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No, I was merely reflecting a point.

So instead I'll reflect it this way:

I saw the march, and personally what i saw was ... a bunch of scared people on both sides. I could see the terror in their eyes as their beliefs were challenged with hostility. I could see the anger in the eyes of those that felt invalidated / violated. I saw the man who was hit as he was preaching hate, and after he was hit ... he was completely surprised, as I laughed and thought "what did you expect?" But then I realized, as I saw in his eyes, he truly didn't understand why he was hit.

I stepped back and saw the magnitude / implications of that.

On one side, you have those preaching the hate of a race.

On the other side, you have those preaching the hate of hate.

So you have two hateful sides fighting, with both sides believing that their hate is more justified than the other. Yet, both are preaching hate. You believe you are a fine person. They believe they are too. Are you more of a fine person because your hate is better than theirs?

Nope...


Your argument if flawed because 'hate of hate' is not a side.

A tolerant society can only be tolerant of intolerance to a point.

If we are to exist in the country with multiple races then we can't tolerate 'hate of race' as acceptable and anyone who promotes 'hate of race' is working to tear this county apart.

These types of people are not considered 'fine people' in our society.
 
No I'm referring to the artist who painted a scene of white people being beheaded and glorified, sorry we see two different movies.


And being pals with Farrakhan, an open Anti-Semite, that was withheld from being released until now.. I wonder why


Great avatar. I see Trump lives rent free in your brain too!
Tell us more lies you've learned to parrot Hannity on.
 
Your argument if flawed because 'hate of hate' is not a side.

A tolerant society can only be tolerant of intolerance to a point.

I actually like the way you conveyed that. I enjoyed reading it (the entire reply), lol. It genuinely made me smile.

I don't agree, but I do see and understand what you're saying.

Why do you think that to exist as a country of many races we must be intolerant of the "hate of race"? Personally I think that a country of many races, and cultures also has many views. That the tolerance of views outside of our own, fosters the principle of the country itself.
 
The title of the painting was Judith and Holofernes (I.e., the name of the biblical story). You may not appreciate modern art, but there’s nothing wrong with that painting.

And Kathy Griffin beheading Trump is an interpretation of the Mona Lisa

Shakespeare in the Park, Trump assassination porn, is a ‘Shakespeare play’

Your point? Still triggered?
 
I would have thought Macrumors would be one of the few places we could get away from these types of comments. *sigh.
 
And Kathy Griffin beheading Trump is an interpretation of the Mona Lisa

Shakespeare in the Park, Trump assassination porn, is a ‘Shakespeare play’

Your point? Still triggered?

My only point is that trying to make something out of the fact that Obama had a portrait painted by someone who has previously done paintings depicting biblical scenes makes you look foolish.
 
My only point is that trying to make something out of the fact that Obama had a portrait painted by someone who has previously done paintings depicting biblical scenes makes you look like an idiot.

My point is that isn’t a biblical painting. Call it that all you like, it’s an angry black woman beheading a blonde ponytail white chick with an upbeat Wallpaper in the background. It’s completely off base.

My eyes tell me all the story I need to know

If Trump had a painter that had a painting of a white dude, beheading a black guy, biblically titled and pitched, tell me with a straight face there wouldn’t be outrage.

The rules quickly change and ‘must interpreted differently’ when its ‘your guy’ tho. That’s why its difficult to take you serious, in addition to your avatar. That is literally your identity is being Anti Trump. So naturally I expect you to never concede, and just hurl 24/7 vitriol as you seem to be doing in this thread.
 
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Can’t think of anything more boring then watching programmes by Obama.........

He didn’t care much for the U.K. really then had the ordasity to tell us how to vote in the EU referendum!

Can’t say I think much of him. But I’d find anything by ex politicians as boring propaganda designed for them to inflate their wealth..
 
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My grandfather in a nursing home told me he would "punch a nazi in the ****ing throat" if he ever saw one again and that he didn't fight them in the 40s and lose friend to see them walk the streets again.

Threats of violence against people you disagree with? You may not want to reduce politics to pure violence with real Nazis around.

If Nazis showed up at a BLM march, guess what, the BLM march ends with a fight between them and the Nazis. Under no circumstances would any group other than other Nazis and racists march long side Nazis and not confront them.

That kind of happened in Greensboro, NC in the 70s. The Black communists started a fight with the Nazis and Klan and ended up the worse for it with some deaths.
 
I would call them "Nazi wannabes", but the true meaning of Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. -- They have taken that and repurposed it. But just because they did, doesn't mean they are a part of the same group, and thus are to blame for the original group's actions.

These wannabe Nazis didn't kill Jews, they're just identifying with those that did. Which I'm not saying is a good thing or anything. I just understand the difference.
Ok...what is your point then?

Are you saying they are just scared wannabe's that need love to combat their hate?

Well these wannabe's try instill fear and intimate others that don't follow their beliefs.
You also might want to look up the countless acts of violence these 'wannabes' commit on a daily basis.

If you're being honest, you would have referenced the 'wannabe' that drove his car into a group of innocent people as filled with hate. The other side (as you call it) were just victims of your hate filled 'wannabes'.

So no matter how you slice it. The 'wannabe Nazis' are not 'fine people'.

People who combat your 'wannabe Nazis' don't do if for hate, we do it to protect others and move our country forward.
 
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My point is that isn’t a biblical painting. Call it that all you like, it’s an angry black woman beheading a blonde ponytail white chick. It’s completely off base.

My eyes tell me all the story I need to know

If Trump had a painter that had a painting of a white dude, beheading a black guy, biblically titled and pitched, tell me with a straight face there wouldn’t be outrage.

The rules quickly change and ‘must interpreted differently’ when its ‘your guy’ tho. That’s why its difficult to take you serious, in addition to your avatar. That is literally your identity is being Anti Trump. So naturally I expect you to never concede, and just hurl 24/7 vitriol as you seem to be doing in this thread.

So, are these versions all OK only because Judith and Holofernes are both portrayed as white?

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^ you continue to miss my point and post classical paintings to substitute for words and digesting what I’m saying. That’s ok.

I wouldn’t have expected more tbh
 
Obama is done. You can hate him or love him as much as you want. It means nothing at this point. But anyone who rationally thinks that Trump is a good president is delusional.

Anyone who thinks so black and white about such complex issues is delusinal.
 
No, I get your point completely: manufactured outrage for no legitimate reason.

And here I thought you were describing the people who have pig depictions of the president (who is ‘not their’ president even tho these are facts that he is, if you are an American, whether you agree with him or not) in their avatar, and the Democratic Party in general that is banking on perpetually feigning outrage to bring people to the polls

You’re not gonna like the midterms, my dude!
 
And here I thought you were describing the people who have pig depictions of the president (who is ‘not their’ president even tho these are facts that he is, if you are an American, whether you agree with him or not) in their avatar, and the Democratic Party in general that is banking on perpetually feigning outrage to bring people to the polls

You’re not gonna like the midterms, my dude!

I’m not feigning my outrage at all. I’m mad as hell at the *******s who turned the US presidency over to someone as vile, corrupt and incompetent as Trump. I’m also scared to death for the future of this country if more than 60 million people were willing to do something that stupid.
 
I’m not feigning my outrage at all. I’m mad as hell at the *******s who turned the US presidency over to someone as vile, corrupt and incompetent as Trump. I’m also scared to death for the future of this country if more than 60 million people were willing to do something that stupid.

People wanted a communist to be president before Hillary and the DNC disrespected our democratic process and would not allow Bernie to rise. Someone who would’ve turned this place into Venezuala and caused 18,000% inflation in a season and have people starving to death or eating rats. Someone who didn’t even have the spine or power to stand up to Hillary himself

People are butt hurt Hillary still lost, and when we bring her up, since she was the only other option, they say “still obsessed with Hillary?” When that’s the entire reason they are upset, because she didn’t win. Unbelievable !

People are upset Trump calls MS13 animals, may have a NK peace solution in play, wants to secure our borders (other presidents said that too but didn’t actually act on it), and has produced a booming economy with lowest Black and Hispanic and general unemployment for decades, giving them more in their pockets and less in taxes too. But they’re worried about what will hypothetically happen when that bill runs up in a few years, rather than rejoice in the progress made other presidents could
Talk about but not do. You are upset over what trump says, usually out of context and stretched to interpret as “he supports white supremacists” not what he does. It’s totally backwards.

You don’t know what stupid is.
 
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Ok...what is your point then?

My point is that the rejection of beliefs that people hold dear, are often the cause of the atrocious acts. Things escalate because prejudices (be that of race, religion, etc) ... are instilled and fostered, through experience and bias confirmation (since people see what they want to see). Ultimately, fighting against things we disagree with just creates war.

Being understanding is the only way to truly stop it, because you're not creating or contributing to war.

But so long as both sides fight, more people will die, and it won't end unless one side is eradicated / killed (even if only the death of their mind). You can justify more deaths if you'd like, personally I don't. I think individuality should be respected, even if I disagree with them.
 
People wanted a communist to be president before Hillary and the DNC disrespected our democratic process and would not allow Bernie to rise. Someone who would’ve turned this place into Venezuala and caused 18,000% inflation in a season and have people starving to death or eating rats. Someone who didn’t even have the power to stand up to Hillary himself

People are butt hurt Hillary still lost, and when we bring her up, since she was the only other option, they say “still obsessed with Hillary?” When that’s the entire reason they are upset, because she didn’t win. Unbelievable !

People are upset Trump calls MS13 animals, may have a NK peace solution in play, wants to secure our borders (other presidents said that too but didn’t actually act on it), and has produced a booming economy with lowest Black and Hispanic and general unemployment for decades, giving them more in their pockets and less in taxes too. But they’re worried about what will hypothetically happen when that bill runs up in a few years, rather than rejoice in the progress made other presidents could
Talk about but not do. You are upset over what trump says, usually out of context and stretched to interpret as “he supports white supremacists” not what he does. It’s totally backwards.

You don’t know what stupid is.

Trump is the most incompetent and corrupt man elected president in any of our lifetimes. It’s quite obvious to reasonable people, but I guess if you think Michelle Obama has a dick, you’ll believe anything.
 
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Obama was the most racist president in our history. Who encourages thugs to shoot cops? Who hires a painter that depicts the decapitation of white women to also paint his self-portrait? Who brings a Muslim kid who built a clock that looked like a bomb to the White House? Answer to all, Obama.

....what?
 
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