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Apple Looking to Launch Siri-Enabled Television Set by 2013

I wonder if Siri will be the only feature that will make this set stand out from others.
We all know Apple will charge premium for it, so I wonder if Siri is enough to justify dropping my gorgeous Pioneer Elite 60" for an Apple set. Sorry but no thanks at this point.
I hope Apple can also create a solution for a more interesting AppleTV, but in the end the game changer is how they will bring tons of content into iTunes to really move these sets fast. If people have a real option to drop the cable/satellite providers, then I think they will have a winning proposition.
 
Qd-led

It would be wonderful if Quantum Dot LEDs are ready (hope they have lengthened out the lifespan of the QDs) when Apple is ready to go. Nanosys said earlier this year that we would see it on mobile devices late this year, or early next. It makes a lot of sense for mobile. They also claimed that TV's would be out some time next year (probably toward the end of the year).

They are cheaper to produce, have a much larger colour gamut, and much larger contrast ratio. Earlier this year Nanosys and Samsung retrofitted one into an iPad. When Robert Scoble saw it, he thought it must be a retina display. It was actually the same pixel count as the current LED screen on the iPad, but the way the brain handles the extra colors makes it appear to be higher resolution.
 
Well if Apple's pricing structure is anywhere near the pricing structure for their displays it'll be a tough decision to even entertain buying one of these "TVs"..

And with how Apple has their ecosystem closed off to certain technolgoies, for example USB ports in iPads, flash on mobile devices, etc, etc.. Now a days, USB ports are about as plentiful on a TV as they are on a computer.. I can only imagine how Apple is going to "cripple" this TV and tie it into their ecosystem..
 
I just hope that if they do launch a new TV set they also do bring some substantial upgrades to the AppleTV. I'm sure the TV itself would have its advantages, but there's still a lot of people who would want to keep TVs they've already invested money on or people who prefer to use projectors.

Better yet, I wish they'd license their AppleTV tech to several manufacturers and give consumers a choice of TV with Apple integration. If my current TV had my AppleTV box built into it I'd be very happy. Yeah, I know I'll probably win a Vegas jackpot before that happens, but that would be my personal preference.

But who knows. I'm sure once I see one and all it has to offer I'll probably change my mind and sell a kidney to afford it.
 
mingoglia said:
All I hope for is whatever technology they put into these TV's is also available to Apple TV. I still believe a TV is a minimum of a 5 year device and this is either going to hold back development to a slower pace as people will be less likely to go out to buy such an expensive non-subsidized device or we're going to have a whole lotta people upset that their year old $2k TV set can't run the latest IOS. The simple solution in my mind is still Apple TV. It's an inexpensive device which one can more easily justify upgrading more often.

I guess another solution could be to have a port installed on the TV where an Apple TV type product could plug into it which would allow the "brains" of the TV to be inexpensively replaced without replacing the whole TV as a unit.
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yep, TV sets don't make sense to me as something Apple should pursue. Unless they have a feature that people cannot live without and Siri is not that imo.
 
Auto-update through porn:

TV: An update is available, do you want to install
Same TV: Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!

TV updates itself...
 
I'm very interested in this, because the mess of remotes, expense of cable tv, and unfriendly interface in my current TV makes me hate the thing.

As for Kinect, I have one and it's ok, but not great. It has SEVERE limitations on the voice control. It doesn't recognize the names of anything, just their positions on screen. So you can't say "Play the latest episode of The Office", you have to hope it's suggested for you and then say "Play Video 1". If it's not a suggested video, back to the controller to navigate to it manually. The motion tracking is excellent when it works, but it also has problems there. Granted it's impressive for a 1.0 product (and puts the Playstation motion system to shame) but light years behind what Siri is shooting for.

If Apple could allow you to control this all via Siri it would be amazing.
 
guzhogi said:
Also, how will it know to not listen to the dialog on the TV shows/music, etc.?
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Yeah that'll be a big problem to overcome. Apple will have to find a way to filter voice created from speakers to real life voice.

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GenesisST said:
Auto-update through porn:

TV: An update is available, do you want to install
Same TV: Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!

TV updates itself...
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Uh... what?:confused:
 
2IS said:
The first part of your concern is no different than people fighting over the remote. i.e., personal problem and not one that any technology will solve. But even that can be minimized by requiring a button being pressed on the remote before issuing a command.

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However, the "solution" is not to give EVERYONE a remote... but you're right, it's not a technology problem....

"The booing rose and died again as Piggy lifted the white, magic remote."


While talking to your "device" makes sense when you're driving a vehicle, unless you're handicapped or otherwise temporarily physically impaired, I simply don't see the advantage of talking to your computer or your television.

I can type far faster than I can talk.

and

I can push a button on my remote control far faster than I can say "SIRI, LAST CHANNEL" or "SIRI, MENU... INTERNET... NEW RELEASES.... SCROLL DOWN.... SCROLL DOWN... SELECT AIRWOLF.... SELECT SEASON TWO... SELECT EPISODE FOUR... PLAY EPISODE FOUR... etc. etc.".

Not to mention waking up whoever happens to be napping on the couch next to me with all my definitive verbal commands.
 
840quadra said:
Agreed,

knowing it runs iOS, makes it feel really crippled when I compare what I can do with my iPod touch, and iPhone.

Really think Apple is missing the mark not allowing people to use applications on their Apple TV hardware. So much potential in that device, and it gets so little attention.
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Yeah. I just feel with all the millions upon millions of TVs already out there why not make the AppleTV more eye catching. Siri could work on any TV then. I would be wary about buying a complete TV from Apple. How many HDMIs slots would it have? Whats the price? Can i only get it in 1 or 2 different sizes? Whats the lifespan of one of their TVs going to be?

Its more the content that needs to change for me. I hardly watch any TV on my TV. Its usually DVDs or Blu-Rays. If i do watch TV then its a sporting event. I dont see how owning an Apple full TV set will benefit me
 
something3153 said:
What exactly is it, then? You say something, it's processed by a computer, and it gives you a text-to-voice response. Sounds like voice control.
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On the xbox you can only say "xbox, play disk" you can't say "xbox open ufc trainer", "xbox, I want to workout", "xbox, start ufc trainer". Voice command works only a programmed command, Siri can act based normal speech.
 
The biggest thing I see here with Siri and its not voice control but it’s actually a tool which completely bypasses Google. That’s huge. Massive. The search engine could be dead as we know it.
 
I honestly think this will be :apple:TV box and not an actual TV set. Makes no sense for Apple to brawl against all of the other makers for a low margin product. They can more easily "change the face of TV" and make more money buy sticking with and expanding on the :apple:TV model.

Why make and sell a small percentage of costly Apple brand TVs when you can basically make ANY TV an :apple:TV at a much, much lower price point.

...unless they've come up with a totally new display technology that no one has that would in fact change what a TV is and how we use it, not just Siri and iOS technology, but something that literally changes the hardware-side to create a new paradigm (i.e. Minority Report style displays).
 
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I wonder how Siri will work on a room full o people and loud. Will it recognized the voice commands. It seems it's going to be a PITA feature in some circumstances. I guess you can always resort to the remote on that case.

But my point is I hardly see this as a groundbreaking feature to move Apple Television sets in a fast pace. I think their goldmine is ATV for $99 and sell tons of it once the majority of the public can see real value on it.
 
spazzcat said:
On the xbox you can only say "xbox, play disk" you can't say "xbox open ufc trainer", "xbox, I want to workout", "xbox, start ufc trainer". Voice command works only a programmed command, Siri can act based normal speech.
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There are still limits to what it will handle. You know, those things it's been programmed to handle. To jump back to the XBox example, I doubt it would handle "XBox, I want to stab something" and launch Assassin's Creed for me.
 
spazzcat said:
On the xbox you can only say "xbox, play disk" you can't say "xbox open ufc trainer", "xbox, I want to workout", "xbox, start ufc trainer". Voice command works only a programmed command, Siri can act based normal speech.
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It's not different. Siri just has a much larger list of things it knows how to respond to.
 
Siri and echo

gugy said:
I wonder how Siri will work on a room full o people and loud. Will it recognized the voice commands. It seems it's going to be a PITA feature in some circumstances. I guess you can always resort to the remote on that case.
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My thoughts exactly! It won't. See what happened at Microsoft when they were demoing their voice recognition software.
 
dkersten said:
Just an idea, nothing serious... but what if Apple subsidized the price of the TV? The 16Gb iPhone costs what, $699 but subsidized to $199.
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There is no such thing as a "subsidized phone". If a phone costs $699 without a contract, and is "subsidized" to $199 with a 24 month contract, that just means that out of the money you spend every month on the contract, $25 every month pays for the $500 difference. (Anyone notice how 24 x $25 is more than $500? If you didn't, you probably _love_ "subsidized" phones. )

If you want a "subsidized" TV, ask your bank or your credit card company. Your bank might be the cheapest method.
 
what if you don't know what you wanna watch and you would like to scroll through a guide to choose something.

It would be annoying if siri was just reading off different show names of shows and movies
 
gugy said:
I wonder how Siri will work on a room full o people and loud. Will it recognized the voice commands. It seems it's going to be a PITA feature in some circumstances. I guess you can always resort to the remote on that case.
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One thing they could do is put a microphone into the tv (or Apple TV box) itself. That would communicate with the remote, comparing signals, to improve noise canceling (anything louder at the tv site compared to what the remote is hearing would be canceled out of the signal).
 
whiteboytrash said:
The biggest thing I see here with Siri and its not voice control but it’s actually a tool which completely bypasses Google. That’s huge. Massive. The search engine could be dead as we know it.
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Siri uses whatever search engine you set it for out of Google, Bing, and Yahoo. The search engine is anything but dead.
 
Excellent but...

...why does Apple have to make the TV itself instead of just the box. I think it's fair to assume that the TV will come in limited choices and with a hefty price. Would consumers go for that?
 
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