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Congratulations, you just re-bought the last 14.4K bps modem while everyone else was going to Ethernet.

Maybe not the best analogy.
Ethernet has a range of 50-100m conditions willing.
A modem is good for +50Km.
Everyone might have gone ethernet but not sure where they are plugging in...

can we get copy and paste?
You need to catch up...
Today it's all about getting better copy and paste.
 
Please provide sources.

Just read any thread here that talks about Apple's profits, etc. Everyone here is happy when Apple makes a lot of money. The more, the better. It allows Apple to stay ahead of the competition and make good products. It is good for us to pay more for Apple products because they make some really great items.
 
Might as well buy the iPhone 4 now then, probably get my contract finished earlier too if the next iPhone won't have a bigger screen..
 
...people with iPhone 4's will say it's a lame upgrade and they're glad they'll be getting the LTE release next year...

...the 3G and 3GS crowd will say that the 3G network is the greatest thing to ever happen to man and anything beyond it would just be shameless excess...

...this year's model will be called the same number as the iOS that comes pre-installed on it... Hmm...

...oh and there will be some (mostly) irrelevant manufacturing issue that will get blown completely out of proportion.

For the record I've got an iPhone 4 and I'm glad I'll be getting the LTE model next year... I hope they call it an iPhone Pro just to piss you 3GSers off! :p

How about this... I got an iPhone 4 and I'm not sure we should be happy that our upgrade (probably) will get LTE.

Think of it this way, AT&T will probably force you off the grandfathered unlimited if you get the 4G network and will insist that if you get the new phone you gotta get a 4G plan (hey, Sprint did it with the Evo even if they didn't have 4G in your area).

I'd personally like to keep my unlimited over get the 4G network.
 
wait I don't get it.
Why do people want "bigger screen".
Does this mean fragmentation of apps?

Actually, I do hope we get something like QHD, to have a nice 16:9 ratio......
Movies are better with widescreen IMHO.
And I hope in future iterations of ipad, we get 1280x800 too.......
 
Your spiffy new A5 (which really isn't that great of a processor, compared to a lot of what's already in the Android universe)

That is funny. Yet no of these Android phones can scroll a list of programs WITHOUT stuttering. Sad truth about state of things in the android world.
 
If you are the sort of person that upgrades their phone each year then I can imagine that the 4GS isn't going to be very exciting for someone with a 4G. However, I still have my 3GS and that struggles today with iOS 4 so I'm very much looking forward to the 4GS later this year. There's a lot that I like in the current 4G so it all looks good to me.

I'm also pretty sure that the UK doesn't have LTE (certainly not in my area) so I really couldn't care less about it. 3G is honestly fine and I'd rather have longer battery life.
 
if the next iphone is going to be LTE, i would assume that apple is jumping beds from att and going to a bigger better bed with verizon. att is not even ready for LTE so for people who would purchase the next iphone would not see the benefits of LTE unless they have verizon. heck, metropcs got LTE before att. att is now playing catch up in the mobile network game and it only seems right for apple to now treat att is the red headed step child and do more courting with verizon.
 
Your spiffy new A5 (which really isn't that great of a processor, compared to a lot of what's already in the Android universe) won't make a whit of difference when every app being released is designed to support the A-4 and millions of iP4 users.

And yet the benchmarks of the A5 have it destroying Tegra 2 based Android solutions...

Ya, sure looks like the A5 gets trounced by those pesky Android devices :rolleyes:

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Nicely provided ptysell, was going to track them down but you've saved me the effort!

I'm also pretty sure that the UK doesn't have LTE (certainly not in my area) so I really couldn't care less about it. 3G is honestly fine and I'd rather have longer battery life.

This.


LTE/4G really isn't mature. As far as I'm aware the UK is still only "planning" the rollout of LTE - there have been some trials, but an LTE iPhone would be in no better a situation than one with just 3G. The same may be true for many of the other regions in which the iPhone is sold. The original iPhone not having 3G was an issue because it was mature at the time - the chipsets may not have been power efficient according to El Jobso. But LTE/4G just isn't that prevalent in the world. 2012 makes a lot more sense to me.

An "iPhone 4S" (or whatever they go for) with an A5 processor, 8MP camera, revised antenna layout, a bigger-but same resolution screen all fitting in the still beautiful iPhone 4 body is enough of an upgrade. And the little matter of iOS5 which people seem to be overlooking in their "specs quest"...
 
So again,

It will be called an iPhone 4S.
It will still have 16/32 possibly 64GB storage.
It will still run a topped up version of iOS 4.
The CPU & GPU will be clocked higher with a possible die-shrink.
New SIMs for a Slimmer iPhone?

I think the 'S' status will now have a meaning..
 
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tigress666 said:
...people with iPhone 4's will say it's a lame upgrade and they're glad they'll be getting the LTE release next year...

...the 3G and 3GS crowd will say that the 3G network is the greatest thing to ever happen to man and anything beyond it would just be shameless excess...

...this year's model will be called the same number as the iOS that comes pre-installed on it... Hmm...

...oh and there will be some (mostly) irrelevant manufacturing issue that will get blown completely out of proportion.

For the record I've got an iPhone 4 and I'm glad I'll be getting the LTE model next year... I hope they call it an iPhone Pro just to piss you 3GSers off! :p

How about this... I got an iPhone 4 and I'm not sure we should be happy that our upgrade (probably) will get LTE.

Think of it this way, AT&T will probably force you off the grandfathered unlimited if you get the 4G network and will insist that if you get the new phone you gotta get a 4G plan (hey, Sprint did it with the Evo even if they didn't have 4G in your area).

I'd personally like to keep my unlimited over get the 4G network.

QFT. Give me my so-called slow plan with 2 Mbps / 1 Mbps - unlimited rather than a set in stone hard cap that will likely come with 4G.
 
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I'm still thinking that this year's iPhone will be called iPhone 5, whether or not it's a substantial hardware update or not. They need to do something substantial with the OS and that will be iOS 5. They need a 5 name simply for congruency. So what would allow enough of a hardware change to call it iPhone 5? Anything besides a camera bump or A5 alone. NFC by itself would be enough. A screen size change would be enough on it's own for sure. Thunderbolt is cutting it close.
 
So again,

It will be called an iPhone 4S.
It will still have 16/32 possibly 64GB storage.
It will still run a topped up version of iOS 4.
The CPU & GPU will be clocked higher with a possible die-shrink.
New SIMs for a Slimmer iPhone?

I think the 'S' status will now have a meaning..

ahahahahaahahahahahahahaahhaahahahaha
 
But will it blend?

This is really what I want to know! :p

I'm good with waiting for 4G. Means nothing to me anyway. There is no 4G service near me yet. Not that it wouldn't be nice, but someone else said it and I have to agree... It's a phone and it's small, so 3G is good for now and maybe Apple will wait long enough the chips won't be battery hogs. I'd much rather have a phone that works all day than the fastest phone ton a dead battery.
 
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QFT. Give me my so-called slow plan with 2 Mbps / 1 Mbps - unlimited rather than a set in stone hard cap that will likely come with 4G.

Hummm... Yeah, I'd agree with this. For me, the iPhone only gets used for quick Internet checks and mostly email on the run (besides calls). I think 4g and unlimited data is more of an issue for devices like the iPad where you can do more because of the larger screen.

I know there are people who want to stream movies all the time on their phone, but I think that's the minority of users. There's a lot o hype about some features that would be nice, but not really needed.

I'm not sure I'm making sense this morning... Not enough coffee yet... I need a 4G coffee pot! :D
 
Might as well buy the iPhone 4 now then, probably get my contract finished earlier too if the next iPhone won't have a bigger screen..

Apple should just add a phone to the iPad and call it the iPhone Jumbo. :p

Then you'd have The biggest screen ever on a smart phone! Or a smart Pad?

Hummm... Thinking of it, if there was a way to merry an iPhone to an iPad so that when I'm at home and on my iPad I could just answer calls on the iPad, that would be a very cool feature. One phone account, but two devices that could take the call. :)
 
I'm getting fairly pissed off with this stream of rumors of what the 2012 will have that the 2011 one won't.

Surely in the 15 months between the 2011 iPhone and the iPhone 4 releases Apple worked on more than just the color white and Verizon.

Tell me the 2011 iPhone will have something so I can actually stick with my 3GS these 3 extra months rather than just jump to the 4 at the end of my contract.
 
I'm happy to say I don't care about phones anymore. Once my ip4 contract ends, I'll be sticking an unlimited data sim in it and using it as a glorified wireless modem.

Happy days!
 
That is funny. Yet no of these Android phones can scroll a list of programs WITHOUT stuttering. Sad truth about state of things in the android world.

I'm curious... Is it possible to code 3D apps on android using something other than Java? Is it possible to use C?
 
IMO the reason 3g/s users should upgrade to a iphone 4s is for ios5. Which I think will trully be the bread and butter this year in the mobile world.

I upgrade my phone every year, family of 4 so I renew someones contract, pay the fee, give them my old phone, and always get the new one :) I AM looking forward to 4S.

I played with the Atrix yesterday, WOW, very responsive.

As for naming conventions, the way I see it is, Iphone 4 > Iphone 4S > Iphone 4G(or Iphone LTE). For a computer, I feel they can get away with the same names, Imac, Macbook, but for mobile devices, i believe you always need new names as to not appear stagnant.

Once again; IMO.
 
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