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Wait, all the forum members who said Apple would never do something like this actually don't have any clue what Apple would or would not do?? Shocking!

This is speculation. We still don't know what they will or won't do.

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"It’s the stuff of science fiction. You sit on your couch and rather than fumble with several remotes or use hand gestures, you simply talk: “Put on the last episode of Gossip Girl.” “Play the local news headlines.” “Play some Coldplay music videos.” Siri does the rest."

Umm... the Kinect and Xbox 360 already do this. But, I guess if Apple does it then it will "revolutionary". *sigh* Give me a break.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Kinect?xr=shellnav

Apple will invent it and everything else will be a copy. Just like everything else.
 
"It’s the stuff of science fiction. You sit on your couch and rather than fumble with several remotes or use hand gestures, you simply talk: “Put on the last episode of Gossip Girl.” “Play the local news headlines.” “Play some Coldplay music videos.” Siri does the rest."

Umm... the Kinect and Xbox 360 already do this. But, I guess if Apple does it then it will "revolutionary". *sigh* Give me a break.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Kinect?xr=shellnav

Siri is not voice commands....
 
My point was the pseudo-businessmen who live on these forums have no clue what another company is or isnt going to do.

So why don't you call out all the pseudo-businessmen who says that Apple will release a television, too? They have no more idea than the others.
 
All I hope for is whatever technology they put into these TV's is also available to Apple TV. I still believe a TV is a minimum of a 5 year device and this is either going to hold back development to a slower pace as people will be less likely to go out to buy such an expensive non-subsidized device or we're going to have a whole lotta people upset that their year old $2k TV set can't run the latest IOS. The simple solution in my mind is still Apple TV. It's an inexpensive device which one can more easily justify upgrading more often.

I guess another solution could be to have a port installed on the TV where an Apple TV type product could plug into it which would allow the "brains" of the TV to be inexpensively replaced without replacing the whole TV as a unit.
 
Imagine using your ipad as a remote with gestures instead of buttons? Swipe right to move channel forward, back to go backwards. Swipe upward for a favorites list, etc.

Too expensive. I'm sure developers will write all kinds of multi-touch TV control apps. But Apple can't expect everyone with an Apple TV set to buy an iPad. And bundling an iPad with the TV could be cost-prohibitive.
 
apple will go back to OTA

i bet they will integrate the TV with Clearwire or LightSquared to stream LTE data without going through the ISP.

the biggest problem with TV is not the use of it, but the cost. $150 for cable, internet and phone from Time Warner for me. a lot more if you add in sports and HBO. all the current streaming options rely on your ISP.

the industry is broken because the content companies along with the sports franchises are sucking up too much money while hiding the cost in the cable subscription. Once the true cost is revealed to the consumer we will have a huge bubble pop in the entertainment business
 
So why don't you call out all the pseudo-businessmen who says that Apple will release a television, too? They have no more idea than the others.

I've not seen one person say "Apple will release a tv!!" What I have seen is people say "there's no way apple will do this"....there's quite a difference.
 
2013? That is a pretty awkward moment in the world of TV technology. I hope either this or the second generation comes with 4000p (4k). :) Obviously there'll be little or no content for such a level of definition and peoples bandwich won't be able to cope but hey...it's something to dream about. Maybe after 2015.

4K actually refers to 4000 pixels in the horizontal direction. At a 16/9 aspect ratio it'd be 2250p.
 
Great, now you won't be able to watch any porn, because Siri will think you have a dirty mind. :mad:
 
Considering the 27 inch display that they are currently selling is $999, I have a feeling that this TV is going to be at least $2,000. Maybe higher.

Considering that the 27 inch display you are talking about is a 2560 x 1600 high end monitor, that is much higher resolution than any 50" TV that you can buy, with monitors of similar quality all costing between a little bit less and a lot more, I'd say this is nonsense.
 
http://www.speechtechmag.com/Articles/Editorial/Feature/Now-Thats-Entertainment-70994.aspx
Nuance Communications says it will also be working to improve home entertainment. “We’re in discussions with several set-top box manufacturers and cable providers [about] enabling you to speak a particular show or time and have the TV guide jump to that point—just a very quick search by voice, by genre, by show title, by time, by category, by actor or actress,” says Matt Revis, vice president of product management at Nuance.

Revis also points out that speech will get people to their leisure activities faster and easier. Nuance provides speech technology for Siri, a voice search application that Apple recently purchased. “It’s a kind of concierge service,” Revis explains. “You speak into it and say, I want reservations for two in Boston tomorrow night, and it will list all the restaurants with availability for tomorrow night for two people.”

I've seen videos of this from the Nuance labs. It's pretty slick.
 
As others have mentioned, all of these rumours are missing one thing:

What is the purpose of integrating this into a TV?

TVs are an extremely low-margin business. Why not sell a box (which people are also more liable to upgrade regularly) that you connect to any TV, that you can actually make some money on? In fact, you might notice Apple does this already. Tying your profitable device to a low margin device drives margins down, not up.

Unless they just think there's a limit to consumer interest in set-top boxes and it needs to be a TV "platform" to gain any traction? Or unless they're going a protected-device route and dealing directly with cable companies (kind of like the iPhone/carrier model), maybe with special platform-specific plans that let you pick and choose channels and the like. That would be interesting, but again, the rumours haven't come anywhere close to something on that scale.

I don't think the big breakthrough is going to be "it's a TV that streams your iTunes!"
 
I would hope that the thing would also offer a way to control it by hand/fingers/touch/remote..... As we've already seen, Siri doesn't understand everyone's speech.

It's surprising how well it does work, though.

I would say two years doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount of time for Apple to take Siri from just "beta" to a release where it really does work for everyone.

As far as why Apple should make a TV rather than another box that connects to a TV:
because only TV junkies understand how to hook up TVs to all these boxes right now. The move from making just the box to the whole TV makes as much sense as Apple moving from selling just the computer to selling the all-in-one computer, the iMac, which you'll remember is the best selling computer ever.
 
Just an idea, nothing serious... but what if Apple subsidized the price of the TV? The 16Gb iPhone costs what, $699 but subsidized to $199. We all pretty much know that an Apple TV would cost significantly more than other manufacturers. What if a customer signed up for 2 or 3 year contract with a TV provider, such as Fios or Dish, like a customer would do with a wireless phone provider. They could get a 42 inch 1080p 120 hz TV for maybe $799 instead of say $1699. This would also allow Apple to get the terms they want with things such as content and other things like they did with AT&T when they introduced the iPhone. I think that TV providers might go for it because they would see a significant influx of customers. People could get an unsubsidized TV for full price and use it with any provider they would like still but customers that did sign up with a provider would get some added bonuses like Siri integrated with DVR and the subsidized price. Just a thought at least
 
I don't really get what advantage it would be to build this into a TV set instead of making it a set-top box. Then people could choose the TV with the picture they like best instead of relying on Apple's choice.

They are in the business of making profits on both hardware and software. Also of controlling the entire experience. Airplay is the only thing that I am aware of that they license. They are also looking to eliminating clutter and simplifying the entire experience. I would be happy to just have a screen for all of my viewing, gaming and music listening needs.
 
Just an idea, nothing serious... but what if Apple subsidized the price of the TV? The 16Gb iPhone costs what, $699 but subsidized to $199. We all pretty much know that an Apple TV would cost significantly more than other manufacturers. What if a customer signed up for 2 or 3 year contract with a TV provider, such as Fios or Dish, like a customer would do with a wireless phone provider. They could get a 42 inch 1080p 120 hz TV for maybe $799 instead of say $1699. This would also allow Apple to get the terms they want with things such as content and other things like they did with AT&T when they introduced the iPhone. I think that TV providers might go for it because they would see a significant influx of customers. People could get an unsubsidized TV for full price and use it with any provider they would like still but customers that did sign up with a provider would get some added bonuses like Siri integrated with DVR and the subsidized price. Just a thought at least

Great, then we'd have to fight with cableco's to get them to unlock our TVs when we want to change providers, just like we do with locked cell phones now...
 
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