Apple Loses Out as Netflix Inks Content Deal With Former President Obama

[prasand]

People who combat your 'wannabe Nazis' don't do if for hate, we do it to protect others and move our country forward.

I actually don't think that you or they are wrong for doing so. I believe that everything in life has its place, even hate. I choose not to live with hate, but I do not think that is the right way to be, or better than another's choice. Everyone is entitled to their choice even if I disagree.

But it's similar to how another person conveyed ... racists don't like to be called racist. People are so convinced in the righteousness of their war, that they don't like to be associated with negative perceptions of it. For example, "don't do it for hate." You want to believe it's noble, "we do it to protect others". When, they do it to protect others too (to protect people like them). Both sides are convinced in the nobility of their actions, not realizing it's all relative.

Again, this is not wrong, this is just a part of life.

But what happens if you win the war? What happens in a world where the hate of race is completely intolerated by everyone? What happens in a world where mixed marriages and children are the standard, and albino children are born? Even if they are accepted because the world "doesn't discriminate", they will still feel different and maybe even scared, as everyone is always telling them that they are wrong for feeling that way. What would happen to them due to the resentment that builds as they are treated without acceptance / without respect for their feelings? Would they be lynched by a completely intolerant society born of war, maybe burned for being a witch?

I think so long as the two sides aren't being understanding, it will always exist.

Unless mixed race children become the significant majority (which I think will eventually happen). Then perhaps there will be a period of peace, but I think eventually another cycle of discrimination will begin. Unless there is an evolution of understanding. Ultimately, I don't think any of this is wrong, I just know it's self-perpetuating, which is fine. So long as people are being told that they are wrong, on topics that they truly hold dear, they will build resentment. Even in a peaceful world.

There needs to be an evolution of understanding, but it's fine if that never happens.

 

[noles1983]

What a cesspool most of these comments are. Trumpers are so quick to cancel or break something if its pro-Obama or anti-Trump. Wonder if these people also broke their Keurig's. Willing to bet 90% of these people will not cancel their Netflix account. All talk.

 

[thadoggfather]

I think it was it was Bucaenwald or smashing like thar, I will try to double check.

Quick question, since no one on the planet defends Nazis the way you do other than Nazis how long have you been one?

How long have you advocated for violence against those who simply disagree with you? In other words, How long have you supported Antifa?

 

[fairuz]

CBS, NBC and NPR are considered "Far left" because most of the actions and words coming from Trump are negative. Reporting negative stories about a president doesn't make it "left".

If anyone were to watch MSNBC, you would see Obama and Hillary criticized far more than you would see Trump criticized on Fox. And MSNBC is the liberal network...

As for Treyvon Martin, I saw plenty of information from multiple sources about defenses Zimmerman could have (and ultimately did) end up using. But I read a lot of internet news articles as well and don't remember exactly which sources I viewed/read such info.

If we start calling NBC (not MSNBC), CBS and NPR "far left", it shows that people aren't interested in fact-based news. And this president has been very good at furthering the destruction and merit of truth.

I'm basing this judgement on their reporting before Trump was even running for office. NBC and NPR are very selective about what they present, and it's made apparent by a quick comparison between them and other news sources on the same story. Both of their coverages of Treyvon Martin were pretty horribly skewed, and it should be easy to find other cases. There are also stories they omit, like anything about someone with a gun saving the day. It's also common knowledge that NBC and NPR are on the Democrat side while Fox is Republican, and CBS is considered middle (but again I barely watch them).

It's harder to tell nowadays because Trump started a war with news in general, so pretty much everyone is after him. If I remember correctly, even Fox News showed him in negative light until he won the primaries.

 

[neliason]

I think it was it was Bucaenwald or smashing like thar, I will try to double check.

Quick question, since no one on the planet defends Nazis the way you do other than Nazis how long have you been one?

How childish. I haven’t defended Nazis at all. If you and your grandfather are such tough guys go find some Nazis, some real Nazis, and punch them. And I don’t mean with a bigger mob behind you backing you up.

 

[burgman]

Again this isn’t an argument.

Speaking in hyperbole, with persistence, doesn’t make it more true.

I see my view that Michelle Obama May in fact not be who she says she is, has deeply upset you. We weren’t talking about her then and we aren’t now, but she keeps coming up to discredit me. How odd!

We have a word for that: triggered.

You’re quite hateful in this thread if I’m being honest. It’s sad that that’s your mantra. Really genuinely sad. I’ll pray for you.

Great things are happening and you are letting your hatred get in the way of seeing or acknowledging *any* of it. The media hasn’t done you any favors in life. You prioritize repetition of emotion over facts.

This post and most of your others on this thread are classic projection at work. Do I expect you to see it, of course not.

 

[thadoggfather]

This post and most of your others on this thread are classic projection at work. Do I expect you to see it, of course not.

I am letting hatred get in the way of seeing any good things happening?

Weird because I thought I was defending the president and progress he has mode, not attacking his every word and throwing away all shreds of evidence he’s dOne something right.

Again we are watching two different movies unfold.

 

[burgman]

I'm basing this judgement on their reporting before Trump was even running for office. NBC and NPR are very selective about what they present, and it's made apparent by a quick comparison between them and other news sources on the same story. Both of their coverages of Treyvon Martin were pretty horribly skewed, and it should be easy to find other cases. There are also stories they omit, like anything about someone with a gun saving the day.

It's harder to tell nowadays because Trump started a war with news in general, so pretty much everyone is after him.

Except Fox, and all the other wacko echo chamber websites masquerading as news sites. Confirmation bias has taken over the USA, and has made us so much weaker as a result.

 

[entropys]

Wh

I love the people replying to this thread saying “politics aside, I hate this.” They’re really saying “politics aside, I hate Obama so I’m gonna come here and be bitter about it.”

What, you don’t think this is a bad concept?
Right away it is decisive. And to think it won’t be a vehicle for justifying past actions/working out personal issues/playing politics/vendettas is naive. Susan Rice got on the board. It altogether makes Netflix appear partisan. A stupid idea.

Former Presidents should be like Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, achieve your goals, then go back to the farm and retire in grace, a job well done.
Americans could learn a lot from the old adage “The King is dead! Long live the King!”. Same same for former Presidents (well not literally, but retire into obscurity and grace for goodness sake).

 

[fairuz]

I think it was it was Bucaenwald or smashing like thar, I will try to double check.

Quick question, since no one on the planet defends Nazis the way you do other than Nazis how long have you been one?

Uhh... UC Berkeley defends Nazis' right to free speech too. I witnessed the physical battles over that.

 

[jjk454ss]

Haha

http://babylonbee.com/news/obamas-p...ok-netflix-deals-to-combat-wealth-inequality/

 

[chrisbru]

It’s better for a “reality star” (who is really into real estate more than reality shows, and has buildings with his name on them everywhere in the world to show for it) who has tasted success and the american dream and gone on to selflessly want others to have it too, reflected in booming economy, than to be a “wisened” former president, who should know better by now, turned into a “reality star” our of desperation to stay relevant.

That’s just my opinion tho. Clearly we don’t all agree on everything

So many things wrong with this reply:
1. Trump has nothing to do with the American Dream, and very little to do with "success" in a traditional sense. He was born into money, and leveraged that position into a career of debt manipulation and failed ego-driven entities. Yeah, he may be technically rich, but the American Dream is being able to increase your socio-economic status, not being born into wealth and remaining there.
2. There is nothing selfless about Trump. Please, give some example of how he has selflessly wanted others to have "success."
3. The economy has been growing and thriving for years. Trump has not had a positive effect on that, and has essentially stalled the growth and poised us for a recession with the recent tax bill, trade wars, and insane military posturing.
4. The Obamas are not starring in anything, nor is there even any indication that reality TV will be a part of this deal. It's merely giving them a platform to produce content. Both Barack and Michelle Obama have written books, and it's certainly not unexpected or uncommon for authors to move into TV/movie production.

But sure, chalk it up to "disagreement" rather than complete and utter detachment from reality.

 

[citysnaps]

I'm actually quite curious to see what they come up with. I never got the impression that Mrs. Obama actually liked politics. She just seemed to be someone supporting her spouse in his career.

It is interesting that we had a former actor who became President (Reagan) and now we have a former President going into acting.

I've recently started watching "Stranger Things" on Netflix and it is very entertaining. I'm very interested to see the original content that Apple comes up with.

But then I use both an iPhone 6S+ and a Samsung Galaxy S8+. Perhaps I should just describe myself as "smartphone fluid".

There is a difference.

Barrack Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude. He was also editor of the prestigious Harvard Law Review. And then a fellow at The University of Chicago Law School where he taught constitutional law. He was also Of Council to a law firm engaged in civil rights litigation before being elected to the US Senate, before becoming US President. Those are just the highlights. Michelle Obama was a graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School, worked for a law firm, and was an associate dean of University of Chicago.

Both are extremely intelligent people.

Ronald Regan graduated from Eureka College, a small liberal arts school in Illinois with a C average and then went into radio and then acting. He was Governor of California before becoming US President.


"and now we have a former President going into acting."

No, he's not going into acting.

 

[Mirice99]

How long have you advocated for violence against those who simply disagree with you? In other words, How long have you supported Antifa?

I don’t it’s what my grandfather said seeing people like you out in the open, Doubt he would actually do it.

So were you a born into a full German blooded Nazi family and that’s why your outraged people are comparing the active Nazis of today to the Nazis of WW2 or are you sad the active Nazis of today are all talk and no action?

 

[zeromeus]

That's GREAT NEWS! We don't need any virus invading Apple products.

 

[fairuz]

How long have you advocated for violence against those who simply disagree with you? In other words, How long have you supported Antifa?

Ugh, kinda accurate. Alt-right speakers came to Berkeley. Also just intense Trump supporters on a different occasion, and even a pretty standard Republican guy named Ben Shapiro. All people you could easily ignore if you disliked them. Each time, those ***holes called Antifa came and started assaulting people and damaging tons of property. Seemed their goal was to terrorize people into not speaking. Sadly, they kinda won because they made security prohibitively expensive.

Gotta say it made Trump's side look great because they were all peaceful unless attacked, and unfortunately this also made the alt-right whackos look good. Worst of all, the media still made it look like UCB's fault even though they were the only university actually doing the right thing and letting people speak (UCLA censored the same speakers). Trump complained about it, and maybe it factored into his new tax on grad student funding. Oh, and the city and school had to spend tons of money dealing with this crap.

The fault for this immense damage lies 100% on Antifa and other violent protestors, not on the Nazis or anyone else. Even the peaceful protestors made an unwise move; they should've simply ignored the speakers instead of making them newsworthy.

 

[thadoggfather]

I don’t it’s what my grandfather said seeing people like you out in the open, Doubt he would actually do it.

So were you a born into a full German blooded Nazi family and that’s why your outraged people are comparing the active Nazis of today to the Nazis of WW2 or are you sad the active Nazis of today are all talk and no action?

Sorry but comparing conservatives and people who don’t love Antifa and Hillary/Obama to Nazis is completely unacceptable and likely very insulting to actual holocaust survivors who went through actual hell,

I can’t imagine how they feel, for liberals that speak in hyperbole and maintain it as fact to play into their victim hood for being losers of the election.

To each his own

Nazis are Nazis, swastikas and all. People you disagree with, as Nazis, are not.

 

[fairuz]

I don’t it’s what my grandfather said seeing people like you out in the open, Doubt he would actually do it.

So were you a born into a full German blooded Nazi family and that’s why your outraged people are comparing the active Nazis of today to the Nazis of WW2 or are you sad the active Nazis of today are all talk and no action?

No violence unless it's in response to violence, end of story. I don't even see reason to argue with actual Nazis.

 

[Mirice99]

Sorry but comparing conservatives and people who don’t love Antifa and Hillary/Obama to Nazis is completely unacceptable and likely very insulting to actual holocaust survivors who went through actual hell,

I can’t imagine how they feel, for liberals that speak in hyperbole and maintain it as fact to play into their victim hood for being losers of the election.

To each his own

Nazis are Nazis, swastikas and all. People you disagree with, as Nazis, are not.

Sorry the 2nd part was for someone else who is openly defending Nazis and trying to claim their is a difference between the Nazis of today and the Nazis of Ww2 and refuses to condem or say a single bad word about them while justifying that the Nazis in American “haven’t actually killed Jews” so they aren’t that bad.

I probably just missed all your posts condemning Nazis though.....

 

[jonblatho]

Obama is the worst president in modern history. Let his own words on the national debt show how he was all talk and no show:

"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents - #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."

"Today I'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office," Obama said. "Now, this will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we've long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay, and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”

TLDR: Oblama says adding $4 trillion to the national debt is irresponsible and unpatriotic. Obuma promises to cut debt in half in his first term. Then proceeds to ADD $9 TRILLION to the debt leaving our children enslaved to his incompetence for generations on end.

[whispers]

debt and deficit aren’t the same thing

 

[GermanSuplex]

2. There is nothing selfless about Trump. Please, give some example of how he has selflessly wanted others to have "success."

Trump U, where he selflessly divulged his most coveted secrets in real estate and investing.

No successes, but money is nothing compared to knowledge.

 

[fairuz]

Obama is the worst president in modern history. Let his own words on the national debt show how he was all talk and no show:

"The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents - #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."

"Today I'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office," Obama said. "Now, this will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we've long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay, and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control."

TLDR: Oblama says adding $4 trillion to the national debt is irresponsible and unpatriotic. Obuma promises to cut debt in half in his first term. Then proceeds to ADD $9 TRILLION to the debt leaving our children enslaved to his incompetence for generations on end.

Trump is adding more to it too despite the economy being great, just like Bush did. At least Obama was doing it to deal with a recession. Seems like we're going into debt just to inflate the stock market, and consumer prices are also rising at a scary pace.

 

[Mirice99]

No violence unless it's in response to violence, end of story.

I will be sure to tell my grandfather who never leaves the nursing home that wanting to punch a nazi is wrong and he should just talk with the people who celebrate the deaths of his fellow America servicemen in WW2, consider Hitler a hero, and want to exterminate all Jews. Hopefully the “totally not real nazis” stop shouting “death to the Jews”, “hitler was right”, “blood and soil”, “white power” and everything to have an intelligent conversation as to why all the Jews should be wiped from the planet.

 

[neliason]

Sorry the 2nd part was for someone else who is openly defending Nazis and trying to claim their is a difference between the Nazis of today and the Nazis of Ww2 and refuses to condem or say a single bad word about them while justifying that the Nazis in American “haven’t actually killed Jews” so they aren’t that bad.

There is a difference in American Nazis. The primary being there is zero realistic threat from modern American Nazis. They won’t get elected. At best they may be able to carry out issolated acts of terror.

The ideology is embraced by people on the margins of society. Anyone who wasn’t on the margins would soon find himself there for embracing that ideology, which is proof of their weakness as a group. By focusing attention on these people you are actually giving them more power than they would otherwise have.

By people actually violently attacking them they are making the Nazis the sympathetic party to anyone who doesn’t embrace political violence. By calling anyone a Nazi who disagrees with your politics you make the word Nazi more and more innocuous.

Real Nazis with lots of support would be a concern. A few people on the margins of society aren’t. Also, half the Nazis are probably government agents.

 

[fairuz]

I will be sure to tell my grandfather who never leaves the nursing home that wanting to punch a nazi is wrong and he should just talk with the people who celebrate the deaths of his fellow America servicemen in WW2, consider Hitler a hero, and want to exterminate all Jews. Hopefully the “totally not real nazis” stop shouting “death to the Jews”, “hitler was right”, “blood and soil”, “white power” and everything to have an intelligent conversation as to why all the Jews should be wiped from the planet.

I said it's better to ignore them, not talk to them. Honestly I've never encountered a Nazi myself; you kinda have to go out of your way to do that. And for sure if they make any actual threats, they deserve whatever they get.