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I doubt to believe that to be true.Apple did the calculations and came to the conclusion it was more profitable to take the "Who cares" route. All the iPhone 6s users; how many will really come in for a cheap upgrade as opposed to going "screw it I need a new iPhone".

So you really believe this is a devious Apple plan for a quick cash grab? Breaking even or losing money on doing battery swaps, dealing with lawsuits, loss of customer goodwill/trust, etc. All to break even on $29 battery swaps and getting some people to upgrade?

Remember, your first post on this, the one I responded to in the beginning, was challenging your assertion that Apple loves getting cash from the $29 battery replacements.
 
You don’t have the figures of how long and how many lasted, failed, or were throttled. We are talking about a relatively small number, which Apple will fix.

Your second sentence , you can apply to your first - we both don't know the numbers involved .
 
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Battery replacement (due to normal battery degradation) usually wasn't necessary during the 1 year warranty period - so going to a third party didn't void anything.
so your point is you can't void a warranty if you don't have one -- unless you do have one like apple care
 
That's why we pay Apple to do, make the tough decisions for its users so they don't have to. And the downside of taking the initiative to anticipate user needs is that Apple will sometimes guess wrong.

You must own some share of apple to have this view..

I pay Apple for their product only!!!!!!! I don't pay for their opinions on what they THINK is best for me or how my phone works.. When I purchase the product all their opinions on how I should use that product END!!! That's what I purchased. And I'm pretty sure most posters feel the same..

It's not so much that Apple is always right, but that since you have chosen to throw in your lot with the Apple ecosystem, it's one of the idiosyncrasies of Apple that you will have to get used to, perhaps even embrace. That Apple will, more often than not, decide that they know what's best for their users and isn't above ramming their decisions down our throats, whether we want it or not.

What Apple thinks is best for them is not the best for their users. That's not what we pay for....


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So you really believe this is a devious Apple plan for a quick cash grab? Breaking even or losing money on doing battery swaps, dealing with lawsuits, loss of customer goodwill/trust, etc. All to break even on $29 battery swaps and getting some people to upgrade?
You want a simple answer? Yes
 
Sadly for you their product is software and hardware and within the apple ecostructure their word is law on both - tbh if you dont get or like that then please feel free to try Android....
 
Correct. Too many entitled babies on here.

This is obviously an attempt to shut people up along with attempts to set up an Apple chorus. If Apple said this it would be unacceptable but nonetheless make sense since it got caught, but it doesn't make sense to me coming from a fellow consumer. How is this exposure affecting you that would feel compelled to criticize those who've basically been scammed?
 
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And where’s your proof devices are being throttled within the first 12 months? You have some data to back that up?

Yeah, not all batteries will keep their 80% charge in 12 months ..... that is a fact , and also apple acknowledges this with a guarantee they will be replaced under warranty.

10.2.1 iOS update will throttle an iPhone whose battery is under 80%

Clear ? Or would you like to argue that all batteries will have over 80% for at least 12 months ? Good luck !

Mine for one did not, was replaced within 12 months .
 
Following your logic, if a car is built with a supersonic engine but it shut itself down after 1 second due to a small fuel tank, it’s a product which is well designed?

Huh? Why don't you specify what the design error is instead of inventing a scenario that has zero relevance to the issue?
 
Incorrect. Read this article if you want more detailed information...it has nothing to do with a "failing" battery, but more to do with an aging battery not being as capable of delivering peak voltage to the CPU.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/20/a...ones-with-older-batteries-are-running-slower/

Apple is saying that the sudden shutdowns are due to old batteries but the problem with that is Apple not trustworthy now.

Many people believe it is because of defective batteries or an engineering design flaw. We have to wait for an independent 3rd party to do some analysis of these batteries.
 
Huh? Why don't you specify what the design error is instead of inventing a scenario that has zero relevance to the issue?
They designed a CPU with such a single core performance that can’t be sustained by the thin batteries they installed in the problematic phones. That is why they introduced the power efficient cores with iPhone 7.
 
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Huh? Why don't you specify what the design error is instead of inventing a scenario that has zero relevance to the issue?

We are in the process of finding out . If we knew the design flaw, Apple would not be asking us to pay $29, but instead they would be doing a recall / repair program.

Right now we just know the symptoms. The 6 and 6S suffer from bad crashes..... that sound normal to you ? So bad in fact , throttling had to be introduced .
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They designed a CPU with such a single core performance that can’t be sustained by the thin batteries they installed in the problematic phones. That is why they introduced the power efficient cores with iPhone 7.

That's a very valid point .
 
Gonna wait until the class action lawsuits kick in and then figure out what to do. Until then I'll just use my old iPhone 6 for my DJI spark.
 
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