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Apple Media Event All But Confirmed for September 12th, iPhone Launch Likely [Updated]

bbplayer5 said:
Literally a .5 inch larger phone than you already have. Camera will be marginally better, 4G (nearly all androids already have this), and NFC (all androids have this). iOS 6 = looks the same as every iOS ever made with a few new features you will probably rarely use.

/pass.
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To me, the OS is about productivity. I don't want to spend 3 weeks re-learning how to find things I knew how to do with ease before I upgraded. I want to get on and do what I need to do with my apps, and every now and then go "oh wow, they made that easier", or "that's a cool new feature". Incremental change for their OS (be it iOS, or OS X) is a great way to do things ... just keep refining it.

I for one, really love my 4S, but if the back is to change from the very fragile material used (I drop my phone a LOT), to the brushed steel look they are showing here, I see it as a good thing. As for the longer screen (if indeed this is the real thing)- why not? We have all seen the explanations as to why Apple made the phone the size it is, and the thinking behind it. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

In response to all the "Android has this, and Windows phones have that" posts .. surely it would be easier for you to go and buy one, and be done? I don't think Apple necessarily look at it that way .. As we can see from most of their other tech introductions, they find something that they can do better, and do it. It isn't about what other tech is capable of.

Having said all that, if Apple were to listen to all the posts like those listed in here, we'd end up with the Homer car (http://onscreencars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/TheHomer.jpg) and not a device that is predictable in nature, stable to a much larger extent than others, and an ecosystem that is second to none.

/end rant.
 
eyebex said:
I am sick of all this iPhone/iPad toy hype. I do need a new iMac though.:(
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To every thing (turn, turn, turn) there is a season (turn, turn, turn).

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Pock said:
Not sure how anyone could moan about this being an incremental update. A one piece chassis and rear plate, a different aspect ratio, improved camera and probably completely improved internals.

Change for the sake of change is not good engineering practice. It should be a steady evolution towards the ideal design.
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If it weren't so different, it would be exactly the same!
 
Pock said:
Not sure how anyone could moan about this being an incremental update. A one piece chassis and rear plate, a different aspect ratio, improved camera and probably completely improved internals.

Change for the sake of change is not good engineering practice. It should be a steady evolution towards the ideal design.
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Plus we don't even know what new features the next iPhone will have. IF this is the next iPhone (let's take a lesson from last year when rumors and case makers had it exactly wrong) then people complaining about the design are being 100% superficial.

To be honest, this longer iPhone 4 design doesn't exactly get my heart pumping, but it's a phone, not a sports car. I buy a phone for utility. If this next phone is lighter, a tad thinner, & more responsive than my iPhone 4 then it's already upgrade worthy AFAIC before I even know what "extras" Apple has planned for it.

OTOH, if this phone is materially heavier than my iPhone then it's a total fail. We'll just have to see what reality holds.
 
What are the specs of the next-generation iPhone? A quad-core CPU? Up to 64 or 128 GB storage? ...
 
Doh!

applefanDrew said:
That's why they put the glass strips at the top and bottom.
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But those glass strips - if they are glass, will not stop the two centre parts of the antennas touching across the back of the phone now that it's joined with that back plate will they? So you still have the short. The antennas are not just the short bits at the top and bottom you know, they go all the way around.
 
Indy21 said:
Do you guys/gals think Apple would allow this many questionable sources leak their new design and not comment on it?
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Of cause. Apple have said in the past that the Apple rumour mill does not bother them. Reasonable rumours or garbage rumours, they are all still rumours. More people talking about Apple. That kind of free promotion in a way Apple don't want to kill.

Apple just say nothing till release day and let people believe in whatever rumours they want to. Even if the rumours claim to "know" things. Apple knows only they are the reliable source of Apple info. So it's all good from their perspective.
 
Pock said:
Not sure how anyone could moan about this being an incremental update. A one piece chassis and rear plate, a different aspect ratio, improved camera and probably completely improved internals.

Change for the sake of change is not good engineering practice. It should be a steady evolution towards the ideal design.
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Exactly. I'm beginning to think of the iPhone in the same way as the Porsche Carrera whose iterative design you can trace back step by step. It was always a great design and it has received tweaks and refinements and it's still iconic and popular today.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
OTOH, if this phone is materially heavier than my iPhone then it's a total fail. We'll just have to see what reality holds.
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Don't reckon it'll be heavier than the current one. That's got the chassis AND then the glass back on top of that.

I know you can't tell for sure but looking at this vid, when he puts the part down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XY841RAY4Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=106s

It sounds like it weighs virtually nothing! And there's also the fact that the new screen tech is thinner / lighter.

If anything, I think one of Apple's big selling points for this new phone will be the use of high-spec materials (metal/glass, not plastic) to achieve a phone that's as thin & lightweight as 'cheaper' looking counterparts.

Also, it seems to me that the part could well be one single piece of metal and the 'glass' areas are simply polished metal rather than a different material.

I say that purely because the apple logo & name have exactly the same finish and it's extremely unlikely they're made of glass too?!
 
juannacho said:
Don't reckon it'll be heavier than the current one. That's got the chassis AND then the glass back on top of that.

I know you can't tell for sure but looking at this vid, when he puts the part down:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XY841RAY4Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=106s

It sounds like it weighs virtually nothing! And there's also the fact that the new screen tech is thinner / lighter.

If anything, I think one of Apple's big selling points for this new phone will be the use of high-spec materials (metal/glass, not plastic) to achieve a phone that's as thin & lightweight as 'cheaper' looking counterparts.
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Fingers crossed, but I keep thinking of the "iPad 3" iFixit video released before the new iPad was launched showing off the lighter, thinner glass panel. Of course, that turned out to be a real part, but the actual new iPad turned out to be slightly thicker and heavier than the iPad 2 b/c of the LTE chip and bigger battery.

The Samsung Galaxy IIIS is real competition for the iPhone, I'd say, not only because it runs smoothly and has a gorgeous screen, but also because it's featherweight. The iPhone 4 and 4S feel like bricks in comparison.

So I do hope you are right and reducing overall weight was a major priority for Apple. I will be disappointed if some parts are now lighter so they other heavier parts could be used to achieve the same avg. weight, or even slightly more. It's time the iPhone went on a diet.
 
Can't get why people are so anxious or already dismiss this one as a bad phone. Bad design etc.etc.

As one poster already said : I use it to do what I need to do.

I like my 4S, waiting out my contract and then I'll switch to the next version.

It would have to really suck big time for me to switch to anything else.
Not happening, incremental or not.

Also, why do people always need to compare ?

Android has this and that . Latest specs. Had it for years , better camera, bigger screen etc.etc.

Doesn't interest me in the least. Good for you and be happy with your Android. I am happy with my iphone and not in competition with Androids or anybody.
 
*Apple adds a slightly larger screen.

"Oh, Androids have had that for a long time now"

*Apple leaves the same size screen as before.

"OMG when will they catch up? They're so behind. Androids have had bigger screens since forever"

SHUT UP! If you like Android so much why do you feel the need to come to an Apple forum and post about all that crap we don't care about. Go away.
 
I've been stupid and bought a Nokia E71 few years ago. Well, maybe it wasn't that stupid back that days - our salaries here at Central/Eastern Europe is much lower than in US, and here are no Apple Stores to test device prior to buy.

But E71 is still working and working good as a dumb phone, nothing more (nevertheless I will not buy Nokia product in the near future again). So, I'm still waiting for my first real smartphone. Because of this I had enough time to analyse market to make not a stupid choice next time. We bought a 3GS for my wife, my colleague at work bought a Windows Phone (HTC Radar) by my advice (and she likes that phone so much despite the fact that she wanted Android) and few of my friends owns an Android phones - I was able to test all major OS, and this is my conclusion:

Android. Everything is wrong - home screen (no logic at all, just a mess, plus different mess for different vendors), battery life, unresponsive, glitchy and slow UI, hardware zoo and corresponding compatibility problems, apps quality, firmware update delays and phone life cycle.

Windows Phone. I'm a .NET programmer, so I've been hoping they will do their homework and will not make an Android mistakes. They did, almost - but despite the fact that they had a nice, original and smooth UI, uniform hardware requirements and copied Apple AppStore policies, they managed to screw it up by introducing it first with IE7 on board and then that big surprise with no update to WP8. And I feel that they will screw it again. And why should I buy something based on Apple ideas when I can buy an original?

So, my choice is iPhone, and I will buy it even with this leaked design (which maybe not the best, but now it looks better than on previous leaks), because design is not everything, and the OS, apps, build quality and software updates policy means a lot and no one else can do this better than Apple, at least for now.
 
I want this because I hate my Android phone. :(

I am on a 2 year contract with t-mobile. What's the cheapest way to get this new iPhone? I don't want to pay $600 for a phone.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Fingers crossed, but I keep thinking of the "iPad 3" iFixit video released before the new iPad was launched showing off the lighter, thinner glass panel. Of course, that turned out to be a real part, but the actual new iPad turned out to be slightly thicker and heavier than the iPad 2 b/c of the LTE chip and bigger battery.

The Samsung Galaxy IIIS is real competition for the iPhone, I'd say, not only because it runs smoothly and has a gorgeous screen, but also because it's featherweight. The iPhone 4 and 4S feel like bricks in comparison.

So I do hope you are right and reducing overall weight was a major priority for Apple. I will be disappointed if some parts are now lighter so they other heavier parts could be used to achieve the same avg. weight, or even slightly more. It's time the iPhone went on a diet.
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The thing with weight of objects, from hair dryers to smartphones, is that you walk a fine line between weight and perception of quality. If a phone, for example, feels too light, people may think it is cheap (as in plastic). And there isn't the same issue with prolonged muscle fatigue holding a phone that is 6 oz heavier than another, unless the phone weighs 1 lb.
 
All I know is this: if Apple includes a 4" (diagonal) screen, 3GPP LTE and NFC that is compatible with the Sony-developed "FeliCa" mobile payment standard and the upcoming ISIS mobile payment standard, it will become the hottest-selling cellphone ever.

Think about it--who's going to be buying the new iPhone? How about:

1. Millions of iPhone 4 users on the AT&T network coming off two-year contracts.

2. Millions of iPhone 4 (CDMA) users on the Verizon network coming off two-year contracts.

3. Millions of iPhone users in Japan and South Korea wanting an iPhone with built-in NFC for mobile payments.

4. Millions of iPhone users in Europe that want an improved iPhone.

5. It may be the first iPhone certified to run on China Mobile's network, which means a huge market for this model.

In short, from September 21 to the end of 2012, Apple may end up selling over 50 million iPhones worldwide, and will likely keep up this momentum well into 2013.
 
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