Maybe more market available, but also not nearly as mark up on a box. Apple wants to make money... and the way they have been doing that so far is by selling cheap hardware at a high price!
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Apple Looking to Launch Siri-Enabled Television Set by 2013
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Maybe more market available, but also not nearly as mark up on a box. Apple wants to make money... and the way they have been doing that so far is by selling cheap hardware at a high price!
yeah. I kno it's just a mockup, but even in 2011, no high-end TV has a huge bezel like that! glad this guy doesn't actually work for Apple
I had not realised that there so many people out there with an urge to give orders to their television. Just remember this is the same site that brought us the iPhone5 (and its mock-up). If you really want to shell out $2000 to Apple go get yourself a 27inch iMac. At least it will be useful.
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Why not just give the current "Remote" app that controls AppleTV and/or the ATV itself Siri integration? Not sure why this needs a whole TV built around it...
Why not just give the current "Remote" app that controls AppleTV and/or the ATV itself Siri integration? Not sure why this needs a whole TV built around it...
Meaning these people will never buy a TV again? A little short sighted don't you think? (DisplaySearch predicts 250million TV's will be sold this year globally alone http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/global_tv_replacement_study.asp1)
Do people buy MacBooks that start at $1100 when you can buy an HP laptop for $400?
Of course they wouldn't. Did I replace my $6000 MacPro the second a new one came out? Hell no. 6 years and going strong...
How does Siri currently differentiate from you talking on the phone? Oh right, you press a button.
Try again, I just ripped all of your arguments a new one.
Actually you could probably leave out the NBC part and it would still figure it out. Siri saves seconds on an iPhone, but on a DVR? Having to scroll thru 1000+ channels, then scroll left till I finally get to the time & day I want? Because the Time Warner Cable search is COMPLETELY USELESS? This actually sounds great, and it sounds like it might be more useful than Siri on the iPhone.
I am not an idiot, so I know that wasn't directed towards me. But, I don't remember anyone saying Apple was perfect. So, just because someone disagrees with YOU, you call them a fanboy? That's an excellent way to end a potentially valuable discussion. Congrats. People use the "fanboy" argument when they have run out of ways to back their opinion, as if opinions needed backing in the first place.
Edit: I also love how you emphasis
Right after you say
So people who think the Apple TV is a good idea.... are they haters, or fanboys? I'm confused. Maybe I am an idiot after all.
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My wife argues with the TV news anchors as it is. Would Siri support her? Would the Settings allow us to choose Conservative or Centrist or would it just be stuck on Liberal?
I kept my last TV for 15 years and will do the same for the great 47 inch LG I have now. Enable an AppleTV puck and I would go with this.
When Steve said he'd cracked the TV market, I think he was referring to content distribution and not a physical TV set. The current ones on the market don't suck, but the distribution model sure does. Per channel subscription through iTunes would be great if the transfer rates were fast enough to watch in real time.
Dale
EDIT Are we just starting to get a taste of a voice controlled world? Siri could control everything in my home ala Star Trek.
I kept my last TV for 15 years and will do the same for the great 47 inch LG I have now. Enable an AppleTV puck and I would go with this.
When Steve said he'd cracked the TV market, I think he was referring to content distribution and not a physical TV set. The current ones on the market don't suck, but the distribution model sure does. Per channel subscription through iTunes would be great if the transfer rates were fast enough to watch in real time.
Dale
EDIT Are we just starting to get a taste of a voice controlled world? Siri could control everything in my home ala Star Trek.
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Hello my future HDTV.
When the day comes for me to buy me own house and a TV I will so buy the Apple TV. Well this would happen to me in like 2025 but the future for Apple is unexpected. I just can't what Apple be like if they do release their own HDTV sets.
When the day comes for me to buy me own house and a TV I will so buy the Apple TV. Well this would happen to me in like 2025 but the future for Apple is unexpected. I just can't what Apple be like if they do release their own HDTV sets.
Do you people actually think that Steve Jobs cracking the code to fix the broken television industry consists only of talking to your TV to change channels? Obviously, there is something huge going on that people don't have any clue about. More likely is that Apple is trying to negotiate a way to do a purely consumption based model like what exists today with the iTunes store.
Apple revolutionized the music industry, not just because they made a better mp3 player, but because they totally changed the model from buying albums to buying songs. I'm not going to pretend that I know what Apple is going to do with the Apple TV, but I'm sure that it's a hell of a lot more than making a Thunderbolt display with a TV tuner and Siri. That's why so many here are scratching their heads about this. They have no idea what is really coming.
Apple revolutionized the music industry, not just because they made a better mp3 player, but because they totally changed the model from buying albums to buying songs. I'm not going to pretend that I know what Apple is going to do with the Apple TV, but I'm sure that it's a hell of a lot more than making a Thunderbolt display with a TV tuner and Siri. That's why so many here are scratching their heads about this. They have no idea what is really coming.
If they do this, I hope that they make the 'smarts' element of the TV user-replaceable. Perhaps a slot loaded Apple TV unit of some sort? TV's are not the type of thing I'd like to want to upgrade every year because a new CPU is available for the Apple TV unit. Id like to have the fastest tech, but without having to replace the entire TV. I guess it would be like a teeny headless mac. LOL.
Why I think this 'Apple TV' won't come to fruition;
- Jobs may have passed, but he was totally against Blu-ray as a format, and wanted to reduce a users reliance on physical media formats. So if Apple are to continue pushing physical media out of their future product horizon/eco-system, then allowing users to plug machines such as Blu-ray players into their 'TV' product is not the way to go. This of course only presumes that the product would allow various HDMI inputs... If it didn't, and Apple were stubborn enough to rely on services such as iCloud and new on-demand features, then not many families are going to catch on...
- The manufacturing costs would render the profit margins too slim if they want to compete in the market. If they continue with their current design ethos, then this 'TV' would be a unibody design (which itself already bumped up the price of their notebooks and iMacs) with a high density display. The combination of both would make the product stupidly expensive. The TV may be 'hobbyist' product, you say like Apple TV? The difference is, Apple TV costs just £99.
- If you want to watch media through your existing TV with Apple features, then just get a Mac Mini. That has HDMI output, and using the Magic Trackpad from a couch/seat is good enough...
Don't get me wrong, I'd love Apple to prove me wrong and make this all work out, but from stand point it just seems all very unlikely. We know how much the 'Cinema Display' costs, and that itself is a product has gone from being a true quality display to something has heralds form over function. This could also be true for a 'TV' should it arrive...
- Jobs may have passed, but he was totally against Blu-ray as a format, and wanted to reduce a users reliance on physical media formats. So if Apple are to continue pushing physical media out of their future product horizon/eco-system, then allowing users to plug machines such as Blu-ray players into their 'TV' product is not the way to go. This of course only presumes that the product would allow various HDMI inputs... If it didn't, and Apple were stubborn enough to rely on services such as iCloud and new on-demand features, then not many families are going to catch on...
- The manufacturing costs would render the profit margins too slim if they want to compete in the market. If they continue with their current design ethos, then this 'TV' would be a unibody design (which itself already bumped up the price of their notebooks and iMacs) with a high density display. The combination of both would make the product stupidly expensive. The TV may be 'hobbyist' product, you say like Apple TV? The difference is, Apple TV costs just £99.
- If you want to watch media through your existing TV with Apple features, then just get a Mac Mini. That has HDMI output, and using the Magic Trackpad from a couch/seat is good enough...
Don't get me wrong, I'd love Apple to prove me wrong and make this all work out, but from stand point it just seems all very unlikely. We know how much the 'Cinema Display' costs, and that itself is a product has gone from being a true quality display to something has heralds form over function. This could also be true for a 'TV' should it arrive...
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My take on "Steve Jobs cracking the code..." comment is more relate to the content/distribution model we are currently enduring. With Apple creating huge iCloud facilities on SC and trying to make partnerships with networks and movie studios, I think he has something under his sleeve to change our current model that makes us pay lot of money for satellite/ cable providers each month for tons of content we don't want or care about.
This is where I think the revolution will come more than actually the TV set itself. ATV $99 box is a great tool to use once this new system takes place. If that resonates with the consumer, they will sell millions of these $99 boxes and have a much easier path to take control of the market than sell expensive TVs with Apple logo on it.
While they could at some point decide to brand a TV set, it is not the game changer imo.
This is where I think the revolution will come more than actually the TV set itself. ATV $99 box is a great tool to use once this new system takes place. If that resonates with the consumer, they will sell millions of these $99 boxes and have a much easier path to take control of the market than sell expensive TVs with Apple logo on it.
While they could at some point decide to brand a TV set, it is not the game changer imo.
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But Siri could be a wonderful porn-searching assistant, finding exactly what you like.
I wonder if Apple will add "double penetration" and "watersports" to Siri's keyword table....
One step I would see as critical would be iTunes matching for DVD and Blu-Ray media. The one reason I still haven't purchased an Apple TV box is that I have my PS3 for physical media and Netflix, my receiver has an iPhone dock and Pandora, and I have a cable box for television. What this set would need to do, is replace all that. Being able to tell Siri to "play the special features for A New Hope" would be great, and ultimately an example of one of the greatest ways it can simplify my viewing. Additionally, if there was a way they could get agreements with the cable company so all you have to do is plug a coax into it and have an iOS based interface for cable television would be fantastic. But I don't see that happening unless something revolutionary happens in the cable TV market.
I'm picturing the TV in Back to the Future 2 ...
I'm picturing the TV in Back to the Future 2 ...
Now, if the software is packaged in anTV, one could get the EXACT same software experience on any TV including the very same screen with someone else's brand on it. In exchange for the compromise of doing this with a little puck device attached to that TV, they probably save a lot of money, get to choose their own size, color, ports, type (LCD vs LED vs Plasma), etc.
Not sure if you read my post thoroughly. I completely agree with you on all points, which is why any breakthrough TV software WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE via separate box. Just like Siri not being available on the iPhone 4. Of course people would rather connect to an existing TV. I am telling you that they won't do that! It will be the software which drives hardware sales is what I'm sayin'!
How much processing power would an Apple Television need?
An A5 would give them Siri, but what about all the enchacments TV's do? Sonys Bravia 3 engine does a bunch of stuff to the image, would apple's A5 be able to do that stuff? would the use a thrid party chip? forgo the chip entirely? build their own chip?
An A5 would give them Siri, but what about all the enchacments TV's do? Sonys Bravia 3 engine does a bunch of stuff to the image, would apple's A5 be able to do that stuff? would the use a thrid party chip? forgo the chip entirely? build their own chip?
So that's it, a Siri powered telly. Well they need to work a hell of a lot on accents etc working with Siri. Sounds boring to me. And what exactly is 'broken' with television anyway? I buy a telly, I subscribe to reliable instant satellite TV with 3D and HD channels. What's broken about that? Apart from Apple is not getting my money?
Hmm knowing Apple, this one will fail the same as Apple TV, people won't 'get it' and I seriously doubt they'll get the predictable astronomical pricing.
Hmm knowing Apple, this one will fail the same as Apple TV, people won't 'get it' and I seriously doubt they'll get the predictable astronomical pricing.
I thought you had an old XBox... I actually do have one somewhere.
Well yeah, the XBox 360 is not that old.
Every time I have asked different people at the cable company they tell me CableCards have problems and don't work properly. I hope you don't run into problems too.