaknesses and their 4x4 MIMO isn't working properly either so those things combined into more real world problems than they should consider tolerable.
Antenna are not one at a time. MIMO is multiple antennae at a time. That’s the whole point of diversity reception.
 
Yes. It’s based on the experience of one person. I tried it only because an Apple tech support guy convinced me to. Things got better for a few hours, then the same problems with LTE and WiFi returned.

Wiping your device and setting it up as a new iPhone (rather than restoring from a backup) is very time-consuming and does not fix the problems.
 
Yes. It’s based on the experience of one person. I tried it only because an Apple tech support guy convinced me to. Things got better for a few hours, then the same problems with LTE and WiFi returned.

Wiping your device and setting it up as a new iPhone (rather than restoring from a backup) is very time-consuming and does not fix the problems.

Thanks for letting us know.
 
Yes. It’s based on the experience of one person. I tried it only because an Apple tech support guy convinced me to. Things got better for a few hours, then the same problems with LTE and WiFi returned.

Wiping your device and setting it up as a new iPhone (rather than restoring from a backup) is very time-consuming and does not fix the problems.

The Genius did a restore as new at the Apple store with my Max and it did not fix the cellular connectivity problem.
 
I know thats why I said Apple's implementation isn't right. Because according to testing and FCC docs, it's only using one at a time.

https://www.wiwavelength.com/2018/09/iphone-xs-and-xs-max-mostly-fail-to.html?m=1
That’s clearly not true, because many tests show double the throughput of 2x2 phones. The issue is negotiation of tower connections, not the use of antenna.

You are also reading this link wrong. It’s talking about TRANSMISSION, not reception. People aren’t complaining about transmission. And transmission would typically use only one antenna in a device this small, as long as the device can dynamically choose the antenna.
 
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