Same here. None of my co-workers or friends have had this experience too.
As a person who is clean-cut, with no charges, not convictions, a squeaky-clean record, solid, long-term employment for decades and is generally polite in all my interactions, I have had my hands in cuffs and in a squad car more times than I can count. Usually, because I was in too nice of a car, in an area I was unexpected to be in, or the size of the group I was in was "unsettling". Every time I was let go — warned about something I was never doing — and expected just understand that my time and my privacy was immaterial to a flex of power... often just hoping to trip us up.There are a few things to keep in mind. The first is that there is more crime in lower income areas because the lower you are in the social ladder, the more likely you are to be tempted by "easy money" and the more the citizens of the community are surrounded by such influences. This is a social economic issue that is indirectly associated with race but minority groups are more likely to live and grow up in such neighborhoods.
A second point is that the crime in lower income areas leans much more towards blue collar type crime versus the white collar crime in higher income areas. The police officers experience this in their cities and it has a significant affect in how they patrol.
People forget that police officers are humans that are flawed and subject to react emotionally just like each human person. People officers are people, not robots. In general, they are no different than each one of us. When police officers have to consistently deal with people who hate you and want to hurt them and who force them to use violence to deal with violence then they become numb to dealing with people. Obviously, the higher the crime rate in the city, the more likely the police force is to be tired and worn out emotionally.
Better education and better economic opportunities is the only solution to this problem. Once that happens, crime will drop, the police force won't be so stressed out, and we will achieve real change. The current protests and token efforts by corporate America are 1 step forward and 2 steps backward.
I dont have any privileged perspective. If you want me to assume that your experience is representative of the actual reality of the situation, maybe you have some statistic data to suppor your porposition that its more likely to be pulled over by the cops jsut because your are black (compared to the proportional % of the population you are representing) and you are also more likely to be fined, right? This would provde that black persons are generally treated less favorably just because they are black and prove me wrong, would you agree?
This comment thread is an absolute goldmine of “All Lives Matter” types to add to my ignore list. Thanks Tim Cook for flushing more of them out from the shadows!
There it is! MLK, the role model. Guess what happened? Assassinated.
Colin to a peaceful knee but was called a son of a bitch.
All you need to do is research and educate yourself: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a27075028/black-lives-matter-explained/In my view, all these things such as BLM, where they are focusing your attention to specific groups of people just further creates a divide between race and religions - if there was an all lives matter, this would mean that we are unison and strong together...
As we saw in Dallas BLM is not racist. They are willing to kill cops of every race.Utter non-sense.
BLM is not saying ONLY black lives matter, rather it is saying "Hey, over here...our lives DO matter because it certainly seems as if it doesn't to most people"
In addition it is taking to the police and saying do not kill us with impunity. When was the last time you saw a white man strangled to death on video by police?
Anyway it was stupid discussing this with a bunch of people who are too fragile to accept their deficiencies. I'm out!
As a person who is clean-cut, with no charges, not convictions, a squeaky-clean record, solid, long-term employment for decades and is generally polite in all my interactions, I have had my hands in cuffs and in a squad car more times than I can count. Usually, because I was in too nice of a car, in an area I was unexpected to be in, or the size of the group I was in was "unsettling". Every time I was let go — warned about something I was never doing — and expected just understand that my time and my privacy was immaterial to a flex of power... often just hoping to trip us up.
Not all cops do this — but even the "good" ones stay silent when their bothers over-reach. We need them to do better, and they need to be held accountable for when they come up short. We rely on them for order, protection, and maintaining the peace and therefor must be held to a higher, if not more equal, standard.
As we saw in Dallas BLM is not racist. They are willing to kill cops of every race.
Im not looking for any justification. You say that the cop used excesive force just to look "cool"? Really? And Im the one speculating? Officers are trained in restraining suspects and this includes get the suspect down and push him against the groud. The cop just ****ed up and used to much preassure. That is the whole story.
He's trained to know better — he chose not to act accordingly. Police need to be held to a higher standard if they are the enforcers of justice.Floyd died by accident and nothing in the footage that was published so far shows that he was killed on purpose. The officer tought that Floyd was faking that he cannot breath just to start resisting again just as he was doing in the car a few moments ago.
For the last time — he did not resist arrest. that's a lazy and unsubstantiated claim.Floyd was dumb enough to resist an arrest and the police oficer was dump enough to not follow the appropirate procedure in this situation.
What is absurd is the mental gymnastics needed to justify this.Saying that Floyd was treated the way he was treated because he is black is absurd. What if the cop's wife was black? Would you still insist that the cop is racist and killed Floyd because he is black?
Everything I said I just backed up. Feel free to prove me wrong, though I know I won't get a response.No, then everything you try to justifce is pure speculation that is based on rethoric that is statistically false.
But what you talk about, the "us vs them" dynamic was not created by nor perpetuated by black folks.
We didn't ask for nor support 100 years of Apartheid.
We didn't ask for segregation.
We didn't ask for red lining in loans and insurance.
We didn't ask for brutality in policing.
All we asked for was to be seen and treated as equals, with equal opportunities and a fair shake.
Every time we ask or demand to be treated equal, we get treated like we are asking for something we should not expect.
Update your history — MLK was the poster child for civil disobedience. He would be kicked and pepper-sprayed if he were alive today, as many many protesters who have been quietly and civilly sitting in have been beaten, kicked, trampled and shot with rubber bullets.MLK was a role model in how to handle things. But there existed restraint back then.
Many of these bad actors have nothing to do with the movement at all. You cannot keep in check what you are not apart of.Today, bad actors are infiltrating and no one in these movements is keeping that in check. Respect lost in the outcome.
What a dumbass comment.I swear man! Need to crush them like flies.
There it is! MLK, the role model. Guess what happened? Assassinated.
Colin to a peaceful knee but was called a son of a bitch.
You are wrong.
In this country it is unlikely that if not caught on camera that if a white cop kills a black man it will ever be investigated. That's the disparity.
Even with a camera, it gets ignored.
Look how long it even took to charge in this case and they haven't even charged the other cops.
I swear man! Need to crush them like flies.
Geez and don't get me wrong i'm against racism, i hate be called "guero" by some "brownies" here.
It's funny, when certain people say that, they're patriotic. When others say it, it is taken as a threat.Freedom was never given. It is always taken at gunpoint.
Those in power will never give it up unless forced.
What is a guero? Is a brownie a black person?
ALL lives matter misses the nuance that is real life. There is a time for a general message and a time to be specific. This is a nuanced issue, so a general statement misses the point. The spirit is appreciated but undermines the reality is that from the police's perspective there isn't a parity to galvanize yet.In my view, all these things such as BLM, where they are focusing your attention to specific groups of people just further creates a divide between race and religions - if there was an all lives matter, this would mean that we are unison and strong together...
Like Hitler tried to do the Jews? The similarities are astounding...
Like your fuhrer Trump is trying to do today.