They make hybrids, the absolute most retarded car class in all of existence. It has all the complexity of a gas engine mixed with a halfassed electric engine. More expensive, more difficult to repair, and with questionable benefits.
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They make hybrids, the absolute most retarded car class in all of existence. It has all the complexity of a gas engine mixed with a halfassed electric engine. More expensive, more difficult to repair, and with questionable benefits.
The Tesla stuff isn't as interesting as the increasing mountain of rumors about biometric-related stuff that Apple is looking to develop. The more I think about it, the more interesting this gets. Apple could be engineering a whole host of technology that we have with us that monitors various aspects of our bodies. Not just when we're working out, but all the time. Could be revolutionary for diabetics, people with heart conditions, etc.
Steve Jobs methodically implanted his personality into Apple's culture so that it could continue without him but I wonder how far that'll take the company without a true visionary looking ahead. Elon Musk at Apple would guarantee the continuation of Steve Jobs' work.
Meanwhile, while brilliant, Elon Musk is stretched too thin to be able to accomplish everything he wants to accomplish. Apple's financial power and human resources would enable Musk to move ahead with his ambition.
Acquiring Tesla and operating it separately would be important to getting a foothold in the automotive market but getting Elon Musk on board is the real holy grail.
Meanwhile, while brilliant, Elon Musk is stretched too thin to be able to accomplish everything he wants to accomplish. Apple's financial power and human resources would enable Musk to move ahead with his ambition.
Acquiring Tesla and operating it separately would be important to getting a foothold in the automotive market but getting Elon Musk on board is the real holy grail.
Hybrids offer the best of both worlds.
In my opinion, electric cars on the market today are "the most retarded car class in all of existence." Why would I buy a super expensive car with which I can't drive more than a couple of hundred miles? You have a luxury car and you most likely can't drive to a nearby state without being forced to stop and wait for the battery to recharge! FAIL!
Questionable benefits? I've done my fair share of looking in on hybrids, and the only real benefit I found is that you can go around and tell everyone you own a hybrid.
They take about 2 decades to rev from 0 to 60, and the MPG savings aren't any better than most recent 4 cylinders.
If they really wanted Musk on the board, they need only ask him to serve. They don't have to buy his company for that.
In any case, I question the value. Elon Musk seems to lack focus, a lot like Larry Ellison. He moves from one project to the next with a been there/done that attitude.
Actually they're planning to get much much cheaper. http://insideevs.com/tesla-gen-iii-coming-in-3-to-4-years-target-price-of-30000-to-40000/
Target price is 30-40k before tax incentives. Given the fuel savings, I'd definitely grab one in this price range.
Looks like the Tesla is set to become the world's thinnest, smallest car with a battery that will last 18 minutes - long enough to propel it about 2 miles.
I had considered the possibility of saying you could appreciate the smell of your own farts, but I decided that I didn't want the entire post to be taken down if someone chose to report it as offensive.
Article may be missing the bigger picture!
What commodity do both Apple and Tesla have great need for?
Batteries.
It could very well be that these teams met to discuss a battery deal, buying or starting a battery company, pooling battery IP and research to get a cheaper lighter high energy-density battery, or other actions along this line of thought...
Could also be that Apple was looking to catch up with Google's autonomous car project and found Detroit and other auto capitals to be too distant either geographically or philosophically...
What commodity do both Apple and Tesla have great need for?
Batteries.
It could very well be that these teams met to discuss a battery deal, buying or starting a battery company, pooling battery IP and research to get a cheaper lighter high energy-density battery, or other actions along this line of thought...
Could also be that Apple was looking to catch up with Google's autonomous car project and found Detroit and other auto capitals to be too distant either geographically or philosophically...
True, but we saw him delve into UI design with iOS7.
His first attempt at a car would an alu-min-ium slab with no steering wheel, a yellow tinted retina display for the speedometer with no numbers (just an abstract circle to show speed), and removing the usual power button and placing it near the turn signals so you can accidentally turn your car off when you are trying to do something else (like the macbooks).
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It's a rumor, genius.
I have a feeling apple looked at tesla for its battery technology.
If an acquisition were to happened, it would probably look something like the FileMaker/apple relationship that exists now. Apple would allow tesla to operate independently so long as they get access to their battery technology.
If an acquisition were to happened, it would probably look something like the FileMaker/apple relationship that exists now. Apple would allow tesla to operate independently so long as they get access to their battery technology.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. The Model S gets 265 miles on a full charge which is done every night at home. That should serve most anyone except long distance trips. For those, Tesla has built Supercharger stations that can get a full charge in as little as 45 minutes. The charge is included in price of the car. For the $50-60 I save in gas at each station, I can buy a decent meal while I wait for the car to charge.
In addition, I have solar so I haven't paid the utility company anything for the charge at home. I've had one for over a year and have driven 13000 without spending a penny beyond my initial investment in solar.
Tesia and Apple - same field when it comes to taste and looking out for the environment.
but Damn, it will be very expensive whatever they make together
but Damn, it will be very expensive whatever they make together
Biotech is also Diagnostics, and predicting heart attacks IS diagnostics.
di·ag·nos·tic adjective \-ˈnäs-tik\
: of, relating to, or used in diagnosis : used to help identify a disease, illness, or problem
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Fun fact: as tesla is an all-electric car they pay no fees or taxes in Norway. That means that Teslas nearest competitors are like twice as expensive here in Norway. It still is quite a lot of money, but expensive is the wrong word as it's extremely cheap compared to other cars
Something about detecting heart rhythms as a means of identification creeps me out. It's an irrational thing, like earwigs and [gulp] mayonnaise (I loathe mayonnaise, ever since I saw a handheld blender infomercial in the 90's with a woman making it with eggs and oil, barf). lol
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Additionally, the amount of energy in honing/engineering hybrid batteries and decommissioning [much like that of the roughly 30 span of a nuclear power plant] expends more energy and damage to the environment than one may believe.
The two alternatives that are already in use and most likely our best chances in saving the environment while maintaining energy independence are diesel and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. GM and Ford have been building hydrogen fuel cell vehicles for the Army for years, most of which are used in the MiddleEast as the byproduct is water vapor/fresh water, which is collected in a tank in the vehicle for those in the desert. Many car companies have hydrogen fuel cell vehicles in operation throughout the States and globe, with fueling stations using potent solar paneling in extracting hydrogen from water in automated fueling stations, thereby not taxing power plants/grids as electric cars.
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Additionally, the amount of energy in honing/engineering hybrid batteries and decommissioning [much like that of the roughly 30 span of a nuclear power plant] expends more energy and damage to the environment than one may believe.
The two alternatives that are already in use and most likely our best chances in saving the environment while maintaining energy independence are diesel and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. GM and Ford have been building hydrogen fuel cell vehicles for the Army for years, most of which are used in the MiddleEast as the byproduct is water vapor/fresh water, which is collected in a tank in the vehicle for those in the desert. Many car companies have hydrogen fuel cell vehicles in operation throughout the States and globe, with fueling stations using potent solar paneling in extracting hydrogen from water in automated fueling stations, thereby not taxing power plants/grids as electric cars.
Byd E6 - London's first all electric taxi fleet:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/086125be-924a-11e3-8018-00144feab7de.html#axzz2tVqHVtxi
Detroit Electric all electric sports car:
http://www.detroit-electric.com/
I doubt the taxi company is doing this for bragging rights rather than financial reasons. Buffet has never been known to wilfully throw money down the drain.
See also bus co LA Metro http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1085091_la-metro-chooses-electric-buses-from-chinese-company-byd
Zero emissions is critical in many cities in China where pollution quotas mean people often can't buy new petrol cars.
LOL I do not doubt they considered acquiring Tesla. I don't see any pros to Apple buying a car company? Well maybe I do see a few pros, but they aren't enough to justify a car company purchase.
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How are they speculating? They aren't pulling information out of their a**. It's a rumor, meaning a story that is not 100% certain. Besides, if you don't enjoy the site just leave, buddy. Surely they won't miss you.
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How are they speculating? They aren't pulling information out of their a**. It's a rumor, meaning a story that is not 100% certain. Besides, if you don't enjoy the site just leave, buddy. Surely they won't miss you.
Steve did say if he had more time that he wanted to tackle the car next. Nothing is too far fetched here.
Probably a lot cheaper than the current models. Remember, Apple is about *affordable* luxury and they have a history of introducing cutting edge technology at very reasonable, and sometimes, unexpectedly cheap price points... Mac, iMac, iPad, iPod, etc.
It's when all the copycats who invest little to nothing in R&D come out with their own versions a few years later, using price as their weapon of choice because they have no way of differentiating their products, that Apple can sometimes seem pricey. And that's usually only the case for spec whores who measure products based solely on a list of specs.