I agree and if I kept my 3G, I would have switched back to the old OS until OS4 has better performance. The 3G ran great as it was.
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Apple Looking Into Reports of Problems With iOS 4 on iPhone 3G
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I agree and if I kept my 3G, I would have switched back to the old OS until OS4 has better performance. The 3G ran great as it was.
Yeah, I guess I get that. And this has been part of my struggle with this. I'm generally an early adopter of most technology, and I've always had a rather realistic view of placing a new OS on older hardware. The thing is, this is VERY common with PCs, and in my view Apple has always done a better job of ensuring the better experience by pushing both hardware and software forward. In this case however, I think they overshot the ability of the 3G to handle the new OS, and shouldn't have released it.
There seems to be this prevailing assumption from folks that all of us expressing frustration on this board are naive and unreasonable. Certainly there are some cases of that. I for one feel I'm pretty reasonable about expectations here, and that Apple let us get into something we shouldn't have had to. Unwinding from OS4 is pretty easy, I've already done it, but for the novice, it's not, and the process is distinctly un-Apple in its difficulty for the novice.
These issues are not about not adopting the new thing, i was going to do it anyway. I just don't like being forced.
End rant...
Well, they aren't running. They do not consume any processor cycles (unless they do audio, GPS, VoIP or a time-limited task-completion). They just remain in memory (as do apps to a certain extent in OS X on your Mac as well).
It is the task of the OS to remove them from memory before memory scarcity affects performances. Either some apps are very liberal in their audio or task completion usage or the OS is not smart enough to remove them from memory quickly enough.
I guess it is mostly the latter (and hoping the OS gets better at this).
+1 The amount of times ive had to restore because it's fast to start with but after a few days use it is unusable so another restore needs to be done.
Plus battery life has dropped massively. Not happy!
3Gs battery drains too
As a fanboy...
I put the overheating down to using my iPhone in an unconditioned 32C room.
I put the battery drain down to turning the backlight on, I usually use minimal brightness to save batteries.
I blamed myself for not efficiently using multitasking for minor lagging issues.
I'm still a believer so will invest in AAPL instead of a turbo iMAC & spend my spare change on gold instead of an iPad+iPHone4 !!
As a fanboy...
I put the overheating down to using my iPhone in an unconditioned 32C room.
I put the battery drain down to turning the backlight on, I usually use minimal brightness to save batteries.
I blamed myself for not efficiently using multitasking for minor lagging issues.
I'm still a believer so will invest in AAPL instead of a turbo iMAC & spend my spare change on gold instead of an iPad+iPHone4 !!
Bitch, bitch, bitch
This is what long time mac user was afraid of... whiners who wanted to use mac to be cool, yet don't want to ever upgrade and bitch about everything. Boy I missed the good old day when we were a small group of believers.
This is what long time mac user was afraid of... whiners who wanted to use mac to be cool, yet don't want to ever upgrade and bitch about everything. Boy I missed the good old day when we were a small group of believers.
Experienced slowness
Funny vid!
Yeah. I tried iOS 4.0.1 and downgraded back to 3.1.3 after a couple days of experimentation. I tested my 3G with multitasking on and off and with new wallpaper feature on and off. Turning off the extra features did help but not enough. Slowness was very noticeable. BTW... compared to the 3GS and iPhone 4, the 3G speed difference is fairly noticeable. So if you happened to be toying with one of those your 3G experience will seem amplified.
Funny vid!
Yeah. I tried iOS 4.0.1 and downgraded back to 3.1.3 after a couple days of experimentation. I tested my 3G with multitasking on and off and with new wallpaper feature on and off. Turning off the extra features did help but not enough. Slowness was very noticeable. BTW... compared to the 3GS and iPhone 4, the 3G speed difference is fairly noticeable. So if you happened to be toying with one of those your 3G experience will seem amplified.
Overheating -hung process-lost Wifi
After upgrading, everything seemed to run about 1/2 speed. When I tried up upgrade one of my bigger apps, about 1/2 way through it stalled. I noticed the phone was hot to the touch- restarted and found the application was still stalled, but now no longer have wifi - everything but wi-fi works, but still a lot slower than before the upgrade. HELP
After upgrading, everything seemed to run about 1/2 speed. When I tried up upgrade one of my bigger apps, about 1/2 way through it stalled. I noticed the phone was hot to the touch- restarted and found the application was still stalled, but now no longer have wifi - everything but wi-fi works, but still a lot slower than before the upgrade. HELP
Same problem but I fixed it!
I had the same problem for a week. I was sooo frustrated I couldn't take it anymore. So I bought the iPhone 4. It's a shame that was the only solution I could find... The 3G with iOS4 was completely useless, and since it was used for business, I was losing money by the hour. I feel bad for people who don't want to fork over money for a new phone. I do have faith that they will fix the issue.
I had the same problem for a week. I was sooo frustrated I couldn't take it anymore. So I bought the iPhone 4.
It's a shame that was the only solution I could find... The 3G with iOS4 was completely useless, and since it was used for business, I was losing money by the hour. I feel bad for people who don't want to fork over money for a new phone. I do have faith that they will fix the issue. I share your sentiments! My 3G is virtually useless now out in the "real world". *sigh*
That's just it: The iPhone 3G was released in July of 2008. Two years. That's the standard length of the contract that you sign with AT&T for service! Surely it's not out of line to expect a device to be fully supported for as long as you are required to continue to pay for its use.
My pre iOS4 3G was jailbroken and worked great, had access to folders, multitasking etc, but thought I would give iOS4 a try anyway.
Unusable! Phone turned in a lazy dog, so slow and my battery which used to last me 3-4 days average usage suddenly needed charging daily!
Rolled it back to 3.1.3 last week, jailbroke it to get folders, multitasking etc and its all good again.
BS update by Apple that.
Unusable! Phone turned in a lazy dog, so slow and my battery which used to last me 3-4 days average usage suddenly needed charging daily!
Rolled it back to 3.1.3 last week, jailbroke it to get folders, multitasking etc and its all good again.
BS update by Apple that.
My iPhone 3G with iOS4 is also running very slow. But different from others, it was already really, really slow with OS3. So slow you almost never could type and see the keyboard respond, and I couldn't answer most of the calls because the iPhone started lagging while being called. And yes I tried resetting / restarting.
iOS4 made it better for me, most of the time i can type normally, and I now can respond to calls. But it's still at least as slow as in the parody video.
iOS4 made it better for me, most of the time i can type normally, and I now can respond to calls. But it's still at least as slow as in the parody video.
yeah, ios 4 has really slowed my 3G down to a crawl. I've been considering trying to downgrade to 3 it's so bad. The battery life doesn't seem much different though.
The weird thing is that my ipod touch 2nd generation hasn't slowed down at all since going to ios 4, but the battery life has gone way down. I can charge it to 100% in the morning and not use it at all that day and then the next day it has like 10% left (if that).
so i don't know what the deal is since my 3G is excruciatingly slow now and my touch 2nd generation gets no battery life. Weird stuff ios 4 is doing.
The weird thing is that my ipod touch 2nd generation hasn't slowed down at all since going to ios 4, but the battery life has gone way down. I can charge it to 100% in the morning and not use it at all that day and then the next day it has like 10% left (if that).
so i don't know what the deal is since my 3G is excruciatingly slow now and my touch 2nd generation gets no battery life. Weird stuff ios 4 is doing.
I’m glad to see this subject come to light. Clearly, after installing the iOS4 my iPhone G3 is remarkably slow and in many instances, it simply locks up. Using GPS is now virtually worthless. Apple should have not purported any support or permitted upgrade downloads to the 3G model.
This is a disturbing trend with Apple with misrepresentation of products and specifically, the iOS4 usability on the 3G. Sure, we were told of unsupported features, but the TRUTH is, it slows the performance to an unusable state. I really didn’t want to purchase a new until iPhone-4, but now I may have to. My preference was to wait until they figured out how to produce the white version.
BOTTOM LINE: In my opinion, Steve Jobs and Apple are no longer acting in good faith, and after 26-years as an Apple consumer I’m now looking for a more honest company with products that actually work as promised.
Regards,
Dan
This is a disturbing trend with Apple with misrepresentation of products and specifically, the iOS4 usability on the 3G. Sure, we were told of unsupported features, but the TRUTH is, it slows the performance to an unusable state. I really didn’t want to purchase a new until iPhone-4, but now I may have to. My preference was to wait until they figured out how to produce the white version.
BOTTOM LINE: In my opinion, Steve Jobs and Apple are no longer acting in good faith, and after 26-years as an Apple consumer I’m now looking for a more honest company with products that actually work as promised.
Regards,
Dan
Guys, try it.
"Turn off Spotlight Search for a bigger, long term boost: turn off Spotlight search indexing. From Settings/ General/ Home Button/ Spotlight search, turn search indexing off for as many items as possible. This reduces the overall workload of the system, so it appears to give an overall performance boost that is significant."
It helps so much. Was mentioned early in the thread yet one person tried it. Why is nobody interested in this? I did it for all my items as I never use the feature, and it def helps ALOT!
"Turn off Spotlight Search for a bigger, long term boost: turn off Spotlight search indexing. From Settings/ General/ Home Button/ Spotlight search, turn search indexing off for as many items as possible. This reduces the overall workload of the system, so it appears to give an overall performance boost that is significant."
It helps so much. Was mentioned early in the thread yet one person tried it. Why is nobody interested in this?
I did it for all my items as I never use the feature, and it def helps ALOT!
Also see a problem
My Dad has a 3G and also noticed a big slowdown after upgrading to OS4. He is always cursing at his phone now.
My Dad has a 3G and also noticed a big slowdown after upgrading to OS4. He is always cursing at his phone now.
Meh... iOS 4 has made my 3G slower. My solution is to reboot the sucker when it gets slow. Its much more responsive after the reboot. I suspect that some of the background APIs that aren't supposed to work on the 3G are in fact doing stuff and taking CPU away from the foreground app.
Same here... Pretty slow, especially the iPod, that takes long!!! SMS is terrible as well...
But the transition between icons in the home screen seems to be improved. Swiping right or left at the SpringBoard is nicer and smoother in iOS 4.0+. It's immediate instead of a nice calculation how fast your finger swipes and at that speed the app icons move as well... Too bad for app folders...
But the transition between icons in the home screen seems to be improved. Swiping right or left at the SpringBoard is nicer and smoother in iOS 4.0+. It's immediate instead of a nice calculation how fast your finger swipes and at that speed the app icons move as well... Too bad for app folders...
Actually quite a few of them are running in the background. If they didn't how would my Skype app receive calls when I'm sitting in another Application, etc. I think that with the "iOS 4" release a lot of developers we're like we have to make our app able to do "cool" things now, so let's do it. And actually if I quit an app on my Mac, it actually free's the memory, it no longer shows up in the process list, etc. However on the iPhone I just checked the process list of my iPhone (iStat will show you it), and there's quite a few of my app's still running there in the background (like Bejeweled for example (clearly an app that doesn't need to keep running in the background), and yes it is indeed the operating system's place to swap the app out of memory if it's not in use (but still running which is my point), which your Mac will do as well, however if your at a point where your Mac is swapping frequently, it's time to invest in more RAM, as guess what, swapping back from disk is SLOW, and we don't have that ability on an iPhone short of upgrading to the new iPhone 4 (which I'm quite confident I can get to slow down as well if I was to install and launch enough apps)).
I'm not lying when I say I can fix it, simply closing all the apps running in the background restores the speed of my phone back immediately. But within a few hours of me using it, they'll all be back sitting in ram slowing my phone down.
As Angel Eyes (played by Lee Van Cleef) said in "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly," "I wish you luck."