i know im right... ive tried it and it doesnt work
i provided evidence to support that... you have not
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Apple Modifies Boot ROM on Revised iPhone 3GS Models to Hinder Jailbreaking
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i know im right... ive tried it and it doesnt work
i provided evidence to support that... you have not
Why should I? You linked it.
uhh
are you serious?
to back up what you are saying....
bah... who needs silly things like facts, or supporting evidence... all americans need is faith! just believe hard enough and that makes it true
That's fine. Ignore me, several others that have pointed out that you're wrong including yourself and ignore simple logic.
You can sell your iPhone to someone else. They can take it to AT&T and get a sim/sign a contract and start using it right away.
That means you can sell the iPhone without having to jailbreak or unlock. Period.
You want to be able to maximize your profits. There's nothing WRONG with that. I never said there was. I stated quite clearly that no one is preventing you from selling your iPhone to someone else by eliminating jailbreaking. That is 100 percent true.
What you're able to sell that iPhone for is entirely a different matter. It's what the market will bear. Or is it bare.
Now. Someone tell me again how you can't sell your iPhone unless it's jailbroken?
You bought something that has lesser value from the start (a simlocked iphone) and you are going to resell it at a lesser value.
You can buy a house "leasehold" --- you own the actual building but you don't own the land. It's lesser value when you buy it, it's going to be lesser value when you resell it. You are in Vancouver --- plenty of leasehold properties in West End, False Creek and UBC.
http://www.first-time-buyer.ca/ownership_types/leasehold_property_vancouver.php
Sanpture was a jailbreak program. I have used it for over a year, excellent program but was only available to jailbreakers until Apple changed their restrictions in how the program uses the phones API's.
Seems like they are doing rather well for a bunch of pirates and hackers. The f'in criminals are now able to expolit all iphone users and steal their information and bring down the world.
http://www.snapturelabs.com/letter1.html
Imagine sme people wanting to enhance the iphone experieince
Are YOU serious? I suppose you want my resume then as "backup"? Or perhaps you could go through the thousands of posts I have made on MR over the past 2.5yrs?
The link I posted supported my statement more than your much older outdated link supports yours, but feel free to remain ignorant of the facts if you so choose.
http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2008/07/...h-any-att-sim/
yes, sure, but in the united states the courts have already decided that carriers must provide an unlock after the contract expires... apple pretends that there is no such thing as an unlock so they are getting out of this on a technicality
if i buy any other phone im entitled to sell it unlocked, by law, when my contract is up... not sure if this is the case in canada, but i would never sign up for a canadian plan anyhow
This is a total and utter logical response to the question at hand. It was well thought out and presented in a manor consistent with ease of understanding.
Which means that it will be difficult for some users to comprehend...
Best post of the week.
No such law exists in the US.
What the DMCA exemption means is that when Apple sues you for DMCA violation, you have a legal defense. DMCA exemption is your "get out of jail" card, it is not "force the carrier to give you an unlocking code" card.
I'm going to make this as clear as possible.
FACT: You stated that you cannot sell an iPhone which has not been jailbroken because it's useless.
FACT: You can sell an iPhone which has not been jailbroken and that person can use it on ATT with a brand new sim.
FACT: Your original point is wrong.
ok... your source is 2008 mine is 2007... yes its newer
still old though... yours is 15 months old mine is 23
i guess i stand corrected, but in your source it states that it still must be activated (which requires an iphone contract, or jailbreaking)
if someone were to buy a locked iphone off of me they would have to jailbreak it in order to activate it as soon as they update the firmware... so the point is moot
If they wanted to use it with anyone other than AT&T - true. But you can't make that statement generally. If they wanted to sign up for AT&T service they wouldn't need to jailbreak.
If this is what you call debating.. LOL
And what does my join date have anything to do with it. If Donald Trump joined the message board today would you say his opinion wasn't valid because he was a newbie? What about if Steve Jobs posted?
You have no idea who I am. What I do. How old I am or anything about me. You can ignore me all you want. But namecalling and implying my posting time on the website invalidates my opinion just make you look ridiculous.
You've been posting for years here and you clearly don't know the forum rules nor is your opinion any more valid than anyone elses.
I jailbroke for ONE reason.
To run GVMobile, that I legitimately payed for in the app store, before Apple removed it, which was broken by Google API updates and so there was no official way to run it or update my (PAID FOR) software.
So, I jailbroke, and now I have Google Voice via GV Mobile, as God intended.
If only GV Mobile would update with a speed dial section, everything would be perfect.
For the record, I don't pirate, I don't steal tethering, or any of the other malicious things you can do with a broken phone.
I just want to use my phone the way it is meant to be, as defined by me, not Apple.
To run GVMobile, that I legitimately payed for in the app store, before Apple removed it, which was broken by Google API updates and so there was no official way to run it or update my (PAID FOR) software.
So, I jailbroke, and now I have Google Voice via GV Mobile, as God intended.
If only GV Mobile would update with a speed dial section, everything would be perfect.
For the record, I don't pirate, I don't steal tethering, or any of the other malicious things you can do with a broken phone.
I just want to use my phone the way it is meant to be, as defined by me, not Apple.
Are YOU serious? I suppose you want my resume then as "backup"? Or perhaps you could go through the thousands of posts I have made on MR over the past 2.5yrs?
wow... 2.5 years! thousands of posts! i guess that means you are automatically right... nope dont question him, hes made thousands of macrumors posts in the last 2.5 years!
like a deity, or even maybe donald trump... lol
YOU'RE WRONG! WRONG! Have you not heard a word rlreif has been saying. It's impossible. He's right. Everyone else is wrong. Nanny Nanny Poo Poo. Waaaahhh I'm right. I know I'm right. I'm 100 percent right!!!!!!
/end sarcasm
Enjoy Verizon. I'm moving over to the iPhone after 6 years on Verizon. Their service hasn't motivated me to move from a Audiovox phone I bought in 2003. Zero incentive on improved minutes unless I double my bill, to random text message chargers on a service I never activated, etc.
Enjoy.
I think people who don't Jailbreak their Iphone are stupid consumers. It's like having Firefox and not use plugins, bookmarks or scripts. It's like having a PC and using Internet Explorer and Window Media Player. It's like having the power to throw fire and just cook eggs with it.
Anyway 4 Millions users only on it's ad network is enormous, and it's not suprising when I see that in fact a lot of casual users do jailbreak their Iphone.
Heck yeah, it's even because of the Jailbreak that Apple sold so many Iphone, the same way Sony sold that many Playstation because anyone could crack it.
Still wanna be a "good think" stupid person ? Well this ROM thing is an hypocrit promotion move from Apple, because what you may not know is that they give money to all of these Jailbreak/Unlock developers...
And the same way the Iphone is wonderful plateforme thanks to the possibility given by the jailbreak, Itunes and Safari are becoming really annoying and late on innovation because they block people from beiing able to developp on it and Apple doesn't do anything to developp innovation.
Anyway 4 Millions users only on it's ad network is enormous, and it's not suprising when I see that in fact a lot of casual users do jailbreak their Iphone.
Heck yeah, it's even because of the Jailbreak that Apple sold so many Iphone, the same way Sony sold that many Playstation because anyone could crack it.
Still wanna be a "good think" stupid person ? Well this ROM thing is an hypocrit promotion move from Apple, because what you may not know is that they give money to all of these Jailbreak/Unlock developers...
And the same way the Iphone is wonderful plateforme thanks to the possibility given by the jailbreak, Itunes and Safari are becoming really annoying and late on innovation because they block people from beiing able to developp on it and Apple doesn't do anything to developp innovation.
wow, dude. please stop before it gets more embarrassing.
look, if one person disagrees with you, may be they're wrong. If 10 different people disagree with you, take it more seriously. If 100 people disagree with you, chances are you're wrong.
In this case you're wrong. I bought an old 3g for my wife; phone was not JB'ed or unlocked. Popped in her old sim. It just worked.
And please don't respond by saying that you didn't count 10 or 100 people disagreeing with you.
On a different vein regarding this thread, I find it really interesting that some people who can show such righteous indignation regarding pirate apps, yet have no problem discussing and using tethering hacks to get unsupported, unpaid tethering. It's still stealing isn't it? For the record, I don't use pirate apps, but I do occasionally use Netshare (remember that app) which was legal in the App store for a few seconds there.
Well, if what's been said about Hackintoshing is right, then every jailbreaker is a pirate. The reason is that a person's legal use of the iPhone OS is contingent upon adherence to the SLA or EULA that corresponds to the iPhone OS. By jailbreaking an iPhone, a term or terms of the corresponding SLA or EULA is violated and the jailbreaker is in breach of contract. Also, by the terms of the SLA or EULA, if you violate some term or other of the SLA or EULA, then you no longer have a license to use the iPhone OS. Remember that end users do not own the copy of the iPhone OS on their phones; rather, Apple licenses it to consumers. Since Jailbreakers lose their license to use the iPhone OS after violating terms of the SLA or EULA, if they continue to use the iPhone OS after their SLA or EULA violation (i.e. jailbreaking) then they are using an unauthorized copy of a bit of software. Using an unauthorized copy of software is to commit copyright infringement.
People against Hackintoshing have pointed out that Hackintosh users are pirates even if they use a store bought copy of OSX and they don't make copies of that piece of software to sell for profit. To commit copyright infringement just is to be a pirate. If Hackintoshers are pirates, then so are jailbreakers. It doesn't matter whether you freely download apps that ordinarily cost money or not. Jailbreakers are pirates nonetheless. Welcome to the club everyone!