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Apple Maps Might Start Showing Ads

N47H said:
People use Apple Maps? Can’t speak for the US, but the navigation alone is shocking enough to avoid using them in the UK despite any potentially beneficial features that may be in there. Takes you to the wrong place regularly, particularly if trying to visit a commercial address, and also does not take you the quickest routes, plus the traffic updates are far behind Google Maps.

I’d love for Apple Maps to be better, but currently they suck.
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Another example of apple fragmentation, your apple experience depends on where you live, no apple AI in Europe and no good apple mapping navigation experience outside of USA.
 
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Not happy with this idea. But it is possible that one day ads will come as it gives cash flow to Apple. Hopefully it won't be any time soon.
 
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Great, it'll be like Google Maps is now. "Hey, we should stop for lunch. What's around this exit?" "Google says there is a place... wait, 14 miles from here? Oh it's sponsored. Ok here is... wait, no that's sponsored too... just take the exit and we'll figure it out."
 
First, Apple is not lacking profit.

Second, advertising is so overdone today. I have stopped watching commercial TV almost entirely because of the mindless ads. I get AppleTV and Netflix for free with my T-Mobile service. I might have watched one movie in the last six months. If T-Mobile dropped those freebies I wouldn’t care.

I read an article about scientists that trained rats to drive a little car. (I know it doesn’t sound real, in short, it makes them very happy.) But it was said that your environment can affect your happiness. I thought that my environment is one thing I have some control over, so I’m taking control. Removing ad based media is the first to go.

There is this thing called “need for chaos voter” where people want to burn it all down. I propose we adopt that thinking when it comes to advertising, if you see an ad for something, promise yourself not to buy it. Bring the whole advertising model crashing down - ha ha ha, I even made myself laugh thinking that could happen!
 
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klspahr said:
First, Apple is not lacking profit.

Second, advertising is so overdone today. I have stopped watching commercial TV almost entirely because of the mindless ads. I get AppleTV and Netflix for free with my T-Mobile service. I might have watched one movie in the last six months. If T-Mobile dropped those freebies I wouldn’t care.

I read an article about scientists that trained rats to drive a little car. (I know it doesn’t sound real, in short, it makes them very happy.) But it was said that your environment can affect your happiness. I thought that my environment is one thing I have some control over, so I’m taking control. Removing ad based media is the first to go.

There is this thing called “need for chaos voter” where people want to burn it all down. I propose we adopt that thinking when it comes to advertising, if you see an ad for something, promise yourself not to buy it. Bring the whole advertising model crashing down - ha ha ha, I even made myself laugh thinking that could happen!
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Sounds great to me, but there's too many who wouldn't go along for it to really work.
 
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N47H said:
People use Apple Maps? Can’t speak for the US, but the navigation alone is shocking enough to avoid using them in the UK despite any potentially beneficial features that may be in there. Takes you to the wrong place regularly, particularly if trying to visit a commercial address, and also does not take you the quickest routes, plus the traffic updates are far behind Google Maps.

I’d love for Apple Maps to be better, but currently they suck.
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I am comfortable using Apple Maps here in Singapore. The location data seems more or less equally updated for both Maps and Google Maps, and I find I have no issues using Maps to get to wherever I need to go.

Anything that lets me wean off Google Services is a win in my book.
 
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@Andy_2341 & @klspahr

You both have my vote
I LOATHE advertising

The one thing I still watch on "normal TV" is sports (usually football and hockey) and I'm absolutely that person who records it all and "catches up to live" by around the end of the game while doing other things during the first 70-80% of it -- usually exercising instead

It's sort of shocking how little "football" there is in a 3-4 hour game/broadcast.

Hockey, thankfully isn't too bad on TV AD breaks, but holy smokes the in-game stuff ... it's everywhere ... all over the rink and boards (including the fully "not actually there" digitally inserted ADs) ... just ... bleh ...
 
webkit said:
Exactly. Some like to say "Steve Jobs would never have done XYZ" yet no one knows for sure. Had Jobs lived longer, he may have done many of the same things Cook has done or is considering.
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He could have been worse!

It's truly impossible to know on some of this stuff

Things have changed a lot ... and continue to change ... since 2011 when he passed
 
macfacts said:
Apple maps are built into iPhones and iPhones aren't free or low cost
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So? Are you saying that every Apple app that comes pre-installed on the iPhone should be 100% free to use or ad-free? Apple TV/TV+ should be 100% free and ad-free because you purchased an iPhone? Apple Music should be 100% free and ad-free because you purchased an iPhone?
 
Downundermac said:
The days of Steve squared are evidently long gone with this nail in the coffin.
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They are? Steve Jobs' idea in the late 1990s was to have an ad-supported Mac OS upgrade version that displayed a 60-second commercial at startup. Apple's iAd mobile advertising platform was developed and launched under Jobs.

Had Jobs lived longer, he may have done many of the same things Cook has done or is considering.
 
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Ya’ll can’t have it both ways, if you favor “privacy” they need to make money elsewhere, ads will not go anywhere, they’ll figure a way to get your attention 🤷
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
The complete irony that the same people saying nonsense like “ Apple customers will defend anything”…
Are the exact same people that will defend Steve Jobs tooth and nail, coming up with the most wild ideas about how he was “ for the customer only” and “ would never let an advertisement in one of his operating systems”.
The direct evidence to the contrary is met with “well um… that was iOS 3 and google providing the data then so it was Okay”. Or “well iAds was um… it just didn’t exist. Let’s ignore it and pretend it didn’t exist. It didn’t exist. It totally didn’t. Jobs would never. He was perfect. Tim Cook Bad!!!”
Despite the fact that the Google maps and YouTube apps on the iPhone were both designed, developed and maintained by Apple.
As for iAd, not only did it very much exist, but it was literally, no exaggeration, introduced as one of the top eight consumer features of the iPhone 4.
It was literally introduced as a feature. A benefit. A reason you would want to purchase the iPhone 4. For third-party advertisements.
This is Steve Jobs. Showing off how good car commercials looked. On the iPhone. You cannot make this up.
He is, with no exaggeration, saying that one of the benefits of the iPhone 4 was the embedded Apple provided advertisements within third-party applications.
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Steve Jobs absolutely would have put ads in Maps. But the fact is, Apple putting ads in their apps (Stocks, Maps, Podcasts, Weather, etc) blurs why we bought into the Apple ecosystem over Google's Android.
 
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webkit said:
For similar reasons that television networks/channels have advertising, streaming services have advertising, newspapers and magazines have advertising, etc. These companies want to generate revenue and profits from sources other than just subscriptions or retransmission fees and Apple wants to generate revenue and profits from sources other than just hardware/software sales or subscription fees.
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So it doesn’t need ads, Apple just wants even more money.
 
turbineseaplane said:
Why are we talking about Steve?
I feel like I'm always being told on here that we need to not talk about "What Steve would have done"

I can't speak for others, but I'm not ok with Apple doing ADs now, or then ... or ever
I find it objectively gross -- always have
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We’re discussing Steve to debunk the notion that ads are new under cook. I’m not ok with ads either, but not moving to Samsung because of it
 
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