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Find it kind of strange that they are playing edited rap music right now. Its not like we still cant tell they are saying the "N" word. Just heard a 2pac song with it edited.
 
Same here. None of my co-workers or friends have had this experience too.
There are a few things to keep in mind. The first is that there is more crime in lower income areas because the lower you are in the social ladder, the more likely you are to be tempted by "easy money" and the more the citizens of the community are surrounded by such influences. This is a social economic issue that is indirectly associated with race but minority groups are more likely to live and grow up in such neighborhoods.

A second point is that the crime in lower income areas leans much more towards blue collar type crime versus the white collar crime in higher income areas. The police officers experience this in their cities and it has a significant affect in how they patrol.

People forget that police officers are humans that are flawed and subject to react emotionally just like each human person. People officers are people, not robots. In general, they are no different than each one of us. When police officers have to consistently deal with people who hate you and want to hurt them and who force them to use violence to deal with violence then they become numb to dealing with people. Obviously, the higher the crime rate in the city, the more likely the police force is to be tired and worn out emotionally.

Better education and better economic opportunities is the only solution to this problem. Once that happens, crime will drop, the police force won't be so stressed out, and we will achieve real change. The current protests and token efforts by corporate America are 1 step forward and 2 steps backward.
As a person who is clean-cut, with no charges, not convictions, a squeaky-clean record, solid, long-term employment for decades and is generally polite in all my interactions, I have had my hands in cuffs and in a squad car more times than I can count. Usually, because I was in too nice of a car, in an area I was unexpected to be in, or the size of the group I was in was "unsettling". Every time I was let go — warned about something I was never doing — and expected just understand that my time and my privacy was immaterial to a flex of power... often just hoping to trip us up.

Not all cops do this — but even the "good" ones stay silent when their bothers over-reach. We need them to do better, and they need to be held accountable for when they come up short. We rely on them for order, protection, and maintaining the peace and therefor must be held to a higher, if not more equal, standard.
 
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I dont have any privileged perspective. If you want me to assume that your experience is representative of the actual reality of the situation, maybe you have some statistic data to suppor your porposition that its more likely to be pulled over by the cops jsut because your are black (compared to the proportional % of the population you are representing) and you are also more likely to be fined, right? This would provde that black persons are generally treated less favorably just because they are black and prove me wrong, would you agree?

Something like this?

 
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There it is! MLK, the role model. Guess what happened? Assassinated.

Colin to a peaceful knee but was called a son of a bitch.

Exactly.
But 8,000,000 Jehovah's Witnesses do not salute the flag.
Nor do 200,000 Ahmish.
One man takes a knee and the world comes to an end.
Maybe if people in power would have taken the stance seriously America wouldn't be on fire now.
The NFL makes a statement, about equality that is so hypocritical it isn't even funny.
Colin asked about equal treatment and he was banned.

The NFL said everything they needed to say when he was banned from the league.
F the NFL and I'll never watch another game.

Freedom was never given. It is always taken at gunpoint.
Those in power will never give it up unless forced.
 
In my view, all these things such as BLM, where they are focusing your attention to specific groups of people just further creates a divide between race and religions - if there was an all lives matter, this would mean that we are unison and strong together...
 
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Utter non-sense.

BLM is not saying ONLY black lives matter, rather it is saying "Hey, over here...our lives DO matter because it certainly seems as if it doesn't to most people"

In addition it is taking to the police and saying do not kill us with impunity. When was the last time you saw a white man strangled to death on video by police?

Anyway it was stupid discussing this with a bunch of people who are too fragile to accept their deficiencies. I'm out!
As we saw in Dallas BLM is not racist. They are willing to kill cops of every race.
 
As a person who is clean-cut, with no charges, not convictions, a squeaky-clean record, solid, long-term employment for decades and is generally polite in all my interactions, I have had my hands in cuffs and in a squad car more times than I can count. Usually, because I was in too nice of a car, in an area I was unexpected to be in, or the size of the group I was in was "unsettling". Every time I was let go — warned about something I was never doing — and expected just understand that my time and my privacy was immaterial to a flex of power... often just hoping to trip us up.

Not all cops do this — but even the "good" ones stay silent when their bothers over-reach. We need them to do better, and they need to be held accountable for when they come up short. We rely on them for order, protection, and maintaining the peace and therefor must be held to a higher, if not more equal, standard.

You and I have the same experience.
Like I said
I have never been arrested.
Multiple degrees in engineering.
Always employed and clean cut.

But I have been in cuffs on the side of the road more times than I can remember and never received a ticket for any time I was in cuffs.

Every time a cop pulls behind me my pulse races and I get sweaty.
Not because I've done anything wrong, but because I know there is a high probability that I might end up on the ground or in the back of the car in cuffs for nothing.

I suffer from PTSD when it comes to cops.
My journey with being stopped for nothing started at 12 or 13 walking in a white neighborhood where I lived.
They took me home because they thought I was lying about my address.

I don't have a lot of pleasant experiences with cops.
 
Im not looking for any justification. You say that the cop used excesive force just to look "cool"? Really? And Im the one speculating? Officers are trained in restraining suspects and this includes get the suspect down and push him against the groud. The cop just ****ed up and used to much preassure. That is the whole story.

They beat him in the car, then pulled him out onto the ground while still restrained for much longer then they are trained to do. This is not speculation, as there is footage of the events.

Floyd died by accident and nothing in the footage that was published so far shows that he was killed on purpose. The officer tought that Floyd was faking that he cannot breath just to start resisting again just as he was doing in the car a few moments ago.
He's trained to know better — he chose not to act accordingly. Police need to be held to a higher standard if they are the enforcers of justice.

Floyd was dumb enough to resist an arrest and the police oficer was dump enough to not follow the appropirate procedure in this situation.
For the last time — he did not resist arrest. that's a lazy and unsubstantiated claim.

Saying that Floyd was treated the way he was treated because he is black is absurd. What if the cop's wife was black? Would you still insist that the cop is racist and killed Floyd because he is black?
What is absurd is the mental gymnastics needed to justify this.

No, then everything you try to justifce is pure speculation that is based on rethoric that is statistically false.
Everything I said I just backed up. Feel free to prove me wrong, though I know I won't get a response.
 
But what you talk about, the "us vs them" dynamic was not created by nor perpetuated by black folks.
We didn't ask for nor support 100 years of Apartheid.
We didn't ask for segregation.
We didn't ask for red lining in loans and insurance.
We didn't ask for brutality in policing.
All we asked for was to be seen and treated as equals, with equal opportunities and a fair shake.
Every time we ask or demand to be treated equal, we get treated like we are asking for something we should not expect.

This is kinda what I’m talking about.

We should be able to discuss things without attacking the other side once you start attacking people, they will respond defensively, which will turn into more attacks, then round and round you go.

BTW, as far as I’m concerned, you and I are having a discussion as equals. I’ve never treated anyone else as lesser based on race.
 
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MLK was a role model in how to handle things. But there existed restraint back then.
Update your history — MLK was the poster child for civil disobedience. He would be kicked and pepper-sprayed if he were alive today, as many many protesters who have been quietly and civilly sitting in have been beaten, kicked, trampled and shot with rubber bullets.

Today, bad actors are infiltrating and no one in these movements is keeping that in check. Respect lost in the outcome.
Many of these bad actors have nothing to do with the movement at all. You cannot keep in check what you are not apart of.
 
I'm not even in the States lol and i'm getting this propaganda while i'm paying for a paid service??

Geez and don't get me wrong i'm against racism, i hate be called "guero" by some "brownies" here. Specially by the garbabe man lol. Should i fight them or that's a compliment?.

and what about blacking the Apple Store and Apple Music Store too? oh no... that's money for Apple....$$ double moralists.
 
There it is! MLK, the role model. Guess what happened? Assassinated.

Colin to a peaceful knee but was called a son of a bitch.

Collin has nothing to do with this, he got paid millions to play football. Just like many don’t need or want Hollywood getting in their lives. Your roles are to entertain and do something you love. Many careers have been ruined by trying to do something they aren’t cut out to do.

MLK has one mission. Collin didn’t go into the NFL to start a movement. But at least he can own his path forward. That’s accountability.

And many others have been shot for their causes. Bad actors exist. It’s our job to single those bad actors out, not make blanket assumptions. To do that is short sighted and naive.

I raise my son to not see color but character. That’s what defines each of us. Choose wisely.
 
You are wrong.
In this country it is unlikely that if not caught on camera that if a white cop kills a black man it will ever be investigated. That's the disparity.
Even with a camera, it gets ignored.
Look how long it even took to charge in this case and they haven't even charged the other cops.

The city of Dallas fought hard to not have the body cam footage of Timpa's death released. His death was ruled as a drug overdose (the same diagnosis, by the way, that the Minneapolis county examiner tried to give to Floyd). Coincidence, or a diagnosis used as a convenient coverup? You decide. So yes, the city tried to keep it quiet, and the cops were essentially let off the hook for a death that shouldn't have happened.

Unfortunately, injustice is also colorblind, my friend.
 
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What is a guero? Is a brownie a black person?


Interesting, learned something new today.

When I went to Peru I got called gringo by a lot of people there (they didn't see it as racist (I think)) and it didn't bother me.
 
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In my view, all these things such as BLM, where they are focusing your attention to specific groups of people just further creates a divide between race and religions - if there was an all lives matter, this would mean that we are unison and strong together...
ALL lives matter misses the nuance that is real life. There is a time for a general message and a time to be specific. This is a nuanced issue, so a general statement misses the point. The spirit is appreciated but undermines the reality is that from the police's perspective there isn't a parity to galvanize yet.
 
Like your fuhrer Trump is trying to do today.

My Trump? You're assuming things about me and you're the one calling for exterminating people like flies... Uh... really?

You know what makes racists bad? They assume things (usually negative) about people. And what did you just do? You're in the same boat.
 
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They didn’t take down search so I don’t have to listen to music I’m not interested in.
 
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