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The left betrayed many of us who believe in secular values they chose to side with a certain religious group and promoting their backward values. As per Obama he is not a good person despite his great smile.

I don’t dislike Obama personally, but the left’s love affair with the most restrictive and violent religion out there is just bizarre. They keep droning on about how horrible Christians are while coming up with every possible excuse in the book for terror attacks motivates by Islamic theology. It’s completely illogical and quite frankly nuts.
 
Obama supported similar people in Ukraine when he wanted to change the regime there.

Not even worth replying to that dribble

Anyone with half a brain knows trump wasn’t referring to white supremacists when he said soMe good people were there, but people who took fundamental issue with ugly history being erased as is now a constant precedent that didn’t exist under the previous administration and has only
Become a top issue with this new administration

This president loves black and Jewish people. I haven’t heard any racist black and anti Semitic remarks ever from him.

And that could easily be a paid protestor. Literally one swa sticka flag. Dude sucks regardless if he’s paid or a fringe Nazi but...

Also screw Richard spencer’s j-crew of Nazi boys. I completely disavow. But also look at how much media hopped All over it and covered that crap wall to wall... But turn a blind eye to daily antifa violence. And BLM violence. It’s awfully suspicious!


Oh and This guy is an incompetent white supremacist:
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Unless your grandfather was Russian he didn’t see any death chambers. All the death camps were liberated by the Soviet Reds. Being American we are supposed to allow others to express their opinions. Hitting people for expressing an opinion, even if vile, is more like the fascists.

If I'm not mistaken, the U.S. liberated Dachau and Buchenwald, and the Brits Bergen-Belsen and at least one other.
 
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You talk about “the left” as if it’s some form of entity which it’s not. There is no such thing as ‘betrayal’ from “the left” or from the “right”. They are both not entities and therefore can’t be hold accountable for such thing as betrayel. They both consist of a collection of individuals who, some more then others, feel somehow connected to “some” of the principle believes that some consider as being typical “left” or “right”.

To state that everying is either “left” or “right” is an over simplification of reality and doesn’t come close to the real reality that upholds way more nuances then simplistic tribalism where everyone is been divided between left or right. The world isn’t black or white, it is also not left and right, despite dogmatic and narrow minded people may state otherwise.
Absolutely!


...But if there is an actual modern civil war, as seems entirely possible given the divisiveness isn’t improving in a lot of ways, there will likely be two sides and not a spectrum of sides.

You can’t just dismiss it as complicated and not draw any observations either. It increasingly is becoming black and white for a lot of people sadly (tho I agree with you, and don’t subscribe to this viewpoint either no matter how people feel about me on this forum): it’s you hate this president, justifiably, or
You’re a Nazi and void of morals
Or logic or brains and cannot be associated with whatsoever Under any circumstances. I see it. Nearly
If not every day. And trump Derangement outbursts that have nothing to do with what is being discussed or
The situation, but I deal! I live in a liberal city.

I would argue the left is way more toxic than the right. I can have civil conversation with lefties friends I trust are decent people, but in general, it’s savagery and I don’t bother without it turning into parroted comments and not
Scratching the surface on anything new. I don’t suspect conservative leaning people treat liberals nearly with the same hostility, on average (tho of course exceptions) and are by their nature more conservative, than liberals
Who assume 100% of
People are on board with whatever whack stuff they say as long as it supports their general stance.

...“Silent” majority aren’t silent for no reason.
 
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You talk about “the left” as if it’s some form of entity which it’s not. There is no such thing as ‘betrayal’ from “the left” or from the “right”. They are both not entities and therefore can’t be hold accountable for such thing as betrayel. They both consist of a collection of individuals who, some more then others, feel somehow connected to “some” of the principles, believed by some, being typical “left” or “right”.

To state that everying is either “left” or “right” is an over simplification of reality that doesn’t come close to the real reality that upholds way more nuances then simplistic tribalism where everyone is been divided between left or right. The world isn’t black or white, it is also not left and right, despite dogmatic and narrow minded people may state otherwise.

It’s a shame that so many people have this over simplistic view on these matters, in this case the subject is about Obama that likes to share the world with some viewpoints of his own about the American society without being judgemental about Trump which is perfectly possible to do so. As a former president it’s, i.m.h.o only interesting to see if Obama can come up with something interesting to watch. Let’s, by all means, not be judgemental about that but rather give an opinion when the content is out there so people can have a valid opinion about it.

True, but I would also like to point out that Obama was not “left”, compared to Europe. I would position him “center right”, compared to Trump who is “far to extreme right”.

I can only imagine the drama and the crying if America had a more left president... More money for the lower incomes, higher taxes for the wealthy, higher minimum wages, health insurance for everyone, decent public transport, investments in green energy, better protection of the environment, upgrades to the educational system, ... the horror!!

Not saying these are domains exclusive for the left, but they’re definitely not on the radar of the current president either.
 
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True, but I would also like to point out that Obama was not “left”. I would position him “center right”, compared to Trump who is “far to extreme right”.

I can only imagine the drama and the crying if America had a more left president... More money for the lower incomes, higher taxes for the wealthy, higher minimum wages, health insurance for everyone, decent public transport, investments in green energy, better protection of the environment, upgrades to the educational system, ... the horror!!

Not saying these are domains exclusive for the left, but they’re definitely not on the radar of the current president either.

Lol obama was a far leftie that worked as hard as possible to deconstruct the West all with such charisma and energy along the way. And was financed and propagated out of thin air for the 2008 election by George Soros , in a theatrical battle of Soros candidate vs Soros candidate (rino mccain) and is far left as you can get, also funding the violent Antifa and Black Lives Matter cells.

And trump was a Manhattan liberal, loved by Hollywood and the media, turned conservative leaning and on the conservative ballot (certainly fiscally conservative) when he ran against the Hill de Beast, out of necessity and survival for our country.

I’m old enough to remember when rappers regularly loved trump and namedropped him in songs positively out of admiration for his wealth and success, not just that “looney bin,
Isolated” Kanye sticking his neck out there in support.
 
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Everything he is accused of, he deflects to Obama and Hillary, as well as others. He's a perpetual, habitual, pathological liar. So, in order to combat those accusations, he accuses the media and everyone else of lying. He's accused of Russian collusion, so he has to accuse Hillary of Russian collusion. Gets accused of being a racist, he accuses Obama of being a racist.

Its a really weak, easy to see through tactic, but it seems to be working for him.
Yep. His bag of tricks is really fairly simple - accuse others of whatever you're doing yourself, lie constantly and repeat those lies over and over, try to yell other people into submission ("I'm going to sue X and Y and Z" seems incredibly common from him over the years, as a tactic to get others to back down), and he's constantly calling people names like a five year old. Unfortunately, too many supporters look up to his aggressive bluster tactics, and too many of his opponents make too many allowances for him, trying to be nice, rather than calling him out on his lies and his bad behavior.
 
Two different flavors of brand, but Far leftie as well

Nothing moderate about either one of those people (clowns imo).

If you can’t see Bernie is far more left than Obama, you’re delusional. But the bigger problem is that an incompetent clown like Trump can be president, and he’s getting away with it.

The whole world is appalled by this clown, he runs the country like a maffia boss, he’s being investigated, pays off porn stars, switches staff faster than underwear and is clearly as corrupt as they come. But the US is too far gone to realise it and his poll numbers are going up.

I’m predicting another win for him this fall. Maybe a second term. And then the US will be bankrupt, while China takes over as the first world power.

Luckily we still have Siri :)
 
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If you can’t see Bernie is far more left than Obama, you’re delusional. But the bigger problem is that an incompetent clown like Trump can be president, and he’s getting away with it.

The whole world is appalled by this clown, he runs the country like a maffia boss, he’s being investigated, pays off porn stars, switches staff faster than under ware and is clearly as corrupt as they come. But the US is too far gone to realise it and his poll numbers are going up.

I’m predicting another win for him this fall. Maybe a second term. And then the US will be bankrupt, while China takes over.

Ok so:
"he runs the country like a mafia boss" is your personal observation of his character, but maybe not even personal since I've heard this repeatedly in the news, not fact. you know this ,right?
"pays off porn stars" only a subject of intense interest for Anderson Cooper. and the media The average American couldn't give a **crap** what he did, for financial matters, surrounding consensual sex. Wouldn't have affected the vote any more or less (less) than the 'pussygrabbing' remark Colbert and all these whackos and sickos pretended to be the final straw of their patience with the man being 'unelectable'

...As a sidenote, independent of political stance, you don't think any politician covers up anything? I'm not condoning it, but I wonder, is that what you actually believe? I'm looking for a gauge of naivety from the general audience. If his greatest most scandalous cover up is for having consensual sex with a trashy porn star, then I find that relatively benign in the scheme of things and we've had a long departure and fall from the Russia narrative which wasn't that great to begin with.

"switches staff faster than underwear" this is true, but if they aren't doing the job, are they martyrs or just fired people who couldn't cut it? Lots of people against this president, or incompetent, or both. I don't hold it against boss man of USA to not keep globalists and pushovers in his cabinet. A climate has also been created where people don't wanna work for Trump because they and their families are harassed to no end by the media until they resign, if they aren't fired for not being able to do what it takes to un-do the madness of the past decade (but well over that)

Are you now a fan of Sean Spicer, the Mooch, Hope Hicks, Bannon, Comey (prolly so here), now that they are no longer under Trump? Is that what it takes for you to show your bipartisanship?

"is clearly as corrupt as they come" again, nothing you've said in this post has substantiated that for me.

"But the US is gone too far" -- subjective, I would argue leftists have lost any semblance of appreciation for fact, and virtually everything has become rooted in emotions
"his poll numbers are going up" -- the only thing I can't argue with

All I know is the quantifiable anger towards this president, which is truly unprecedented, in such a short period of time of his term, of which I think he has more 'W's than' L's (and I hope so too, USA is the one I'm rooting for.. I dunno about you) for as many people as are against him and as relentless the media is in making it seem like being a supporter of the guy is the craziest thing ever and those people are pure scum and nothing else.
 
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Two different flavors of brand, but Far leftie as well

Nothing moderate about either one of those people (clowns imo).

Lol, if Obama was a far leftie, where would you position Bernie???

The "real" problem in my humble opinion as an outsider in this, being Dutch myself, is that the American political system has been polarized in an extremely simplistic fashion. For me, being an outsider, it's hard to comprehend that a nation that speaks about being 'democratic' are left with either a choice on a Republican or a Democrat politician, and sometimes, in rare occasions, having a third choice when another, often very rich, contender enters the (political) arena.

How people can narrow down political views in a plural society such as in America, which consist of millions and millions of individuals, in just two parties intrigues me. Let alone that both parties have to deal with very powerful and highly effective lobbyist, political movements and/or other groups I forgot to mention like the NRA, religious groups, the tea party, etc. I truly think that within the current simplistic state America is in right now, a divided nation between Republicans and Democrats, and the high level of polarisation between the two groups there is not many nuances left to exist which does, and should, exist in a 'true' democracy where people can choose from various parties with various viewpoints on things. Just like any plural society itself, politics can't really be divided into just two groups. It's too simplistic in my humble opinion and it doesn't do justice to the more sophisticated (political) viewpoints and lot's of nuances that many voters themselves do have on various topics.

In my country, as an example, The Netherlands, we have various political parties, and you don't have to be rich in order to create a new political party. There is no such thing here as one party ruling the rest. Cooperation between various parties is essential in order to form a government. So what you get is several viewpoints mixed together and a consensus that everyone needs to respect different viewpoints to some degree in order to cooperate with each other. So even an "ultra" "left" or "right" party can't dominate the opponent or the other side. So basically, the harder a politician shouts how bad the other politician is or politicians are the harder he or she must take back his or her statements if being elected as the leader of the biggest party in order to work it all out which doesn't work when you're calling each other bad names...

I wish American had such a system as well because with just a two party system you're either this or that and that doesn't reflect the more complexed plural society at all.

That alone makes me curious how Obama, where this subject is about, to begin with, deals with various viewpoints on the American society and how he looks at them. So I welcome this Netflix series, just to see what he has to say about this all.

p.s. I'm sorry for my bad grammar or English. If I sound like a drunk Swedish rabbit it's because I'm Dutch so I'm not that familiar with the English language.
 
Don't the Obamas already have a deal to produce 99.98% of the content on ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, ESPN, and HBO?
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Ok so:
"he runs the country like a mafia boss" is your personal observation of his character, but maybe not even personal since I've heard this repeatedly in the news, not fact. you know this ,right?
"pays off porn stars" only a subject of intense interest for Anderson Cooper. and the media The average American couldn't give a **crap** what he did, for financial matters, surrounding consensual sex. Wouldn't have affected the vote any more or less (less) than the 'pussygrabbing' remark Colbert and all these whackos and sickos pretended to be the final straw of their patience with the man being 'unelectable'

...As a sidenote, independent of political stance, you don't think any politician covers up anything? I'm not condoning it, but I wonder, is that what you actually believe? I'm looking for a gauge of naivety from the general audience. If his greatest most scandalous cover up is for having consensual sex with a trashy porn star, then I find that relatively benign in the scheme of things and we've had a long departure and fall from the Russia narrative which wasn't that great to begin with.

"switches staff faster than underwear" this is true, but if they aren't doing the job, are they martyrs or just fired people who couldn't cut it? Lots of people against this president, or incompetent, or both. I don't hold it against boss man of USA to not keep globalists and pushovers in his cabinet. A climate has also been created where people don't wanna work for Trump because they and their families are harassed to no end by the media until they resign, if they aren't fired for not being able to do what it takes to un-do the madness of the past decade (but well over that)

Are you now a fan of Sean Spicer, the Mooch, Hope Hicks, Bannon, Comey (prolly so here), now that they are no longer under Trump? Is that what it takes for you to show your bipartisanship?

"is clearly as corrupt as they come" again, nothing you've said in this post has substantiated that for me.

"But the US is gone too far" -- subjective, I would argue leftists have lost any semblance of appreciation for fact, and virtually everything has become rooted in emotions
"his poll numbers are going up" -- the only thing I can't argue with

All I know is the quantifiable anger towards this president, which is truly unprecedented, in such a short period of time of his term, of which I think he has more 'W's than' L's (and I hope so too, USA is the one I'm rooting for.. I dunno about you) for as many people as are against him and as relentless the media is in making it seem like being a supporter of the guy is the craziest thing ever and those people are pure scum and nothing else.
I think the word I'm looking for is...

BAM!

Well said, sir. Well said.
 
Apple Loses Out as Netflix Inks Content Deal With Former President Obama

Apple America Loses Out as Netflix Inks Content Deal With Former President Obama
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Either way will be refreshing to hear again from Obama.

We'll be hearing from Barack Obama again soon enough. Either at his criminal trial or in YouTube videos from exile in a non-extradition state.

This is a poisoned chalice for Netflix, as Obama is about to become the most despised political criminal in American history.
 
There is why Netflix has good relationships. They can often get content faster than others can.
 
We'll be hearing from Barack Obama again soon enough. Either at his criminal trial or in YouTube videos from exile in a non-extradition state.

This is a poisoned chalice for Netflix, as Obama is about to become the most despised political criminal in American history.

Wow! Such drama, such hyperbole... What criminal trial? You do know you need to turn off Fox News from time to time? Or you will completely lose touch with reality.

Also, a person can only digest so much hypocrisy. For example, when Obama wanted to talk with North-Korea, Fox News claimed it was criminal. And now when Trump is doing the same, he deserves the Nobel Price. See how that goes?

But just to be sure we're all on the same page:
Fact: Clinton will not be locked up.
Fact: There will not be any criminal trials for Obama.
Fact: the current president IS under investigation.
Fact: the current president is involved with porn stars, paying them bribes and lying about it.
Fact: the cabinet of the current president is so incompetent it makes my brain hurt.
 
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Once you realize all these people are going down soon (O, Netflix, Goog, Facebook, Twitter, everyone affiliated) and how Tim Cook keeps meeting with Trump and is privy to this info, you'll all begin to see. You are all a part of a magic show, and nothing is as it seems.
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The drama, the hyperbole. What criminal trial? You do know you need to turn off Fox News from time to time? Or you will completely lose touch with reality.

Also, a person can also digest so much hypocrisie. For example, when Obama wanted to talk with North-Korea, Fox News claimed it was criminal. And now when Trump is doing the same, he deserves the Nobel Price. See how that goes?

But just be sure we're all on the same page:
Fact: Clinton will not be locked up.
Fact: There will not be any criminal trials for Obama.
Fact: the current president IS under investigation.
Fact: the current president is involved with porn stars, paying them bribes and lying about it.
Fact: the cabinet of the current president is so incompetent it makes my brain hurt.

I screen shotted this post, because it's going to be classic. Everything you know or believe is a lie, and literally, this week, is crumbling before your very eyes.
 
Its deflection, and projection. Person of Color gets elected president, the racists come out in droves, like cockroaches with the lights on. So, in order to combat their racism (its amazing how so many racists are ok with speaking the words and doing the actions of racism, but hate the label), they in turn need to accuse Obama of being a racist.

Drumpf has turned this up to a new level. Everything he is accused of, he deflects to Obama and Hillary, as well as others. He's a perpetual, habitual, pathological liar. So, in order to combat those accusations, he accuses the media and everyone else of lying. He's accused of Russian collusion, so he has to accuse Hillary of Russian collusion. Gets accused of being a racist, he accuses Obama of being a racist.

Its a really weak, easy to see through tactic, but it seems to be working for him.

You need to step outside yourself, and do your own research apart from the MSM. This post of yours is very sad, and very telling about how you decipher information. The Man who won awards from the NAACP and now has the lowest unemployment for miniorities in history is not racist. You are believing a one sided media spin machine that fits your confirmation bias and rage for your team losing an election. You are going to be very embarrassed soon when it fully comes out what your 'team' participated in to perpetuate this lie.
 
You need to step outside yourself, and do your own research apart from the MSM. This post of yours is very sad, and very telling about how you decipher information. The Man who won awards from the NAACP and now has the lowest unemployment for miniorities in history is not racist. You are believing a one sided media spin machine that fits your confirmation bias and rage for your team losing an election. You are going to be very embarrassed soon when it fully comes out what your 'team' participated in to perpetuate this lie.

Ah, quite the ironic post. MSM, lost an election, media spin...

Next!
 
You do know that those “decapitation” portraits showed a scene from the Bible, right? The same scene portrayed by many artists over the last 500 years?

Fringe Republicans and Trump supports have an outstanding ability to use selective outrage to feed their twisted world ideology. One example, the Benghazi vs the Russia investigations. Enough said.
 
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