Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
While I'm not disagreeing with you, it's sad that so many people turn away from politics. Why isn't there a movement to start a new party? You're not stuck with 2 parties forever you know.

You Americans do have a flair for drama. "The worst president in history." Hilarious. And the current one is the best in history I assume. Let history decide about that when the consequences of all the corruption, money grabbing, deregulating and incompetence of Trump Land is fully visible.

Oh I participate in politics, I just won't watch media propaganda about politics.

While the second paragraph was not directed at me, I'll answer anyway. I'm not sure we have had a good American President in recent history. But then again, what we know now is that Presidents don't really run America. America is run by deeply seated bureaucrats, which cannot be fired, in the Judiciary, FBI, CIA, and the NSA. At the end of the day neither Congress nor the President has much say unless they are in line with the bureaucrats.

America has gone from a society with a level playing field by virtue of the law to a lawless free for all grab for power and money. We have an elite political class above the law, federal police in cahoots with the elite political class, and a judiciary that wants in on the same action.

The corruption, money grabbing, and incompetence started way before Trump, unless of course one does not care to see the reality behind the propaganda spewed by the media. There is a reason the major media outlets are losing money right and left as they are nothing more that propagandists.
 
Last edited:
While I'm not disagreeing with you, it's sad that so many people turn away from politics. Why isn't there a movement to start a new party? You're not stuck with 2 parties forever you know.
Even if we get the Libertarian and Green ones, I don't like them. Why can't there just be people kinda like Republicans except they care about the environment and don't elect Trump? Maybe Elon Musk would start that.
 
So what. No one outside of the U.S. would care.
Most people in the US don't care either.
[doublepost=1526944380][/doublepost]
Even if we get the Libertarian and Green ones, I don't like them. Why can't there just be people kinda like Republicans except they care about the environment and don't elect Trump? Maybe Elon Musk would start that.
What you're suggesting is we have a party for every variation there is. Perhaps republicans should just vote for people who care about the environment if thats what right leaning people want.
 
What you're suggesting is we have a party for every variation there is. Perhaps republicans should just vote for people who care about the environment if thats what right leaning people want.
Well they don't, cause they all watch fake news arguing against it. And Democrats who care about the environment are too off in their own world with MSNBC and Huffington Post to get why socialism sucks. The close-mindedness is frustrating. We can't even call college education a good thing anymore without controversy, and I blame both sides for that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Glockworkorange
What question? Do you mean the idiotic suggestion that there’s something wrong with an artist who painted a scene from the Bible that has been depicted by scores of artists over hundreds of years?

A black woman beheading a white woman was in the bible?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Huck
What is your favorite episode of CarPool Karaoke?
I wonder when Apple is going to lay out its plan for TV. Will you have to be an Apple Music subscriber? Content only playable on iPads, iPhones, Apple TV's and through the Safari browser? Desktop iTunes and Apple Music on Android so PC users and Android users can shell out $$$?
 
I wonder when Apple is going to lay out its plan for TV. Will you have to be an Apple Music subscriber? Content only playable on iPads, iPhones, Apple TV's and through the Safari browser? Desktop iTunes and Apple Music on Android so PC users and Android users can shell out $$$?
Let's hope it's smoother than the way they rolled out that U2 album, haha
 
Last edited:
Well they don't, cause they all watch fake news arguing against it. And Democrats who care about the environment are too off in their own world with MSNBC and Huffington Post to get why socialism sucks. The close-mindedness is frustrating. We can't even call college education a good thing anymore without controversy, and I blame both sides for that.
Everyone is in their own echo chamber. A world of knowledge at your fingertips via the internet and people don't leave the comfy confines of the NY Times, HuffPo...except Conservatives. We have to live through the slanted Main Stream Media and then seek out conservative voices for another perspective. Therefore, conservative consumers of news are more well rounded. I challenge all liberals to just spend 10 minutes a day perusing National Review, The Federalist or The Weekly Standard for a fresh perspective
 
I said it's better to ignore them, not talk to them. Honestly I've never encountered a Nazi myself; you kinda have to go out of your way to do that. And for sure if they make any actual threats, they deserve whatever they get.
We don't attack people for hateful words in this country. We don't censor people for hateful opinions, either. If the First Amendment, literally or in spirit, means anything it all, it means the right to express unpopular and yes, often times ugly opinions.
 
I said it's better to ignore them, not talk to them. Honestly I've never encountered a Nazi myself; you kinda have to go out of your way to do that. And for sure if they make any actual threats, they deserve whatever they get.

They were all over the TV, he asked me why nazis were so out in the open and that he throught we got rid of them 70 years ago.
 
LMAO @ Obama haters in their feelings.

My only feeling is joy he is no longer around. I am very, very happy and somewhat shocked he has, for the most part, kept to himself since leaving office.
[doublepost=1526945697][/doublepost]
They were all over the TV, he asked me why nazis were so out in the open and that he throught we got rid of them 70 years ago.

Again, we don't physically attack people we abhor and everyone has a right to voice their opinion, no matter how unpopular. Stewing in rage is not helpful.

It shocks me liberals now scream about "hateful" speech when 30 years ago these were the same people saying a crucifix in a jar of urine was "art" and speech protected by the first amendment (see, "Piss Christ).

Whatever. Far off topic. I won't watch Obama on Netflix.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Huck
LMAO @ Obama haters in their feelings.
I didn’t like him, for plenty of left leaning reasons, but obviously he was better than the **** show president and Christian fundamentalist death cult cabinet he has surrounded himself with.
 
We don't attack people for hateful words in this country. We don't censor people for hateful opinions, either. If the First Amendment, literally or in spirit, means anything it all, it means the right to express unpopular and yes, often times ugly opinions.

Except for the fact that Nazis based on the history and actions of their groups in America their speech could and should be considered threats of violence. If I am openly carrying a gun and saying I want you dead, I want your family dead, I want your relatives dead and My friends and I going to kill you would you still defend my right to free speech?
 
Except for the fact that Nazis based on the history and actions of their groups in America their speech could and should be considered threats of violence. If I am openly carrying a gun and saying I want you dead, I want your family dead, I want your relatives dead and My friends and I going to kill you would you still defend my right to free speech?
Are you American? I ask that seriously, because your understanding of the First Amendment and basic civics is appallingly lacking. I don't have the time or patience to spell it all out for you. Use Google.
 
I said it's better to ignore them, not talk to them. Honestly I've never encountered a Nazi myself; you kinda have to go out of your way to do that. And for sure if they make any actual threats, they deserve whatever they get.

I've seen people with swastika tattoos infrequently in Orange County. Donut shops and sometimes even at Costco. Not really frequently, but frequent enough for me to keep a look out.
[doublepost=1526946115][/doublepost]
LMAO @ Obama haters in their feelings.

I heard that's the secret ingredient in booty sweat.
 
Chances of that being accurate: ZERO. They took the polls from the most populated cities.

How about this one?

49D1BE9D-A545-48E4-AD16-BF65BF501A48.jpeg
 
Netflix, why don't you sign another deal with Hillary Clinton while you are sitting in the room with Obama. That would be MAGA?

then you got two for a price of one sine Bill will also on board.
 
Are you American? I ask that seriously, because your understanding of the First Amendment and basic civics is appallingly lacking. I don't have the time or patience to spell it all out for you. Use Google.

We both knew you wouldn’t answer my question which would have taken less time then saying you don’t have the time or patience. Simple one word answer, yes or no, would you defend someone right to free speech if That person was armed with one or more guns and said he is want to kill you, your family and all your relatives and that day is coming sooner than later?

Oh and even a 1st grade American knows their are limits to free speech like you can’t tell fire in a crowded theater or yell bomb and point to a backpack and then run away.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GermanSuplex
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.