Ok, good. I also wish they made the cable a little stronger. It can break at the slightest snag. Mine lasted 2 years and the one time i got caught in a bad place, the outer jacket ripped and there was no recovering from that.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Lowers Price of EarPods by $10 Now That They Aren't Included With iPhones
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
It not as if they only last a couple of years and then you need a new pair, oh, wait, they don't last.
I don't have any spare pairs of apple earphones but I do have many chargers.
Chargers I can swallow as good for the environment, earphones is just a cash grab. Just like storage/memory at apple is a cash grab
Lol, seeing you're pretty busy typing all those words defending Apple. Guess your fingers must be tired. So I just suggest you relax and give it a break that's all
.
Dude I’ve been accused to be a fanboy in the recent past, several times, and maybe I am. But you are going far beyond that...
It’s not a bad thing if you are in the market for a pair of earpods. Why somebody would choose those overpriced and subpar earphones over any of the competition offerings is beyond me, but that’s a different matter.
What is bad is that apple no longer includes these with a very expensive piece of hardware, citing only environmental concern as the cause of the decision, and is pocketing the difference.
Exactly. At the end of the, day does it matter why Apple choose to do it, if the upshot is good for the environment?
Maybe they are pocketing the extra cash and from their perspective it's a simple increase of the profit margin and a minor PR push about being green. But the net effect is still millions fewer pointless plastic earbuds being produced. Thats's good whatever Apple's intentions are.
But who cares? Why does it bother you if Apple pockets the difference? It doesn't make the environmental claim untrue.
A product or service has to increase in price to offest the reduction in price of a product or service, that way making sure the company does not lose out. Apple maybe reducing the price of the earpods but another product of theirs will have increased in price to offset the $10 reduction of the earpods.
But...a lot of people aren't able to start their day without having at least one good moan in the morning.
This is a ridiculously simplistic take on how a behemoth company like Apple views revenue.
The reduction in the size of the boxes and the fact that they can now fit more iPhones into trucks, so will now pay significantly lower transportation costs, will in itself save them that $10 per unit.
They may also calculate that the overall cost of manufacturing millions of EarPods and putting them in the boxes was around $10 per iPhone sold, so by not doing that they're also making back the discounted price of the standalone EarPods.
It's obviously not as simple as take $10 off one thing, add $10 to another thing. That's like the lemonade stall version of corporate PnL.
I’d care if I had to buy separate earphones (they now have to be usbc or lighting because “courage”) that would cost me 20 bucks so that apple can increase their margins by a few cents (I don’t think the production cost would be very high) and claim to do that just for the environment. I’d call that hipocrisy.
Some people care because the tactic being employed by Apple is a tactic that has been and is currenty used by maunfacturers of consumer products for decades. The way it works is that the manufacturer wants to set a high price for the main item but when the price of any extra's that accompany the main item are added to complete the product, the total price of the product is percieved as being undersirable to the consumer and thus they would not purchase the product.
So what the manufacturer does is keep the main item priced high but within a price range they think the consumer will still be happy with but remove the extra's and sell the extra's as individual items at a reduced cost. This gives the impression that the consumer is getting a good deal when in fact they are not.
There are specialist psychologists out there who are hired by companies to see how the consumer can be manipulated into thinking that they are getting a good deal. They use tricks of the trade into getting the consumer to believe that what they are seeing is good value for money when the opposite is true. Supermarkets are the biggest user of these specialist psychologists and there have been programs on the television that have exposed these practices. I have no doubt Apple employ such people.
I'm glad the headphones are gone. I literally don't think anyone I know uses those crappy headphones any more.
I feel more negative on the charger though, especially because the cord has a usb-c connector. Lots of people don't have usb-c chargers.
I feel more negative on the charger though, especially because the cord has a usb-c connector. Lots of people don't have usb-c chargers.
I really don't get people defending Apple on this no-charger option.
I live in Europe, my previous iPhones are usually passed to my family (parents, parents-in-law, cousins, etc.) and i give them the cables and chargers. I have few chargers available. The ones i have (from Apple Watch, old iPads, etc.) are ALL USB-A ....
I only have one USB-C charger, from my more recent iPadPro 2018 .... so i would have to share this one (which is something i don't like). Also, my Macbook Pro DOES NOT has USB-C.
I won't care about the headphones, actually.
But the no-charger is just a bad customer experience when you buy a new product. It's Apple being a bean-counter company and not a product-company.
Apple should GIVE AWAY the charger if requested by the customer on the purchase on the a new iPhone 12. Anything else is just PURE GREEDY.
I live in Europe, my previous iPhones are usually passed to my family (parents, parents-in-law, cousins, etc.) and i give them the cables and chargers. I have few chargers available. The ones i have (from Apple Watch, old iPads, etc.) are ALL USB-A ....
I only have one USB-C charger, from my more recent iPadPro 2018 .... so i would have to share this one (which is something i don't like). Also, my Macbook Pro DOES NOT has USB-C.
I won't care about the headphones, actually.
But the no-charger is just a bad customer experience when you buy a new product. It's Apple being a bean-counter company and not a product-company.
Apple should GIVE AWAY the charger if requested by the customer on the purchase on the a new iPhone 12. Anything else is just PURE GREEDY.
So many gullible Apple defenders here. Complete BS the way they’re passing it off as environmentally friendly. They’re penny pinching and it’s embarrassingly transparent. Give us a voucher to get our charger or EarPods if we want.
Reminds me of when they no longer included the longer cable with the MacBook pros. was that for the environment too?
will the new silicon MacBooks also have no charger ? Everyone uses USB C right ? Just throw in a cable.
Reminds me of when they no longer included the longer cable with the MacBook pros. was that for the environment too?
will the new silicon MacBooks also have no charger ? Everyone uses USB C right ? Just throw in a cable.
I am tired of crap that I don't use taking up space at my house. And I don't just want to throw it in the garbage as it is so bad for the environment. So I'll have to recycle it. Why would I want to get something, that I will have to put effort to recycle almost immediately? If someone just does not give it to me, that's less burden.
That's wrong, there is no basic business principals stating as such.
