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Apple Marketing SVP Phil Schiller Thinks Instagram "Jumped The Shark" After Android Launch?
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Apple was used by Instagram. Instagram would be nothing without Apple and now it's commited to Facebook. What a rascal...
never used instagram because I am a graphic designer and would rather have manual control instead of automated filters but Phil is silly. Sure he is patriotic to Apple but Instagram has a right to be on another platform. If it did decline in quality than it would have done the same if it weren't on android as well.
I am in a huge Apple questioning mood right now and have every right to be. All I am hearing today is reminding me of previous ****** experiences with Apple and wondering why I am still one of their customers.
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No, their macs only generate about 5% of their income. Their iOS products have pushed them to be the top company in the world. I agree with you that them making iOS made os x's quality decline though.
I am in a huge Apple questioning mood right now and have every right to be. All I am hearing today is reminding me of previous ****** experiences with Apple and wondering why I am still one of their customers.
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No, their macs only generate about 5% of their income. Their iOS products have pushed them to be the top company in the world. I agree with you that them making iOS made os x's quality decline though.
EXACTLY!
One BILLION dollars for a company that has a dozen or more apps JUST like it on the app store, who made zero revenue, has no business plan, and has 12 people "working" there. Something is damned fishy to me. I am no conspiracy theorist, but Facebook cannot possibly be that stupid.
Please, someone explain this to me.
What a stupid remark.
If it wasn't for Apple getting involved in the mobil market full force we'd still be having those ugly ass none working phones like Palm Treo, ugly Nokia's and those hideous Dingle berries or what ever they are called.
There would have been no iPod, iPhone and no iPad.
What kind of world would that have been.
So yes I'm glad Apple got involved in the mobil business.
And they still make the best computers too.
As far as Schiller's comment I don't really care as I never used that App anyway.
And if this is how he feels well good for him let it all out and you'll feel better soon.
I am saying they changed their business model and moved focus. So they jumped the shark. It has nothing to do with Apple being screwed.
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Where did I say it was bad, all I said was they drifted away from their core. And why is a factual statement stupid?
um, I think that is hyperbole in the extreme. How many people do you classify as "many"? 2?
To say that people are using that made-up idiom is just silly. "Jump the shark" has been around for decades, and has a basis in a real pop culture moment. No one has "migrated" to anything. lol.
You do understand that's not the fault of Instagram, yes? They don't provide the content, just the means to broadcast it.
What? Apple didn't pay them anything, they have no debt to Apple. If they wanted them they should have made an offer, that's just common sense. iOS wouldn't be what it is today if it weren't for devs in the first place. Think before you post.
I don't get it. At all. I mean, "jumping the shark" has nothing to do with "moving focus", it means tired, worn out, lack of ideas. Instagram wanted to make more money, so they moved to Android as well as iOS. I cannot think of a single metaphor that would explain how Instagram jumped anything except on an opportunity to pad their bottom line. But we can tarry with trifles or try to figure out what the hell was worth a billion dollars. Sure isn't Instagram.
What a lot of those comments mean is that people who have been using Mac's (not just iMacs and PowerBooks, but PowerMacs and the ACD CCFL LCDs) are tired of iPhones, iPads and iOS taking the front seat while the power systems that once frontlined MacRumors are given as much regard as the Mac Pro.
Yes, Apple made its current fortune with iOS and consumer focus, but at the cost of the professionals who initially supported Apple during its rough years. Where do you think Apple got the funding to get into the mobile market? From those of us who used Apple PowerMac's and displays; the photographers, film editors, designers - all that money into R&D for iOS and mobile devices.
iPads and iPhones are cheaper than Mac's, cross platform and gave people a taste into the Mac ecosystem. Yet most are consumers buying notebooks for their kids, or iMacs to surf the web. Try real film editing on an iPad or even a quad MacBook Pro, compared to my 12-Core Mac Pro, HD rendering is a PITA on my MacBook Pro. Not many who used PowerMac's for heavy lifting are going back to Apple, and not because there's no money in the market for them, but because Apple just doesn't care.
So yeah, some of us who depended on Apple for work, our livelihood, now have to face iPads and iOS features weakening the systems we have come to use for almost a decade or more.
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I'm a HUGE macophile. That said, I spend absolutely no time hating Android or any other operating system. What's the point? I enjoy Instagram. I post photos there every day. I enjoy looking at the photos others post there. I enjoy the community, the cats, the food, the sunsets and the photos by the people I follow. I don't care if they're posting from an iPhone or some other brand phone. That is all.
I'm a HUGE macophile. That said, I spend absolutely no time hating Android or any other operating system. What's the point? I enjoy Instagram. I post photos there every day. I enjoy looking at the photos others post there. I enjoy the community, the cats, the food, the sunsets and the photos by the people I follow. I don't care if they're posting from an iPhone or some other brand phone. That is all.
I said that because Instagram took advantage of all the iPhone hype around the app to get a classy status for their cheap filters, so they made a lot of money selling it to Facebook.
And? That's kinda the point of the App Store; to get people to download your app. Still don't see how they did anything wrong.
I don't think it has nothing to do with Android or Facebook to be honest. It has more to do with Instagram'a growth on iOS in general.
Instagram was great when it first debuted. There are a LOT of very, very nice pictures there. However, when it started getting more noticed, it declined so much that people started getting annoyed. People were stealing pictures and calling them their own, people were ripping stuff off fashion sites and just adding filters, then there were photographers using it to showcase their work that was shot with DSLRs.
Not only that, but then you had all the big social media guys pitching it to businesses like Starbucks and General Electric. Facebook, Twitter, and Google+ are all good social platforms for businesses. Instagram is NOT because it becomes as bad as the Twitter trending topics which are powered by teenagers who like/love/retweet everything.
And that's the reason I personally left. A comment someone left on someone's picture also grabbed my attention and made me think again: "OMG... You didn't shoot ALL those beautiful holiday pictures just using Instagram, right?!"
Instagram was great when it first debuted. There are a LOT of very, very nice pictures there. However, when it started getting more noticed, it declined so much that people started getting annoyed. People were stealing pictures and calling them their own, people were ripping stuff off fashion sites and just adding filters, then there were photographers using it to showcase their work that was shot with DSLRs.
Not only that, but then you had all the big social media guys pitching it to businesses like Starbucks and General Electric. Facebook, Twitter, and Google+ are all good social platforms for businesses. Instagram is NOT because it becomes as bad as the Twitter trending topics which are powered by teenagers who like/love/retweet everything.
And that's the reason I personally left. A comment someone left on someone's picture also grabbed my attention and made me think again: "OMG... You didn't shoot ALL those beautiful holiday pictures just using Instagram, right?!"
That's how I feel about Apple now...
"Now that it has [grown] much larger the signal to noise ratio is different.
That isn't necessarily good or bad, it's just not what I originally had fun with."
He's articulated my feelings precisely.
Hmmm...
"Now that it has [grown] much larger the signal to noise ratio is different.
That isn't necessarily good or bad, it's just not what I originally had fun with."
He's articulated my feelings precisely.
Hmmm...
The iPod had already existed, and the iPad was already also in the works long before the iPhone. I know the sales figures won't agree with me, but I always thought the iPod was just right for playing music (and only music). However, progress suggests that it's better to have 1 device in your pocket than several.
Progress is a key word here. The iPhone was one of the first (but not the first) phones to have a capacitive touch screen. Apple did not invent capacitive touch. In fact, the idea to make a capacitive touch screen was already pondered around 1968, by someone that I don't think ever worked for Apple.
Resistive touch screens with digitizers were the standard before then because of the technology available at the time. Because the ability to use the smartphone as a phone was important, dedicated answer and end call buttons were also rather standard to facilitate quick answering of calls. You know how your fingers don't always work on those touchscreens used on credit card terminals? Those are most likely the same tech lol.
That's why old phones had buttons. This is also why the first phones to use capacitive touchscreens were "revolutionary" in using larger buttons (because a capacitive touch screen is less precise than a digitizer).
I'm happy to give Apple plenty of credit - but I don't think they turned the industry on its ear quite the way you guys have been romancing it to be.
That said, I can't possibly fathom how the brand of phone owned would influence the quality and subjects of pictures taken. The iPhone is extremely popular, and I see all kinds of people (in all kinds of places) using them - I've seen taxi drivers using them, and people that work at the Grocery Outlet.. chances are your garbage man might be using an iPhone!
I'm still disappointed at the emphasis on Instagram - it's a toy camera app. Yes, it takes pictures.. A quality COMPACT digital camera would allow for better pictures, and perhaps less noise as it requires the discretion to pull out your camera. I usually carry a really nice compact with me, because the indoor/night capabilities of phone cameras are terrible heheh. A decent compact (or if you get fancy, a compact system) is small enough to fit in your backpack or purse and takes muuuuch better pictures.
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If Instagram was ever a decent community, I don't blame Phil one bit for deleting his acct, because it certainly isn't anymore. ...especially now that Facebook bought it, and like your Facebook photos, FB will own all the rights to your instagram photos too, if they don't already. Terrible policy.
The Billion Dollar Price that Facebook paid is a clear sign of a social media bubble.
They are throwing money around as if it was Monopoly dollars.
Instagram's filters... nice, but not particularly exciting. They make bad photos look better than they really are by wiping out detail through filters and colors - until you get sick of the always same filters.
One billion dollars?
Zuckerberg is one of the most overvalued personalities of this time.
They are throwing money around as if it was Monopoly dollars.
Instagram's filters... nice, but not particularly exciting. They make bad photos look better than they really are by wiping out detail through filters and colors - until you get sick of the always same filters.
One billion dollars?
Zuckerberg is one of the most overvalued personalities of this time.
This is the first time I've come across this phrase. I had to resort to wackypedia to figure out what that idiot Schiller was on about.
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If only I could upvote you more than once!
Before Happy Days was canceled, there was an episode where Fonzie takes a jetski and does a stunt jump over a shark. I think that's what it was? Meh, Happy Days got less interesting because they got rid of too much of the original cast and spent all the time around Chachi and Joanie.
at least I can choose to ignore photos with ugly instagram filters, its the ugly monochrome filter that Apple stuck over the Finder sidebar in Lion that pisses me off, and I have to stare at it all day
