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Apple Music 4.1
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I know the series 2 needs a 2.4 GHz network not a 5 GHz.
[doublepost=1509760403][/doublepost]Are there any plans to bring streaming via WiFi to the Series 2 or even through your iPhone to the Watch?
Ok so here are my findings. I downloaded a bucket load of music locally to my Series 3 which i streamed to my AirPods. I have Apple music so i then enabled iCloud music on my phone. This allowed me to stream my music over wifi or lte to my AirPods. I thought that the list that appears under the library option on the watch was the locally stored music but i find that when playing that music, it was still streaming rather than using the local copies. I switched off icloud music on my phone and tried to play the music installed locally ion the watch and it was gone. None left. So it looks as if switching on icloud music deletes the local copies on the watch
I have several playlists synced to the watch (S3). They play just fine with the watch with LTE and Wifi turned off suggesting they are locally synced.
Also, I'm seeing some interesting behavior between the iPhone and watch now. On watchOS 4.1, my powerbeats 3 W1-enabled headphones appear to be connected both the iPhone and watch simultaneously.
I can be playing music from the iPhone and if I trigger an app that generates audio playback, e.g. just press record, the audio plays through the headphones.
Similarly I think the streaming music is being served through my iPhone to the watch, as the music initiated from the watch stops if I put the iPhone in airplane mode (I don't have LTE streaming enabled).
This is interesting and the net effect on an S3 is to be able to browse the music library on the iPhone from the watch at least for streaming.
However, I'm not able to play any music starting from the watch if the Wifi/cellular on the iPhone is disabled. I can't even start playing a song that I know to be downloaded on the iPhone. I.e, the watch does not seem to be able to play music stored on the iPhone. So this solution only works if you are using W1 enable headphones and have a continuous data connection.
I predominantly use non Apple headphones so this is not super useful for me. I think I see what the strategy was now. I think Apple wants this all to work together assuming that you buy an S3 and either AirPods or Beats headphones.
Do you have GPS or GPS/LTE S3? What music service are you using?
The W1 headphones allow you to stream from both the iPhone and AW, but non Apple headphones do not? (It was told to me on here that you need to switch the BT headphone audio source from say an iPhone to AW if you want to stream your iCloud music collection.)
It’s complicated. I have a cellular S3. Using the Apple Music service with iCloud library. It’s correct with non Apple Bluetooth headphones you have to pair to the watch. But it seems with the W1 chip the watch/phone can trade off using the Bluetooth headphones in some automated background process.
It’s still not ideal for me though. I want to play locally downloaded music from the iPhone for battery savings and when in the subway, etc. Also I like my Sony headphones too much to give them up.
Apple royally screwed this up. Removing the remote control feature will not push people to buy new AW's. It will just anger your customers.
I guess technically I could recoup my iTunes Match collection if I grudgingly purchase a GPS S3. I would just need to connect my BT headphones to my AW each time which is pretty annoying. The way things were prior to 4.0 made the most sense and Apple just made a colossal mistake. And people are saying they might bring this feature back but I seriously doubt it anytime soon. Perhaps with 5.0 next year, if then.
I was gifted an Apple Watch S3 (GPS+Cellular) and while I love the watch, I can't seem to wrap my head around the Music app. I don't own any wireless headphones. However, I do use the earphones (lightening) that come bundled with the iPhone when I'm travelling.
I know music can be controlled through the earphone controllers and often use it while keeping the phone in my pocket. I was under the belief that I could continue using the wired earphones and control the music on my phone through the watch. However, when I go to the music app on the watch, it forces me to connect to a wireless headphone. The only way to control music on the phone though the watch is when I ask Siri on the watch to play the songs. This can be a problem when I want to listen to music in my native language (Hindi/Punjabi) as Siri is not good goods at recognising songs originating from languages other than English.
Is there any work around to control music though the watch on my phone without having to go to Siri? Any help would be appreciated!
I know music can be controlled through the earphone controllers and often use it while keeping the phone in my pocket. I was under the belief that I could continue using the wired earphones and control the music on my phone through the watch. However, when I go to the music app on the watch, it forces me to connect to a wireless headphone. The only way to control music on the phone though the watch is when I ask Siri on the watch to play the songs. This can be a problem when I want to listen to music in my native language (Hindi/Punjabi) as Siri is not good goods at recognising songs originating from languages other than English.
Is there any work around to control music though the watch on my phone without having to go to Siri? Any help would be appreciated!
I know the process to connect a pair of non Apple BT headphones to the AW the first time, but anytime after how do you connect your headphones to the AW? For example my BT headphones connect to my iPhone every time I power them on. But what happens when I turn on my BT headphones after they have previously been paired to my iPhone and AW in the past? Do the headphones by default connect to the iPhone? And if so, how do I repair them with the AW?
It depends on the headphones. I know some of my non-apple bluetooth headsets connect to the last device they connected to and I can just select them in the Apple Watch Bluetooth setting and they will switch over to the watch. Others, I have to put them in pairing mode first and then select them in the bluetooth setting and they'll connect.
Are you referring to the actual settings menu within the Apple Watch? Also are you saying for some of your headphones you need to put them in pairing mode each time to use them with your Watch?
It sounds like consistently using non Apple headphones connected directly to your Apple Watch is a huge PITA.
It’s a pity how Apple has ruined the Music app functions. Playing my phone’s library by the Watch was one of the things I used to do the most with my watch. They even took off the Beats1 radio that I could play with watchOS 3.
And the most annoying thing is that in Spain only the Season 3 GPS version is sold, not the LTE one, and it can’t play Apple Music like the LTE; so I’ve lost a function that not even buying the newest watch would solve it.
And the most annoying thing is that in Spain only the Season 3 GPS version is sold, not the LTE one, and it can’t play Apple Music like the LTE; so I’ve lost a function that not even buying the newest watch would solve it.
From what I've been told on this forum you can play Apple Music and iTunes Match using the GPS model.
Really? I called Apple yesterday and the told me that I can’t, that I can only sincronize playlist o some albums as I do with my Season 2, but that I can’t use AM with Season 3 GPS.
I had doubts, but it’s true that in Apple.com they mention the “40 millions songs” thing etc, but in the Spanish web they don’t mention anything about Apple Music, and in Spain we can only buy the GPS one.
I don't know if it's a US thing only or not (Apple Music Watch access). I've been told by a few members here that the GPS S3 will indeed allow you to stream from iTunes Match and I believe Apple Music too. Other members will need to chime in and confirm/deny this.
I am referring to the actual menu on the watch. And yes, some of my headphones that use older Bluetooth standards, like my Motorola S305 (which I still love to use), I have to put in pair to use them with the watch. I have so many headphones I use:
-Beats Solo3
-Motorola S305
-Trekz Titanium (Bone conducting for when I bike)
-Soundmoov 316T (True wireless buds that only cost $30, good for my runs)
-I preordered Kanoa headphones that I lost my money on
-I currently Kickstarted those Anker Zolo Liberty+ True Wireless
I dont have Airpods because I truly have issues with the regular EarPods in terms of comfort. Out of all of these, my favorites are the Moto S305 which are discontinued, but I find them to be the most comfortable since they are over the ears in the style of those old Sony headphones that go behind the head instead of over the head.
Do any of these have the ability to be connected to two devices at the same time? If so, I wonder if you could be connected to your iPhone and Apple Watch at the same time. I'm starting to think that my X3's, which can be connected to two devices at once, would allow me the same flexibility of the W1 chip headphones.
-Definitely no on the Moto S305, that uses Bluetooth 2.0 +EDR
-Trekz Titanium use Bluetooth 4.1 and say they support multipoint connection, but I have never had them able to connect to two devices at the same time
-Beats Solo3 use the W1, but they quickly switch devices, they are not connected automatically to both
-SoundMoov use Bluetooth 4.1
Honestly I had other headsets I returned because I never was able to have them connected to two devices at the same time. How does that work with your X3s? Can you hear sound from both devices at the same time?
1. from the apple radio app you get beats1 for free.
2. tunin radio app has an apple watch app so you get normal stations from that
Yeah, if you can actually get the radio app to work. It keeps starting but never produces sound.
So I just tried this for the first time and it worked for me. I connected my Jaybird X3's to my Apple Watch and was able to listen to a song I had synced to the AW. I was then able to jump back to the X3's and listen to music and podcasts using different apps. When I turn my X3's off again and then back on I get the 'headphones connected' voice prompt twice. Essentially confirming the headphones are connected to both devices (iPhone and Apple Watch).
I don't know about sound at the same time. I would never want that.
This makes me want to sell my S1 and get a S3 GPS now so I can access my iTunes Match collection. Apple's horrible plan of removing a feature just so we can upgrade seems to be working sadly.
And I am planning on never buying an Apple Watch again becUse Apple can't be trusted
i had problems with both the radio app and the music app after i upgraded. eventually i had to log out of everything on iPhone. restart iPhone.. restart watch. log back in again