No they won’t.Samsung charges their Galaxy zFold 2 $2300 or something. Apple will sell iFold for $4000
Nuts. The last thing I want is a foldable phone. One more place it can break ($1000 phone). But more Apple silicon is innovative -I expect this from Apple and will pay for it. A foldable screen is a gimmick for dumb kids.
signed a 76 year old engineer and Apple long time fan “boy”
The idea of foldable phones is nice, but the implementation hasn’t been great. There are trade offs that will be hard to solve (thickness, screen scratches, crease, etc.). I think most people see the implementations and aren’t impressed, and they assume the problems cannot be solved (we’ll have to wait and see).
Then you look at what Apple is supposedly doing with AR glasses, and one has to wonder if that isn’t a better solution to the “bigger screen” problem.
See, this is a reasonable and well thought out response to foldable screens. I may not necessarily agree, but at least it's not "Me no like foldables, foldables never good"
I do agree, AR glasses are going to be an extremely interesting paradigm in the near future. We do have a long way to go and I don't think having a full smartphone interface on AR glasses is feasible just yet, certainly not in a package that will be ubiquitous and everyone will wear. I think complaints like creases and durability will be similarly apparent (but different of course) with the AR paradigm for a long time as well.
I really hope they don't come out with a folding anything.As someone who can spend hours of the day reading news, browsing web, looking at images in detail, etc on my iPhone (12), I can appreciate the value of a quick fold to double screen real estate, get larger type (presbyopia is encroaching), and take over some of the tasks of my 11" iPad that I never seem to bother packing with me.
It's ALWAYS been an exciting possibility, but fraught with challenges, as Samsung's first attempt quickly proved right. The hinge and screen flex introduce long term wear issues that will never suit everyone. But naysayers with their flip phones weren't ready to jump on larger smartphones with a glass face early on either. Apple does have an admirable way of taking an existing concept with issues and making it practical (perfection is a never ending path). The iPadOS developments, and the pencil (hopefully more compact and integrated into body) make this an alluring prospect for me. At the right price...
The ostensible appeal is this: a device that takes up as much room in your pants pocket as a phone, but unfolds to show as much screen estate as a tablet.I’m sure they would implement it well, but I have never understood the appeal of a foldable phone. Just seems to introduce structural weaknesses for benefits I don’t just see. What am I missing?
biggest issue with AR glasses will likely be size/battery life, at least at first. I’ve seen some very nice demos where people have used AR to add virtual second and third monitors to their mac. Very cool. But to do that you are wearing giant space gogglesHopefully apple has a plan to make these things eventually look more or less like regular glasses (which I already wear
The other potential problem is interactivity - there’s nothing to “touch” when the display is virtual. Waving your hands around in the air may be functional, but it’s obviously less good than an actual screen you can physically interact with.
👴 If we're going to brag about being old, then, unfortunately, I'm compelled to join in. I'm well into my 37th year of purchasing Apple gear. From the Apple IIc, the first-gen Mac, Apple Newton PDA, the first Intel MacBook Pro, and four MacPro's —some of which I still have. I vividly recall being harassed by my co-workers for using a toy and not a real computer. I vaguely remember paying $349 for a one-megabyte memory module. No doubt, there may be at least one forum member sharpshooter to correct my memory, and that's okay.Nuts. The last thing I want is a foldable phone. One more place it can break ($1000 phone). But more Apple silicon is innovative -I expect this from Apple and will pay for it. A foldable screen is a gimmick for dumb kids.
signed a 76 year old engineer and Apple long time fan “boy”
👴 If we're going to brag about being old, then, unfortunately, I'm compelled to join in. I'm well into my 37th year of purchasing Apple gear. From the Apple IIc, the first-gen Mac, Apple Newton PDA, the first Intel MacBook Pro, and four MacPro's —some of which I still have. I vividly recall being harassed by my co-workers for using a toy and not a real computer. I vaguely remember paying $349 for a one-megabyte memory module.
More on point, I agree that foldable-screen phones have become quite popular, and I have no doubt that when Apple decides on which design to copy, it will likely be the best built and most expensive.
I wouldn't call young kids dumb, just naïve, inexperienced, and hungry to learn. I enjoyed teaching kids about the Mac when my co-worker and I were responsible for maintaining 500+ iMacs in a school district.
Now back to listening to my 60's soft rock as I pop my morning barrage of 💊's.
Regards,
Peace-Love-Dope-Right-On-Solid, and Heavy.✌️
I would love to have a phone with a screen area that can shrink and grow.I’m sure they would implement it well, but I have never understood the appeal of a foldable phone. Just seems to introduce structural weaknesses for benefits I don’t just see. What am I missing?
they are yes but when they do release one it will likely be better optimised than current foldables due to controlling both hardware and software. only downside on current foldables is not everything is optimised for the different displaysApple always a few years behind...
why wouldn't it last? the screen issues were at the start but gen 2 there has been no issuesIt’s gonna fk up real bad. I mean look at huawei and samsung. How long will the screen last?
Well, that didn't take long. I did not take time to craft my words with such precision, so I guess you're the first forum sharpshooter —congrats! OK, boys and girls; popular in the sense that most everyone I've spoken with likes the concert and thinks it's cool: no numbers, stats, or the like. This forum, for me, is for enjoyment and to learn. For some, it's a contest of wits.But have foldable-screen phones actually become quite popular? I haven’t seen any sales estimates that make me think so.
I’m sure they would implement it well, but I have never understood the appeal of a foldable phone. Just seems to introduce structural weaknesses for benefits I don’t just see. What am I missing?
Crazy if Apple does decide to have a price tag. I mean you can get a MBP 16 with that price.Samsung charges their Galaxy zFold 2 $2300 or something. Apple will sell iFold for $4000
Well, that didn't take long. I did not take time to craft my words with such precision, so I guess you're the first forum sharpshooter —congrats! OK, boys and girls; popular in the sense that most everyone I've spoken with likes the concert and thinks it's cool
: no numbers, stats, or the like. This forum, for me, is for enjoyment and to learn. For some, it's a contest of wits.
Sorry, but I have to laugh. The seriousness of critique without consideration to the spirit of a post is sometimes baffling. Nevertheless, I went back and specifically addressed and edited my pithy three-line paragraph for those first-year law students and linguists. Heaven help me if a misspelled word or a grammatical error is discovered.So, none of them have bought one?
OK, sure, but "does mild interest in a concept translate into sales of an execution of that concept" is an interesting question.