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rs0212

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Oct 28, 2014
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I don't care if this has been said before. But please put the Music app as it was, with an easy choice between artists, albums, songs and whatever you'd like. The current app is only more complicated, it helps no one, really.


I agree. I much prefer the iOS 8.3 version to the one that was released from 8.4 on...
 
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Tech198

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Mar 21, 2011
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Apple is embarrassed by "Connect" so their "hiding" it by moving it to "For Your" out of plain site to be clicked ?

hahaha. Wouldn't it just better to admit problems than cover it up?
 

viachicago22

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Sep 20, 2013
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I quite like Connect. A few alerts to upcoming tracks and albums, have been really useful and otherwise it's mostly harmless. It doesn't need to be more. I don't particulary want to interact with any of these people, nor do I want to see anyone else try.

I completely agree. Perhaps it's biggest failing is that it wasn't easier for artists to access/post (from what I understand). But as a news feed it's useful. I've learned about handfuls of new albums from scrolling it. Not sure I get the veracity of the backlash on it.
 

kolax

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Mar 20, 2007
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The Music app/iTunes are among the two worst interface designs ever. So bloated, doesn't do what I want in a straight forward way so makes the simple task of finding an artist and play a song tedious.
 

viachicago22

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Sep 20, 2013
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I know one of the rumored changes is making sharing music "more obvious" (which I assume meant sharing links) but does anyone know if there are plans to make the app itself more social? Like following friends, seeing what they're listening to, sharing music within the app?
 

mw360

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Aug 15, 2010
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What they need to also remove is the "Showing only music on this iPhone. Show all Music" banner at the top of the music list.

I don't need this ***** reminder every time I look at my music, I turned on the "show only music available offline" setting intentionally because I don't want random iTunes songs I got from various starbucks promos cluttering up my music list. I certainly don't need to be reminded of it all the time - at least give me a way to x-out the reminder.

It's there because not having any indication the list is filtered is just bad UI design. But this is also bad UI design, and they've had to do it because of other bad UI design choices. It's all just such a mess. Apple UI teams are completely rudderless since Jobs and Forstall went their seperate ways. Ive doesn't have a clue about UI and things like this are perfect examples. The banner is heavy handed (perfect phrase Elbon), but it's there because of the idiotic crazy of sweeping 'cruft' under the carpet where users may not find it just so we can all gaze lovingly at the acres of empty white screen and the spaces between the letters of his Helvetica fan font.

And what's particularly sad about this feature is how it says 'showing only music on this iPhone,' and the toggle switch says, 'Only downloaded music,' and underneath, 'Show only music available offline,' they need THREE different ways of describing it because everyone is so danged confused about where the music is. Leaders in UI are explaining this stuff with brilliantly designed UI and pictograms. Apple are just letting incoherent engineers babble into dialog boxes and hoping it works out.
 
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irishv

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Oct 27, 2008
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Exactly why my iPhone 5 is still on iOS 6. The music app.

Exactly why I moved my music library to my Synology NAS. Audio Station functions how I always wanted iTunes to function with my iPhone.

The funny thing is between this and Apple axing Aperture, I'm seeing less of a reason to own an Apple device.
 

DarrenSW

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Dec 28, 2006
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Maybe I could have Albums sorted alphabetically rather than by Artist first and then alphabetically? This is just one of the many 'features' that drive me nuts.

I hate the Music App, and I hate Apple Music: for a supposedly design-led company, the UI and usability of both of these is woeful.
 

Rogifan

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Nov 14, 2011
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It's there because not having any indication the list is filtered is just bad UI design. But this is also bad UI design, and they've had to do it because of other bad UI design choices. It's all just such a mess. Apple UI teams are completely rudderless since Jobs and Forstall went their seperate ways. Ive doesn't have a clue about UI and things like this are perfect examples. The banner is heavy handed (perfect phrase Elbon), but it's there because of the idiotic crazy of sweeping 'cruft' under the carpet where users may not find it just so we can all gaze lovingly at the acres of empty white screen and the spaces between the letters of his Helvetica fan font.

And what's particularly sad about this feature is how it says 'showing only music on this iPhone,' and the toggle switch says, 'Only downloaded music,' and underneath, 'Show only music available offline,' they need THREE different ways of describing it because everyone is so danged confused about where the music is. Leaders in UI are explaining this stuff with brilliantly designed UI and pictograms. Apple are just letting incoherent engineers babble into dialog boxes and hoping it works out.
Based on the rumors it's hard to know who was involved with the original app. The rumors say Ive's team is involved in the redesign which seems to me would mean they weren't involved with the original. Rumors I heard were the Beats team in LA was responsible not any software teams from Cupertino.
 

oneMadRssn

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Sep 8, 2011
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It's there because not having any indication the list is filtered is just bad UI design. But this is also bad UI design, and they've had to do it because of other bad UI design choices. It's all just such a mess. Apple UI teams are completely rudderless since Jobs and Forstall went their seperate ways. Ive doesn't have a clue about UI and things like this are perfect examples. The banner is heavy handed (perfect phrase Elbon), but it's there because of the idiotic crazy of sweeping 'cruft' under the carpet where users may not find it just so we can all gaze lovingly at the acres of empty white screen and the spaces between the letters of his Helvetica fan font.

And what's particularly sad about this feature is how it says 'showing only music on this iPhone,' and the toggle switch says, 'Only downloaded music,' and underneath, 'Show only music available offline,' they need THREE different ways of describing it because everyone is so danged confused about where the music is. Leaders in UI are explaining this stuff with brilliantly designed UI and pictograms. Apple are just letting incoherent engineers babble into dialog boxes and hoping it works out.

Well said, I agree.

I forgot where, probably the Isaacson book, but I read that Steve Jobs had a philisophy about UI that it should be immediately clear from the face of each button what the press will do. Specifically the text cited the differences between Windows and OS X buttons for the same thing:
- A windows dialog box asks, "the file has not been saved, are you sure you want to exist?" ok / cancel. What is ok? What is cancel? Will ok save the file?
- An osx dialog box asks, "the file has not been saved, are you sure you want to close?" save and close / don't save and close / cancel. Each choice makes it clear.

iOS today has stayed entirely too far from this philisophy. Many UI elements appear clickable but are not or vice-versa, UI elements are in a different order depending on where in the app flow they are, even within the same app or in native apps, too many inconsistent ways of saying the same thing, settings all over the place and not centralized.
 

bitslap47

macrumors 6502a
Jul 9, 2007
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Artists don't want to be connected to all of their fans intimately... many are very private... and Apple is trying to force something that just isn't going to happen.

Connect should be nothing more than curated content from sources artists already use (Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, etc.) that is presented in a thoughtfully laid out and accessible format.
 

mw360

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Aug 15, 2010
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Based on the rumors it's hard to know who was involved with the original app. The rumors say Ive's team is involved in the redesign which seems to me would mean they weren't involved with the original. Rumors I heard were the Beats team in LA was responsible not any software teams from Cupertino.

I half believe it, but half don't. There's clearly a culture clash in the UI design, but some things are too similar to recent Apple ticks for it to have been 100% independent. Maybe that's just the underlying framework, or the published UI guidelines. I don't know. I'll be surprised if the revamp makes it anything other that whiter though.
 

gnasher729

Suspended
Nov 25, 2005
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Here's the kind of things that absolutely pisses me off: Launched the "Books" app to listen to an audio book while on the underground. No WiFi, no mobile data. The app launches and stays on a white screen for a minute, doing _nothing_. With a dozen books stored _on my iPhone_, I can't listen to them because the bloody app decides I need internet access to do _anything_.
 
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Loge

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Jun 24, 2004
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What they need to also remove is the "Showing only music on this iPhone. Show all Music" banner at the top of the music list.

That banner is very annoying and the button is right by the search button, so it's easily pressed by mistake. And if you are only showing music on the phone, how about removing those pesky little phone icons from every track, since they are totally redundant in that scenario?
 
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maramok

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Mar 30, 2015
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Oh Connect. You never had a chance. I doubt any artist these days thinks to themselves, "I need another way to reach my fans". This is why services like IFTTT, hoot suite, etc exist, to simplify posting to the plethora of social media outlets out there.

All Apple needed to do was add the bands social media links to the Artist page, Simple and DONE.

"True simplicity is, well, you just keep on going and going until you get to the point where you go, 'Yeah, well, of course.' Where there's no rational alternative." - Jonathan Ive
 

lk400

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Aug 26, 2012
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"Oh man! I really like the connect tab!" - Nobody

I actually like it. I wish more artists use it, but some of the lesser known artists I like do use it. I've mangaged to find some good new music through them tagging other artists (eg that they performed with). It also is useful to know when new music is released. I don't have any other social media, so this is good for me.
 
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