Most people already have these cables already and they are inexpensive to obtain.While limiting box size and earpods is good for the environment, so is printing fewer bills and making fewer digital transactions
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Apple Lowers Price of EarPods by $10 Now That They Aren't Included With iPhones
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Don't throw sand to my eyes!!! If what they really wanted was to save the environment then they would give the option to anyone who bought the phone to pick a charger for free at an apple store or an authorized service provider. What they are actually doing is marketing a new channel of profitability has a return on the environment.
About half of these are in my house right now, and I still never can find one when I need it.
Removing these item from the box, definitely mostly related to cost savings, but we can’t deny either that there are environmental benefits here too.
Lowering the price a token gesture to consumers, but something nonetheless.
Lowering the price a token gesture to consumers, but something nonetheless.
No included headphones or wall charger. iPhone is same great price. Discount needs to be in the phone.
Well, at least it's not like Apple hurts the environment by making you buy a million dongles for their products because they don't have enough ports..... oh wait...
Um, no. They raised the price by $100. Creating a smaller phone and slapping the old entry level iPhone 11 price point on it isn't keeping the same great price at all.
And whoever argues that "the display and 5G warrants that!", I hope you stub your toe.
The iPhone 12 display is four generations over due and found on a $50 tracphone.
A bad argument. What about when they created the larger device (XR in 2018) and slapped the lower price on it? People who wanted a small iPhone had to jump to the ultra-premium XS line just to get a kinda-reasonably sized device. “That isn’t keeping the same great price at all.” The 12 mini is what should be at that price-point.
Well, no one has seen the display, but if—as advertised—it is “Super Retina XDR” quality like the iPhone 11 Pro it beats many competing displays on colour accuracy, brightness, and longevity. I’ve seen so many burned-in Galaxys and Pixels at just two-to-three years old, iPhone OLEDs last longer; I couldn’t say why, could be the pre-selection, could be software management, but they do.
Because in the next 5 years, you will be using USB-C charger, guaranteed. and that USB-C charger will be charging more devices than your USB-A.
Fanboy for speaking the truth?
iPhone 12 5G may hit Apple margins despite removing headphones and charger - 9to5Mac
On the heels of Apple unveiling the iPhone 12 with 5G and other upgrades, a new analyst note from Barclays...
9to5mac.com
Search for my post history. I've bashed Apple many times, especially for the awful TV+ service. Removing EarPods is not a legitimate reason for bashing Apple.
Everyone who thinks Apple is greedy and has been disagreeing with me:
9to5mac.com
I rest my case.
iPhone 12 5G may hit Apple margins despite removing headphones and charger - 9to5Mac
On the heels of Apple unveiling the iPhone 12 with 5G and other upgrades, a new analyst note from Barclays...
9to5mac.com
I rest my case.
Doesn’t help me now does it? Which is why some sort of credit system for both EarPods and plug from one of the worlds most valuable companies, would allow them to still ship thin boxes and help the environment, whilst not pissing off ALL their customers. The fanboys will always love whatever Apple does. I’ve used Macs since 88, wouldn’t use anything else but I can still recognise when the F up. Just like they did when they removed the headphone jacks. Courage... I digress.
Anyway, then it means that those who have USB-A chargers and either broken EarPods or no EarPods at all, can choose to pick them up or have them shipped separately. Those who don’t want them, save the environment. I’d even pay a couple of quid if necessary but not nigh on £20! And then Apple could even offer to recycle all the old USB-A plugs if they really wanted to. It’s just blatant profiteering, masquerading as Apple saving the planet. $hite!
Let’s not forget, there are adapters and dongles for nearly everything. Apple love the profits that the plastic generates for them, I’m sure.
UPDATE: And their margins take a hit every year, yet they’re still one of the most valuable companies in the world! Is that the sound of the worlds smallest violin playing somewhere? They’re sitting on billions FFS! 😂
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So...your argument is "Apple, just give up more of your already small margins" which I disagree. It's not Apple's job to give out free s***.
If they include EarPods, they'll be taking away budget from elsewhere. Maybe they'll take away the new ProRaw feature and save it for next year. Taking away a feature from everyone just because you couldn't afford $19 EarPods? No thanks.
People actually like Earpods?
Apple dropped the price by $10, but raised the iPhone 12 prices about $100 compared to the iPhone 11 prices and then increase it another $30 when priced at Apple's website?
With Apple, it's always 'Buy this, buy that!' with the nickel and diming of its customers.
Yet people continue buying Apple products.
Apple dropped the price by $10, but raised the iPhone 12 prices about $100 compared to the iPhone 11 prices and then increase it another $30 when priced at Apple's website?
With Apple, it's always 'Buy this, buy that!' with the nickel and diming of its customers.
Yet people continue buying Apple products.
Which basically negates the whole part about Apple saying that it was done because people already have the power adapters that they need and there isn't a need to include one now (even though it's not what the new cable would work with and not what they supposedly would be expecting people to transition to by that statement).
Hang on a sec. Who do you think you are? Your coming across like a knob. I can afford the EarPods. If we were speaking face to face, I’m sure you’d come across differently. If not, you’ll probably end up on the wrong side of someone at some point so good luck. If I’ve misread you, I’m sorry.
Assuming I can’t afford the £19 EarPods is a bit lazy and blinkered but that’s just my opinion. The charging plug and headphones have been bundled since I bought my first iPhone in 2007... It didn’t hit their profit margins then. I get things progress but every year they release NEW and IMPROVED iPhones, the best they’ve ever done at the forefront of technical boundaries etc etc. Every year! Is that good for the environment? Nope.
Believe it or not, people are still going to be buying their first iPhone in 2020. Do you remember a time when Apple stuff just worked and you didn’t need additional software or accessories? Supposing my 80-odd year old dad just bought his first iPhone in a couple of weeks instead of a few months ago? He’d be like, how do I charge this thing? Oh, you can’t Dad. You need a charger first or a computer. Well you got a plug and I need to charge it to use it so what good is that?! Try explaining USB-C and A and whatever else, to an 80-odd year old bloke. He’d laugh you out the room and just hand it back. He might not be an important demographic for Apple, but it’s reputation as a company that makes products that just work, out of the box is a tad at risk don’t you think?
I didn't mean you literally can't afford it. But your stance on this feels like the cost of $19 EarPods is causing you so much distress.
Not sure if you saw my link or not in one of my previous posts:
iPhone 12 5G may hit Apple margins despite removing headphones and charger - 9to5Mac
On the heels of Apple unveiling the iPhone 12 with 5G and other upgrades, a new analyst note from Barclays...
9to5mac.com
5G is already eating into their margins substantially. Removing EarPods is the least that apple could do.
Side note: I've said it in the past that Apple suing Qualcomm was a good thing. People bashed Apple for doing that (and ultimately called me a fanboy for defending Apple), but now I'm starting to see the same people bash Apple again for removing EarPods/charger. Can't have it both ways. They should have rooted for Apple to continue the lawsuit so that Qualcomm's royalties would be fair.
Plain and simple: Apple would charge more $$$ if they included the charger and EarPods. Majority of the people don't need them, but they're punished for it.
All the more reasons to completely remove USB-A from the world and accelerate USB-C adoption so that customers will only have to think about USB-C (next will be removing lightning from the world).
All the more reasons then to also include a USB-C power adapter at the very least in the first year when things are being switched to use a USB-C cable.
This is a straw-man. Some baseless generalized statement. How do you know that Apple didn't strike a deal and in fact the earpods cost less to produce and Apple is passing on the cost of the savings to their customers? There is a lot of opinion out there, and no facts, since nothing came officially from Apple.
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Or you could just use your existing USB chargers and existing USB-lightning cables?
And have them charge the phone quite a bit longer, all while you pay what you pay for the phone and get less than you got for it all before.
Well if you want a new higher power charger, then go and buy one and stop complaining.