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I think you both might have missed the point. Biometric devices require FDA certification, which takes a long time, and of course the devices have to be accurate and reliable to be approved. A few new hires doesn't make Apple expert in this area, it just barely gets their foot into the door.

I'm well aware of that, I'm also aware of the fact that Apple executives have been meeting with FDA. The reasoning behind those meetings is unknown, but it is fact according to sources. I am very well aware the sensors must be highly accurate, and that has been a worry of mine since I saw the first rumors.
 
Hybrids offer the best of both worlds.

In my opinion, electric cars on the market today are "the most retarded car class in all of existence." Why would I buy a super expensive car with which I can't drive more than a couple of hundred miles? You have a luxury car and you most likely can't drive to a nearby state without being forced to stop and wait for the battery to recharge! FAIL!

How many people drive that far? Lol..

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You obviously don't know what you're talking about. The Model S gets 265 miles on a full charge which is done every night at home. That should serve most anyone except long distance trips. For those, Tesla has built Supercharger stations that can get a full charge in as little as 45 minutes. The charge is included in price of the car. For the $50-60 I save in gas at each station, I can buy a decent meal while I wait for the car to charge.

In addition, I have solar so I haven't paid the utility company anything for the charge at home. I've had one for over a year and have driven 13000 without spending a penny beyond my initial investment in solar.

You win. Seriously, not in a sarcastic way, you destroyed that guy's post.
 
Biotech is also Diagnostics, and predicting heart attacks IS diagnostics.

di·ag·nos·tic adjective \-ˈnäs-tik\
: of, relating to, or used in diagnosis : used to help identify a disease, illness, or problem

Biotech is the use of living systems and organisms to develop or make useful products, or "any technological application that uses biological systems, living organisms or derivatives thereof, to make or modify products or processes for specific use"

This is biometrics.
 
If you can see the difference between a Mac and PC, you should be able to see the styling differences between two vastly different automobiles. Or are you the kind of person who thinks a Ford Fusion looks like a Chevy Tahoe?

I've the kind of person who knows they both contain combustion engines and so have no interest in them (besides which one is cheaper and handles winter better. If I can't afford an all electric vehicle, those are the two most important factors to me when buying.)
 
Elon Musk at Apple would guarantee the continuation of Elon Musk's work. I doubt that he'd want to wear the figurative yoke of Steve Jobs, even at Apple.

That's not what I meant. Steve Jobs' vision ended when he passed. Anything he left behind may be carried on by Apple but Steve Jobs will never have a new vision. However, his mission to change the world is shared by other visionaries, one of which is Elon Musk. Elon would have his own vision for the world, for what's important to change, for what direction things should go. Apple needs a new visionary and I can't think of anybody better than Elon Musk.
 
That's not what I meant. Steve Jobs' vision ended when he passed. Anything he left behind may be carried on by Apple but Steve Jobs will never have a new vision. However, his mission to change the world is shared by other visionaries, one of which is Elon Musk. Elon would have his own vision for the world, for what's important to change, for what direction things should go. Apple needs a new visionary and I can't think of anybody better than Elon Musk.

Steve Jobs can't be replaced. Bringing in someone else would essentially be saying the team Steve left behind has no vision (or he didn't instill them with his vision). If Apple has to bring in an outsider to provide vision then it's no longer Apple.
 
Oh Boy.. How much will cost an Apple branded red Tesla ???

You really have to ask the price? Maybe it's not for you. Anyway that is what car loans are for!! I'm in!

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Steve Jobs can't be replaced. Bringing in someone else would essentially be saying the team Steve left behind has no vision (or he didn't instill them with his vision). If Apple has to bring in an outsider to provide vision then it's no longer Apple.


You got face it. Steve is Dead. Steve was Apple, therefore Apple is Dead.

The King is dead, Long live the King!
 
Tesla is the biggest hype job in automotive history.

Having caught the uniformed eye of the attention starved administration, massively large amounts of tax payers money went into this sham. Musk and company rival Jobs as pitchmen. As they say there's no bigger sucker for a sales pitch like another salesman.

Positioned as Uber Cool, the many well concealed gremlins have yet to be revealed in all but a series of secret papers. This is one car that makes the Edsel look positively exotic.
 
You may want to reconsider your definition of pioneer, because electric cars aren't any new.


Whats your definition of Pioneer?
"develop or be the first to use or apply"

Tesla is in fact the first company to build a electric car that people actually want to buy and is having a hard time supplying the demand for. No one said they invented electric cars, the electric car was created before the combustion engine but it lacked the technology to make it usable.
 
I humbly call BS.
If you are "just an iOS Dev" you must be either poor at personal economics or highly successful to actually purchase a Tesla. You save on fuel, oil changes, etc. but TCO is still in the top 1% of all cars.

Environmentally, 5 years ago, the battery technology provided a MUCH environmentally dirtier carbon footprint than hybrids. Today the battery technology is still slightly higher. It won't be for another 5 years or so that battery technology will allow a 100% electric to be cleaner over a vehicle's life than an electric/ICE hybrid.

Given that a Tesla costs 3-4x a typical hybrid yet is still dirtier, the only reason to purchase one is for the sport/luxury feel to it. In other words, it is a "look at me" vehicle. Though if you are "just an iOS dev" at least you can put your corporate logo monogram on your car to help market your product. At least that would make use of a dirty "look at me" vehicle.

As for me, if I could afford the initial cost of a cheap hybrid, even a Prius C, I would buy one in a heartbeat.

The company is going to fail and produces a "yuppy" car because you feel you can't afford it? Arrange a test drive and and see if you feel differently. I am just an iOS Dev and I take delivery in March VIN #320XX. After test driving you'll realize they are here to stay and if you still believe it is out of your reach wait for Gen 3.
 
Having caught the uniformed eye of the attention starved administration, massively large amounts of tax payers money went into this sham.

Oh, the $465 million government loan they got under the Bush administration that they repaid 9 years early? Would love to hear what you think of the GM bailout that cost the tax payers $10 billion.
 
Once again, MacSpeculation, first with all the news that may or may not have possibly happened in a baseless, third-hand kind of way.

Do you know what "rumors" means, as in "MacRumors"?

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Having caught the uniformed eye of the attention starved administration, massively large amounts of tax payers money went into this sham. Musk and company rival Jobs as pitchmen. As they say there's no bigger sucker for a sales pitch like another salesman.

Positioned as Uber Cool, the many well concealed gremlins have yet to be revealed in all but a series of secret papers. This is one car that makes the Edsel look positively exotic.

Lol just because you don't understand electronics and electrics doesn't mean there are "gremlins" or a boogeyman in the this here contraption.

What is your source of these secret papers? We're waiting.

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I humbly call BS.
If you are "just an iOS Dev" you must be either poor at personal economics or highly successful to actually purchase a Tesla. You save on fuel, oil changes, etc. but TCO is still in the top 1% of all cars.

Environmentally, 5 years ago, the battery technology provided a MUCH environmentally dirtier carbon footprint than hybrids. Today the battery technology is still slightly higher. It won't be for another 5 years or so that battery technology will allow a 100% electric to be cleaner over a vehicle's life than an electric/ICE hybrid.

Given that a Tesla costs 3-4x a typical hybrid yet is still dirtier, the only reason to purchase one is for the sport/luxury feel to it. In other words, it is a "look at me" vehicle. Though if you are "just an iOS dev" at least you can put your corporate logo monogram on your car to help market your product. At least that would make use of a dirty "look at me" vehicle.

As for me, if I could afford the initial cost of a cheap hybrid, even a Prius C, I would buy one in a heartbeat.

I agree the price is too much to be a no-brainer purchase.

The car bodies and interiors probably have similar levels of greenness. Same with the motors, alternators, accessories. But what about gasoline refinement is so clean vs battery manufacturing? The refinement, distribution, and ultimate burning is so much cleaner than battery manufacturing, distribution, and utilizing energy from a power plant which is 50% efficient vs combustion engines which are 25% efficient?
 
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