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Sounds like another analyst covering their asses for being wrong (again) about an upcoming product and using the tried and tested 'I was right but apple delayed/cancelled it at the last moment, honest'
 
Me too. It reminds me of IBM/PowerPC days. I'm all for it as long as ARM processors can run Windows/Linux in virtualization (and just as fast as on Intel) and in Boot Camp.

Linux maybe, but not Windows surely? I thought only Windows RT (if you're planning on 8) could run on ARM?
 
"OS X has been living a secret double life"
"OS X can now run on ARM processors"

Could be double bluff as you say. Interesting that we haven't heard any more rumours about a 12" iPad. I still think they could be one and the same device. Maybe a 12" iPad that docks into a MBA style keyboard for when you need to be a little more productive.

Interesting to hear Cook's comments recently that he does 90% of his computing on his iPad. Doesn't exactly sound like a ringing endorsement for the Mac from the CEO.
 
Interesting to hear Cook's comments recently that he does 90% of his computing on his iPad. Doesn't exactly sound like a ringing endorsement for the Mac from the CEO.

People doing generic administrative things are the ones that can use tablets and ultrabooks for work. The rest need real computers. Nothing new there.
 
So to end the confusion, there are two separate stories going around at the same time. One, all broadwell's are delayed. Two, Some broadwell's have shipped.

Here is a link from Intel that broadwell has shipped but they make no mention which tier are getting shipped. The below link is str8 from Intel on Wednesday, 3 days ago.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/2454...ell-but-next-gen-skylake-chip-could-slip.html



There are other stories they say the K series is what's actually delayed. This is the high end of the broadwell.

I don't buy any of this crap about Broadwell being delayed except for the K chips for desktops.
The delay is all about Haswell inventory for U series chips.
Broadwell is all about efficiency and IGPU enhancements which really only affect mobile platforms and really adds nothing to clock speed.
Laptops without dedicated graphics will be the real winners here and will render Haswell U series obsolete from a IGPU perceptive for non dedicated graphic machines.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014050101_Intel_Broadwell_graphics_enhancements.html
 
"OS X has been living a secret double life"
"OS X can now run on ARM processors"

Please no. I love the fact I can use my mac to run windows software as well.

Right now it's the best of both worlds. ARM processors may be catching up, but for sure they'll never be faster than what Intel is offering, and then you lose the easy cross-platform compatibility.
 
Although you could make a strong argument for an ARM-based Air to compete with Chromebooks on the low-end, which have been outselling Apple laptops 5:1 lately.
The Chrome hardware movement started slowly, but is picking up speed with each passing month. Apple is steadily losing market share among the low end, a low end which has small profit margins but huge unit sales.

The Chrome OS will soon run nearly all Android applications.

The Chrome App Store gets more new titles every day.

There are now enough free or low cost Chrome applications that a typical student or casual user can do everything they want with a Chrome machine.

A typical Chromebox sells at one third the cost of the entry level Mac Mini. A typical Chromebook sells at one fourth the cost of the entry level Mac Book Air with the same screen size. The newly released LG all-in-one Chromebase can replace the entry level iMac for typical students and casual users at one third the price.

Unless Apple is content to become a supplier of electronic jewelry and fashion, it has to have some reasonable low end offerings, and have these soon.
 
I wouldn't go that far. Samsung and IBM are both quite talented. IBM designs and fabricates much higher clock speed processors than Intel, for example -- as high as 5.5 GHz currently.

Steve Jobs was annoyed that IBM and Motorola/Freescale couldn't always satisfy his processor desires. We thought he was correct in adopting a sole source Intel strategy (announced in 2005 and executed in 2006), but in retrospect maybe he erred. Maybe he should have retained Mac OS X's dual architecture support past 10.5 to allow processor supplier flexibility, with (as examples) a MacPro equipped with powerful IBM Power8 processors and a more powerful Freescale-based Apple TV with real game console capabilities. Nobody delivers perfectly in this business, and it wasn't all that long ago that companies consuming semiconductors insisted on at least two independent suppliers.

Hopefully Apple is still compiling OS X on Power CPUs internally to keep their options open. Apple cannot afford to be so thoroughly dependent on Intel.

I can assure you, the dual architecture of OS X remains, and probably more. It's just that they don't advertise it. The code is sitting around on servers should they ever move to ARM, etc.
 
Unless Apple is content to become a supplier of electronic jewelry and fashion, it has to have some reasonable low end offerings, and have these soon.

This argument has been around for a long time - although replace chrome books with windows netbooks/cheap laptops.

If chrome books become more popular, that's good - macs becoming more of a niche will only increase their 'cool factor' make them more desirable and sales will rise again...
 
"OS X has been living a secret double life"
"OS X can now run on ARM processors"

Who said these?

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I'm not sure any of this is true. I'd be very surprised if the die size of any iterations of iPhone have been larger than Intel dies. Intel uses more than a billion transistors on even its simplest CPUs.

Also, MBP CPUs aren't much at the low end.. somewhere in the $200s. The 2.7 GHz 3820QM in my mid-2012 MBP was $568 new, and that was top of the line; the 2.6 GHz model I believe cost $200 less than that (and wasn't noticeably slower).

And remember, iPhones are a LOT of money off-contract ($800+). I'm not saying it costs Apple that much to make them, of course it doesn't.. but it's not the $200-400 sticker price you see in stores ;)

Do you think Apple pay that much? I would assume a processor costs Apple something like $30-40.
 
Has Apple launched a new product this year? And the "new" iMac and MacBook Air don't count.

Indeed, however remember.......................


CEO Tim Cook teased "the potential of exciting new product categories," and suggested that the company will announce new products in the fall. "We've got a lot more surprises in the works," Cook said. "Our teams are hard at work on some amazing new hardware, software, and services that we can't wait to introduce in the fall and into 2014. We continue to be very confident in our future product plans." Cook said that there will be "really great stuff coming in the fall and across all of 2014."

7 months almost gone, and pretty much nothing so far at all from Apple.

Let's hope we have an exciting time soon. I'm sure people are expecting a LOT, but so far seeing Zero from just a large company.
 
In a week there will be an analyst saying the 12" model has entered production and will be released in November.
 
I think there are quite a few people who do the same.

Yep.


Hatehatehate tap to click.

Usually the first thing I do is turn on firewall and block all incoming connections.

As for a 12"? Yawn.
 
CEO Tim Cook teased "the potential of exciting new product categories," and suggested that the company will announce new products in the fall. "We've got a lot more surprises in the works," Cook said. "Our teams are hard at work on some amazing new hardware, software, and services that we can't wait to introduce in the fall and into 2014. We continue to be very confident in our future product plans." Cook said that there will be "really great stuff coming in the fall and across all of 2014."

7 months almost gone, and pretty much nothing so far at all from Apple.

Let's hope we have an exciting time soon. I'm sure people are expecting a LOT, but so far seeing Zero from just a large company.

Eddie Cue said this year is one of there best lineups ever. Not seeing it so far. Not seeing anything actually.
 
Eddie Cue said this year is one of there best lineups ever. Not seeing it so far. Not seeing anything actually.

Indeed.

It does seem odd that, arguably, one of the biggest and some consider best quality consumer electronics companies on the world today, is happy to be seen to have nothing much to offer other than Amazing words, for a lot of the year.

I can only assume they are holding back, building up a stunning product line that they know is going to blow people away all on like one GIANT fireworks show.

I know some could see it as arrogance, feeling they don't have to have things to show and offer more evenly spread over the year.

It did seem to feel more balanced when you had the iPad in the 1st few months and the iphone in the last few months.

I wonder why they are happy to have such a long feeling dead zone?

The only really issue I guess is they know a LOT of people are hanging on promises, and if you say great things, and make people wait and wait these is going to be amazing expectation for them to deliver on their words.

Computer wise I don't think we are expecting much from Apple.
Phone wise we are expecting a 4.7" smoother case iphone a bit better spec.
iPad wize, the same as now, but with touch id and a bit faster.

The 5,5" phone is being poo poo'd a bit
the iWatch is feeling like not yet.

I suppose there may be actual surprises in a few months, but I'm not Feeling Anything yet.
 
Will the Broadwell delay mean the 12" rMBA will have a sapphire screen? Mixing up the rumors... ;)

But seriously, with such a long delay, Broadwell had better deliver.
 
Eddie Cue said this year is one of there best lineups ever. Not seeing it so far. Not seeing anything actually.

He specifically used the word "pipeline" which would indicate he wasn't talking about the first 6 months of the year but what is coming this fall.

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It did seem to feel more balanced when you had the iPad in the 1st few months and the iphone in the last few months.

I wonder why they are happy to have such a long feeling dead zone?
That's one of the only issues I have with Cook's leadership (well outside of political differences). I'm not sure why he decided to move almost all product launches to September/October time frame leaving 6-9 months of nothing where others can and do fill the vacuum with all this doom and gloom, Apple can't innovate anymore nonsense. Hopefully this is not a long term strategic decision. Ideally it would be nice to have new product launches each quarter.
 
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