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Actually, it needs to appear on all of their EU sites, as detailed in the judgement. Not the US though.

No, read the ruling. It will appear on all of Apple's European sites. This was posted earlier in the thread.

Apple has to post on Every EU site, not just the UK you wont see this in the US.

Samsung made the request for it to be posted throughout the EU. The judge disagreed...

57. I am not persuaded that the list of websites in Schedule 1, other than the United Kingdom website, would be fair or appropriate. I am also not persuaded that the statement needs to be on the websites for one year. This is a very fast moving industry and I bear in mind the risk of prejudice to Apple and I will require the statement to be on the United Kingdom website of Apple corporation for six months.
 
BBC News now reports that Apple has lost its appeal and is now required to follow through on publishing its acknowledgments.The appeals judges ruled that Apple could satisfy the posting requirement for its own website by including a small link entitled "Samsung/Apple judgement" on the site for a period of one month.

Can someone confirm whether this link on Apple website is for one or 6 months? There are contradicting reports how long this links should be displayed.
 
No, read the ruling. It will appear on all of Apple's European sites. This was posted earlier in the thread.

Apple has to post on Every EU site, not just the UK you wont see this in the US.

No, only in the UK site as stated in paragraph 57 of the ruling:

I am not persuaded that the list of websites in Schedule 1, other than the United Kingdom website, would be fair or appropriate. I am also not persuaded that the statement needs to be on the websites for one year. This is a very fast moving industry and I bear in mind the risk of prejudice to Apple and I will require the statement to be on the United Kingdom website of Apple corporation for six months.
 
Is the honeymoon over for Apple?

Apple (NasdaqGS: AAPL - news) has been dealt a double blow after a US judge said yesterday it should be forced to reveal sensitive information about its profit margins and the technology giant lost a legal battle in Britain

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-ordered-reveal-profit-margins-124806170.html


I hope all will be ok but I believe that generally business will believe that Apple has asked for this by ignoring all the advice and to Cook soft to peddle on the lawsuits.

These things have a habit of boomeranging back which we are beginning to see, and the respect that the industry had for Steve Jobs is no more...
 
Do you have any links backing this up because I can't find any.

No, just this BBC article.

I think that the original ruling was 1 year and the appeal has reduced it to 6 months

No, I quoted from the original ruling in this post.



EDIT: They have now posted the appeal judgement. It's been reduced to one month.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html

I turn to the form of the publicity order. No more than that which is proportionate is necessary. As regards the newspaper publicity we had no complaint about the detail of that and, subject to the wording, I would affirm Judge Birss's order. As regards publicity on the Apple home web page, Mr Carr realistically recognised that Apple had a genuine interest in keeping it uncluttered. He proposed that instead of requiring the notice to be on the web page itself, it would be sufficient if there were a link provided from that to the notice. There are some links already provided. All that need be added is a link entitled "Samsung/Apple UK judgment." I think that would be appropriate and proportionate.

As regards the period for which the link should appear, Mr Carr recognised that a one month period would probably suffice. So I think it should be required for a month from the date the order of this Court is made. But for the fact that Apple have agreed to obtain discharge of the order of the Oberlandesgericht I would have considered a longer period necessary.
 
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What about driving on the left side? :eek:

We do drive on the left.

We are an island nation, and driving on the left has a historical function to it - likely back when we rode horses and you needed a sword in your right hand to defend (ride on the right hand side and you would use your left hand which, for the larger population would provide difficulty).

Fast forward and people around the world drive on the right, for various reasons. Nothing wrong with it, but we don't need to change our cars or roads since, as I said, we're an island nation and have no real need to do so.

I find the comment a little childish, sort of a last-ditch attempt at getting your own way.

I would also add that I have never had a warm beer here either. I noticed no difference in the coldness of beer in the US when I lived there either. It's a very outdated idea and bears no relevance to the topic at hand.

I am very fond of the US, but frankly it's comments like that that cause me to sigh.
 
We do drive on the left.

We are an island nation, and driving on the left has a historical function to it - likely back when we rode horses and you needed a sword in your right hand to defend (ride on the right hand side and you would use your left hand which, for the larger population would provide difficulty).

Fast forward and people around the world drive on the right, for various reasons. Nothing wrong with it, but we don't need to change our cars or roads since, as I said, we're an island nation and have no real need to do so.

I find the comment a little childish, sort of a last-ditch attempt at getting your own way.

I would also add that I have never had a warm beer here either. I noticed no difference in the coldness of beer in the US when I lived there either. It's a very outdated idea and bears no relevance to the topic at hand.

I am very fond of the US, but frankly it's comments like that that cause me to sigh.

You're also not alone with driving on the left side. Australia, India and several African countries and basically all former British colonies do it as well.

But it felt weird when I drove on the left side in Ireland. It wasn't as difficult as I had first expected, but it took a lot more concentration to drive.
 
I'm waiting the day when Apple will provide pressure-sensitive pen support for its iDevices. Will Samsung sue Apple?

Someone hasn't been paying attention to the gospels.

Hear these holy words:

"Nobody wants a stylus, yuch"
"If you see a stylus, they blew it"
- His Fruity Holiness

I could care less.

I think you mean "I couldn't care less".

http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/samsung-apple.pdf

Samsung (claimant)
Apple (defendant)

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See above, Samsung started it.

But the Samsung claim was a result of Apple being in contempt of court after having lost the original lawsuit that they started, so I'm not sure it's fair to say that Samsung started it.

I would also add that I have never had a warm beer here either. I noticed no difference in the coldness of beer in the US when I lived there either. It's a very outdated idea and bears no relevance to the topic at hand.

I am very fond of the US, but frankly it's comments like that that cause me to sigh.

Yeah, the only way the beer differs in the US is that it doesn't really taste like beer but ranges from tasting like carbonated water to rat piss.
 
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But the Samsung claim was a result of Apple being in contempt of court after having lost the original lawsuit that they started, so I'm not sure it's fair to say that Samsung started it.

The original lawsuit was filed by Samsung, pre-emptively asking the court to rule before Apple could file their own lawsuit and ask for a preliminary injunction as they were doing in the rest of the EU at the time.
 
For some reason I thought that Apple filed in the US initially and then Samsung started filing in different locations around the world. Am I misremembering or did something similar to that happen?
 
For some reason I thought that Apple filed in the US initially and then Samsung started filing in different locations around the world. Am I misremembering or did something similar to that happen?

Apple filed in many jurisdictions. But in the UK, it's Samsung who filed pre-emptively.
 
UK courts have no jurisdiction in the US, so they cannot order Apple to do anything here. It will appear only on apple.co.uk.

jW

And several media publications with millions of readership. It's even funnier it has to post the advert in T3 too as you could consider that the grandaddy of tech and gadget reviews and news publications, it's not a computer magazine but just covers everything tech.

Aaaah, Samsung...

Ah HP:

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Apple (NasdaqGS: AAPL - news) has been dealt a double blow after a US judge said yesterday it should be forced to reveal sensitive information about its profit margins and the technology giant lost a legal battle in Britain

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-ordered-reveal-profit-margins-124806170.html


I hope all will be ok but I believe that generally business will believe that Apple has asked for this by ignoring all the advice and to Cook soft to peddle on the lawsuits.

These things have a habit of boomeranging back which we are beginning to see, and the respect that the industry had for Steve Jobs is no more...

I think you'll find that's because Apple has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Samsungs apparent copying caused irreparable and widespread damage to Apple's profits as a direct result. Hence why Apple is hardly abiding with the request on one side, and announcing year on year on year record profits on the other :rolleyes:
It would be interesting to find out exactly HOW much Apple marks up it's products by though wouldn't it? I would imagine it would be 30% to 100% or more. But that's because they are their own worst enemy as they strictly control the RRP across all outlets and seem to ban any sales on it's products unless it's old stock. Hence the Mac Pro being an incredibly overpriced dinosaur.

Yeah, the only way the beer differs in the US is that it doesn't really taste like beer but ranges from tasting like carbonated water to rat piss.

I don't know mate, I've been to some clubs and pubs in my youth and swear I was drinking coloured rats p***! But it got you drunk all the same :D
 
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I''ve been reading through this and similar type threads like this with amusement at:

1. People who claim had the situation been reversed "fanboys" would gloat, yet they are gloating.

2. People claim breaking/killing/demolishing Apple's monopoly is good for consumers. Yet praising that "DROID" is taking over. How's that good for consumer choice?!!

3. People saying apple should get back to innovating, and that shapes should not be patented, but thinks it's okAY that others don't innovate, just make one similar, but patent theirs...

I'm all for the court making its ruling in favour of Samsung if it's finding is such that they didn't copy... BUT I think forcing a company to advertise for another is beyond childish. I've seen contempt of court being thrown around o-0 I doubt Apple is the first company and or individual as the case may require that has spoken out about a ruling. The advertise ruling borders abuse of power IMHO.

Foxy

1. As others have pointed out - it's not gloating just because people don't post negatively about the ruling. Who is gloating and what do you consider a gloating statement?

2. Who in this thread has claimed Apple is a monopoly? I don't even think the word "Droid" has been used. And I'm fairly certain there hasn't been any praise. You realize this thread isn't about Google or Android, right? It's about Samsung and Apple.

3. Please show me a comment that someone said that Apple should get back to innovating and also thinks it's OK for anyone to copy (let alone patent their copy)

Hyperbole is easy to post. So are sweeping generalizations.

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I think you'll find that's because Apple has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Samsungs apparent copying caused irreparable and widespread damage to Apple's profits as a direct result. Hence why Apple is hardly abiding with the request on one side, and announcing year on year on year record profits on the other :rolleyes:

It's an interesting thing because one would never reallllly be able to prove anything. Meaning - how many people did Samsung sell a phone or tablet to that would have bought an iDevice? If someone really wanted an iDevice - I'm going to guess that that's what they bought. Same goes for if someone really wanted a Samsung (and/or Android) device. So the group that is most in question are the undecideds. And that's a hard group to quantify as to what they WOULD have done. If it wasn't Samsung's phone they bought, it could have just as easily been Motorola's or fill in the blank.

I've said it before. I'm not convinced that Apple is really concerned with the hardware (although they do make great profits from them). This is really a battle of ecosystem. Because once invested - it's a potential lifetime revenue stream for a customer.
 
See... Even the Judge is "with it" when it comes to decisions.... :).

"Not cool" .... My feeling exactly... A job well done.
 
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Apple got served. This overrated crap producing company will soon be done now that their messiah is dead
 
Some common sense at last. About time we had a non biased judge. I love my ipad and my nexus 7 and my samsung smart phone. There is room for all of them.
 
tablets, prior art

I guess somebody brought in a skeleton of a bronze age Hittite with his portable cuneiform tablet. Who is claiming he was the first to use a rectangle with rounded edges for reading and writing. The circular reading products kept on rolling away and the rectangles and triangles with sharp corners kept on breaking and making a mess.
 
This is hilarious. Apple, say your sorry! Is this an adult court or did Apple sue in kiddie court? Did the court find that Apple just made up the complaint? Just to spite Samsung? If Apple is of the opinion that a competitor copied their products, don't they have a right to take them to court? Win or lose, its their right. An apology seems like they did it just to hurt Samsung. Clearly they both have lawsuits against each other all over the world with both sides winning some and losing some. Obviously there is an issue, it wasn't just made up. An apology is absurd. I'm sorry I think you copied my product? This judge is a moron, and I'd say that no matter who apologized to who. That isn't how law works.

Well it seems it is how it works. I suppose a judge who sat through detailed examinations of both sides evidence, having served many years as a lawyer and eventually appointed to be a judge just might have a better grasp of the situation than you.
 
If I was Samsung, I'd probably be feeling more like a loser than a winner in this case.

For sure they have learned a lesson, they have lost millions and millions. Or at least I hope they have learned something from this.
 
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