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So ...

Is Apple so confident that they will just push the fix in the next release?

or

Will Apple push another Beta to validate the fix?

Having never had issues with an iOS device until now, your guess is as good as mine.
 
I am so very happy for all you pioneers out there, taking arrows as you blow through the bugs, making noise and otherwise helping Engineering fix them. It's a hell of a good service.

By January it'll be safe for me to think about a new iPhone.

I just started reading through this thread, because I made the decision to upgrade my X today. I think I may now hold off until January or February 2019.
 
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I just started reading through this thread, because I made the decision to upgrade my X today. I think I may now hold off until January or February 2019.
It would be a lot safer to wait until the problems are resolved. I value my time and don't want to be stuck on the phone with Apple Support and running back and forth to the Apple Store. The problems are ridiculous.

See the following thread for additional information (156 pages):

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...max-even-worse-than-iphone-x.2140854/page-156
 
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I just started reading through this thread, because I made the decision to upgrade my X today. I think I may now hold off until January or February 2019.

I don't blame you for waiting a few months longer. From now on, I'll be waiting ~90-days for on a new phone purchase; I'd hope by then the new phone's issues are resolved. Though I didn't upgrade to my XS the moment it was released, I waited until October 16th. Other than the LTE/Cellular performance, it's a fine device. But I wish I held onto my 6S a few months longer.
 
We bought 2 iPhone XS Max and picked the up on the first day of sales. We are on T-Mobile and have seen better reception than my iPhone X and my wife’s 6s Plus.

We’ve had zero problems with either of our new iPhones. I’m running (and have been since day 1) the latest Developer Betas while my wife’s iPhone is running only the public releases.
 
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It would be a lot safer to wait until the problems are resolved. I value my time and don't want to be stuck on the phone with Apple Support and running back and forth to the Apple Store. The problems are ridiculous.

See the following thread for additional information (156 pages):

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...max-even-worse-than-iphone-x.2140854/page-156

I’m getting ready to start reading through this thread. Too many people are having LTE/WiFi issues for me to even consider upgrading now. I might as well wait until next year’s iPhone but wait an additional 3 months.

I don't blame you for waiting a few months longer. From now on, I'll be waiting ~90-days for on a new phone purchase; I'd hope by then the new phone's issues are resolved. Though I didn't upgrade to my XS the moment it was released, I waited until October 16th. Other than the LTE/Cellular performance, it's a fine device. But I wish I held onto my 6S a few months longer.

Yes I didn’t realize the issue was this serious until I finished reading through the thread. I definitely don’t have the energy and time to deal with this. I’ll be waiting until next year’s iPhone release but wait an additional 3 months to upgrade.
 
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I’m getting ready to start reading through this thread. Too many people are having LTE/WiFi issues for me to even consider upgrading now. I might as well wait until next year’s iPhone but wait an additional 3 months.
It's pointless. Just get one if you want it and if you have issues, take it back.

All this anecdotal data means nothing. If it were a huge issue, Apple wouldn't be able to stop the tsunami. It's clear some are impacted, but the overall number must be quite small because there are literally no stories on it besides a few forum posts.

Remember, probably 40-50M of the XS devices have now probably been sold.
 
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It's pointless. Just get one if you want it and if you have issues, take it back.

All this anecdotal data means nothing. If it were a huge issue, Apple wouldn't be able to stop the tsunami. It's clear some are impacted, but the overall number must be quite small because there are literally no stories on it besides a few forum posts.

Remember, probably 40-50M of the XS devices have now probably been sold.
"no stories on it besides a few forum posts."

There's more... spend 5 seconds googling the issue and you'll see there are more than just "a few forum posts".

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8551252
https://www.macobserver.com/news/iphone-xs-lte-issue/
https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/24/iphone-xs-wifi-lte-performance/
http://macdailynews.com/2018/10/03/...es-affecting-some-iphone-xs-and-xs-max-units/
https://pocketnow.com/iphone-xs-poor-wi-fi-and-lte-connection
https://appletoolbox.com/2018/10/how-to-fix-wi-fi-lte-connectivity-problems-on-iphone-xs-and-xs-max/
https://bgr.com/2018/09/26/iphone-xs-max-issues-how-to-fix-wifi-cellular-reception/
https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/10/ios-12-0-1-iphone-xs-lte-issues-no-fix/
 
Yeah, like I said...those are still isolated cases. Of course you find them if you Google the phrase.

My point is that it’s only impacting a small portion because if it were a hardware or design issue, you wouldn’t need to Google it to know it’s happening on a wide scale.

Most of what you posted is already 2 months old. Find 2 stories printed in the last week on it.
 
Released two months ago with no fix so unlikely correctable via software. Probably going through certification of new hardware fix revision for silent RMA replacement sometime early next year.
 
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^^^ software could fix it and adjust how the antennas work with also a carrier update. Think about all the issues puma 6 intel chips had in cable modems . They pretty much fully fixed that with software
 
Released two months ago with no fix so unlikely correctable via software. Probably going through certification of new hardware fix revision for silent RMA replacement sometime early next year.
Again, if every phone had this issue, it would b a tsunami of complaints, daily...never stopping. This still falls under the s small amount impacted category.
 
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I think people need to stop assuming it’s hardware related . Just because you swap a phone out and it still does it means nothing . Let me guess both phones were still on 12.1 and the new phone had the same carrier as the old phone ( Aka a non new version ) so that explains that . Nuff said do some research guys doubtful to be hardware
 
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I've been following this thread (and a few others on macrumors forums) since the beginning, as I had one of the affected devices.

People experiencing issues have described a variety of connectivity issues, e.g. voice calls dropped when not close to a tower, LTE up/down speeds slow to a crawl when not close to a tower, wifi dropped or slow wifi speeds when not near the router, etc.

There are surely multiple causes of these various problems. And therefore, any one fix (like a software update) will fix some people's issues but not others. That doesn't mean "Apple has failed to fix the problem." It means "Apple has fixed some people's problem but not others."

It is possible that some of the issues are hardware related and cannot be fixed by a software patch. But so far, iOS updates have indeed fixed some people's issues, not everyone's, but some people's. Device replacements have fixed some people's issues - not everyone's, but some people's.

As a result, the number of people with connectivity issues seems to be dwindling a bit. Of course, if you're one of the people whose connectivity problems remain as bad as ever, none of this does you any good and all of your frustration and anger is totally understandable and warranted.
 
Picked up an XS on Black Friday. Seemed to be working great. I thought I'd gotten lucky and received one that didn't have the problems.

...until yesterday. And today. My LTE has disappeared 3 times since last night. The only way to fix it has been to put it in airplane mode, and then switch it out.

I'm hopeful that that impending software update fix that the Apple rep told the user about some posts back takes care of it. But, in the meantime, I'm going to call Apple support tomorrow, as well as take it into the Apple Store this weekend, just so that I'm on record of having had the issue before the return policy expires.

Aside from that, I'm loving the phone. Upgraded from a 7. But it's unacceptable to have the glitchy LTE.
 
When should 12.1.1 be out of beta? It seems like weeks since it should have been out and I want to get my cellular/LTE fixed. It is much weaker than even my previous Verizon 6 was. I actually think it's an inferior Intel modem vs the Qualcomm modems that were previously used, but others have reported that the software has helped to some extent
 
When should 12.1.1 be out of beta? It seems like weeks since it should have been out and I want to get my cellular/LTE fixed. It is much weaker than even my previous Verizon 6 was. I actually think it's an inferior Intel modem vs the Qualcomm modems that were previously used, but others have reported that the software has helped to some extent
Based on the current 12.1.1 beta, it's not fixed yet.
My XS still can't hold onto an LTE signal where all my other devices can.
 
I think people need to stop assuming it’s hardware related . Just because you swap a phone out and it still does it means nothing . Let me guess both phones were still on 12.1 and the new phone had the same carrier as the old phone ( Aka a non new version ) so that explains that . Nuff said do some research guys doubtful to be hardware
I’m in contact with very very very high ups at Apple. I don’t want to say more. But let me tell you it very likely is a hardware issue.
I’m on my 5th replacement.
 
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Just cause you’ve had 5 replacements means nothing . Apple is still ironing out modem firmware updates and carrier versions through beta ios’s . Can’t rule that it’s just hardware yet ..
 
Just cause you’ve had 5 replacements means nothing . Apple is still ironing out modem firmware updates and carrier versions through beta ios’s . Can’t rule that it’s just hardware yet ..

As I said I’ve been in contact with very high ups at Apple and it most likely is a hardware issue.
Clearly this being a public forum you have a multitude of people saying whatever they want and though you may or may not believe me that’s the information presented to me.
I’m still in communication with them and nothing is final yet. But it sure as hell looks like that.
 
As I said I’ve been in contact with very high ups at Apple and it most likely is a hardware issue.
Clearly this being a public forum you have a multitude of people saying whatever they want and though you may or may not believe me that’s the information presented to me.
I’m still in communication with them and nothing is final yet. But it sure as hell looks like that.
So when are they going to give up and put the superior Qualcomm modems back in the phones?
 
Usual suspects proclaiming it a hardware issue.

I guarantee this will be fixed with software. If this were a hardware issue, this would be WAYYY more prevalent and way more reports around the world.

Also, you can change Antenna behavior with software. It was done on the iPhone 7.

could you pls tell what was the issue with iphone 7 and how they fixed it? I got one now and connection is terrible. All calls were dropped or broken up today.... I dont know if this is the problem of the phone, my carrier or what else... It is running on ios 12.0. What do you think and what should I do?

I just want a working iphone but seems like it is too much to ask these days. the I also own XR has the same field test data
 
I was hoping for a software update today. Last weekend, I was told by Apple that the next update or the one after would resolve the issue. They also said, they were "sending a gift" for my troubles. Whatever that means...
 
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As I said I’ve been in contact with very high ups at Apple and it most likely is a hardware issue.
Clearly this being a public forum you have a multitude of people saying whatever they want and though you may or may not believe me that’s the information presented to me.
I’m still in communication with them and nothing is final yet. But it sure as hell looks like that.

Will they issue a recall at some point and have a potential hardware fix??
 
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