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The copy cats have no shame. Trying to look like a Mac is not going to make that Windows crap run any better. LOL!

Just because it has a black border around the screen and black keys doesn't make it an exact copy...

Edit: Wow at all the people who disliked this post and think Apple was the first with that design...
 
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Maybe they're having a bad year? Call me when Apple reaches the top 5 PC Vendors Worldwide. :p

In the last quarter, Apple already had about 12.5% of world wide revenue in the PC market. So by revenue, they are about number 3 world wide. Now by profit, it's very close between HP and Apple who is number 1 world wide.

In addition, Apple's iPad revenue, which doesn't count as "PC shipments", is again somewhere between 11% and 12% of the world wide PC revenue.

Now if we counted "PCs and tablets of $499 and more", I think Apple just might be #1 world wide already.
 
Poor HP, lost 25% of their sales in one year :0 For me, thats (sic) remarkable.

Part of that may have been due to the CEO at the time publicly saying, "I want to flush this turd product line." IBM, unlike HP, put a ruler on the graph and saw where the PC market was headed in 2002 and decided to sell the division while it had some value.

Some say Apple computers last 2x as long as PCs, though I wouldnt (sic) put it as high as that. That means that between roughly 12% and 20% of all computers in active use are from Apple :0 (allowing for the fact that apple sold fewer computers in previous years)

Apple products easily last far longer than most other computers. Enough so that any "Apple tax" is washed away by the difference in longevity. That Snow Leopard and Lion don't run on ancient RISC computers (mostly pre 2006) is a source of irritation to owners of those old work-horses since Macs hardly ever die. (I actually never have had one die and I started with the very first Mac)

My main laptop is a late 2006 MBP w/2G of RAM run's as well as it did in 2006; only now beginning to seem ready to replace with something faster and with more RAM. That means it has cost me $345 a year to own. That's good value in my eyes.

Of course, I could keep using my old laptop and buy an iPad to give me high portability and still have most of the utility of my laptop. With the iCloud I can sync everything so I can do the bulk of my keyboarding on my new iMac or old MBP and enjoy the best possible portability and best possible desk unit. I love having these kinds of choices!
 
2011 was a watershed year for Apple. The tree is beginning to bear fruit. At this point in the game it's Apple's game to lose. And by the looks of it, Apple's in it for the long haul, with the aim of being the biggest and most influential force in consumer tech (on top of what they're already accomplishing in this area.) And the good news is, it's not based on extortion. It's not based on lazy universal licensing. It's not based on illegal behaviour. It's not based on pushing massive amounts of volume on the cheap. It's based on strength of product, and the kind of quality that comes from shaping the user experience from cradle to grave. How do consumers react? They respond wit enthusiasm because Apple is delighting the hell out of them. This is how it should be.

That's right: a successful vertical business model is lighting the way for the industry. Finally. And what we're seeing now is just the tip of the iceberg.

After all, we're already seeing the effects. Most of the industry initiatives, product directions and announcements are responses to Apple, or anticipation of what Apple might do in the future. This is more or less unprecedented, at least in recent memory.
 
And the companies that price their products the same as a joke, or lower, don't make as much money. Why should Apple do likewise? Forget the 1% and the 99%, the top 20% are the customers with enough money to buy nicer stuff.

That's why Apple store's sales per square meter of floor averages better than both Walmart and Tiffany's.

The MBP is priced out of the market. The Mac Pro is on its deathbed, no ones buying them.

MBP comes with bargain bin GPU and charity store RAM. - FACT

Anyone with half a brain can see that Apple is just taking the piss with pricing, the MBP has shot up in price from a few years ago. Luckily for Apple the world is full of dumb technophobes who cant even format a hard drive.

Standing in an Apple store you can see them.

Truth is though they arent the people spending £2k on a notebook.

And the people spending £2k on a notebook are getting tired of Apples mediocre specced "High end" notebooks. Especially when they cost what Apple are trying to charge.

Thankfully other notebook makers are catching up and windows 8 shows potential so lets hope competition does its job.
 
And the people spending £2k on a notebook are getting tired of Apples mediocre specced "High end" notebooks. Especially when they cost what Apple are trying to charge

How do people like you react to record Mac sales, quarter after quarter? It's been this way for years now. You can expect the same in a couple of weeks.

Just recently:

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/1...unbelievable-in-face-of-ipad-cannibalization/

Consumers are getting tired of Apple's notebooks? :confused:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/1956...sh_in_the_fourth_quarter_but_apple_sales_jump

Macs have actually sold in greater numbers even during a recession. Apple is the only one experiencing any growth in this area. The chart tells all. And this comes as no surprise.

Apple is experiencing the biggest Mac market share increase to date. It isn't chimpanzees or divine grace that are helping them do that. It's consumers.
 
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In the last quarter, Apple already had about 12.5% of world wide revenue in the PC market. So by revenue, they are about number 3 world wide. Now by profit, it's very close between HP and Apple who is number 1 world wide.

In addition, Apple's iPad revenue, which doesn't count as "PC shipments", is again somewhere between 11% and 12% of the world wide PC revenue.

Now if we counted "PCs and tablets of $499 and more", I think Apple just might be #1 world wide already.

I meant to say PC Vendor Marketshare. Not Revenue

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You're right, they need to slap on the MacBook/Apple logo and THEN it'll look exactly like a MBP.

Actually, MBP wasn't the first one with a black border around the screen and black keys:

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The Gigabyte w251 laptop was. Released in 2007.

Here's another laptop that looks similar to the MBP. Released in 2007 as well. The Dell Precision M6300:

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Macbook Pro in 2007 looked like this:

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If you're saying that other laptops are copying the MBP design, you are wrong.
 
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Stupid question, but why does the trend have a cyclical component to it? Does it have to do with product refreshes or pushes from other companies at other times?
 
I meant to say PC Vendor Marketshare. Not Revenue

You don't mean market share, you mean unit sales. Well, Apple doesn't care about unit sales, they care about profit. If Apple wanted to be in the top 3 in unit sales, all they had to do was to buy Gateway and eMachines. Would have cost less than $2bn and would have added lots of unit sales, but zero profit. Or they could buy Acer (market caps 103.5bn TWD = US$3.5bn). Instant number 2 world wide. But Apple wants profit, not unit sales.


Stupid question, but why does the trend have a cyclical component to it? Does it have to do with product refreshes or pushes from other companies at other times?

There is the holiday season, where consumer oriented companies like Apple sell a lot. Extreme in iPod sales, where October-December sales always were about twice as much as any other quarter. In the USA, Apple apparently sells a lot in the July-September quarter when youngsters going to college buy new computers.


Anyone with half a brain can see that Apple is just taking the piss with pricing, the MBP has shot up in price from a few years ago. Luckily for Apple the world is full of dumb technophobes who cant even format a hard drive.

You sound like Michael Dell or J.T. Wang whistling in the dark. The dumb technophobes buy cheap PC laptops because they can't use a computer anyway. The clever ones buy Macs. And people who really know a bit about computers buy Macs. Except the ones who buy a Linux box, but they buy a Mac or iPad for the wife / girlfriend.
 
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"Im not surprised its going backwards.

The price of the Macbook pro is beyond a joke now.

having owned 2 15" pros im seriously thinking of moving away as upgrading is way to expensive.

When a laptop costs over £2000 with a half assed GPU inside and upgrades which have to be bought with blood diamonds your market share is going to drop.

Time apple started charging average prices for average spec laptops or actually spec them up to what they are trying to charge."
Out of interest, as you find the price of MacBooks too high, what do you do with your old ones?

My experience is that resale prices of even 4 or 5 year old machines is really good as opposed to a similar aged PC laptop. Taking everything into account, I find total cost of ownership to be less.

You also must be going for top end custom configurations. Are you sure you need every upgrade?
 
Actually, MBP wasn't the first one with a black border around the screen and black keys:

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The Gigabyte w251 laptop was. Released in 2007.

Here's another laptop that looks similar to the MBP. Released in 2007 as well. The Dell Precision M6300:

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Macbook Pro in 2007 looked like this:

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If you're saying that other laptops are copying the MBP design, you are wrong.

You mean like in 2000?

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Yes there are lots of pretty pictures on the interwebs.
 
With year-over-year unit growth of over 20%, Apple was the only one of the top five U.S. vendors to see an increase in shipments in an overall market that shrank by nearly 6%.

I guess that helps explain why CES 2012 looks an awful lot like MacWorld 2008........

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....and MacWorld 2009.

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:p

Sorry to be that guy, but the unibody MBP wasn't announced at Macworld 2009, but at the 2008 "Spotlight on Notebooks" Apple event.

Funny that it took 3 years and a half for the copycats to be in full effect. Now a new MBP design is just around the corner.

Like Apple used to say, "Start your photocopiers".
 
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Poor HP, lost 25% of their sales in one year :0 For me, thats remarkable.

Some say Apple computers last 2x as long as PCs, though I wouldn't put it as high as that. That means that between roughly 12% and 20% of all computers in active use are from Apple :0 (allowing for the fact that apple sold fewer computers in previous years)

I get 3 - 3.5 years from my Apple laptops, while my coworkers are replacing their Dells, HPs, Compaqs and Sonys at 14 - 18 months and generally it is not a performance move it is a durability and reliability mandated upgrade. When you figure configuration and maintenance plus lost productivity, from my perspective Apple laptops have remained the better buy for the buck.
 
It would be nice if Apple can maintain this trend and reach 50% market share. I'd like to see 50-50 Windows and OSX, Macs and PCs, iThings and AndroidThings. Or maybe even a third player come in and see 33-33-33 market share.

That way, there would be equal attention paid to the production of things like GPUs and such.
 
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