Apple Music Joins Music Industry's Blackout Tuesday Awareness Campaign

[techwhiz]

Kind of funny that this is all blowing up over a black guy being killed by cops.. but the group of cops were as racially diverse as you can get. It's almost like it isn't cops vs black people, but instead, ****** cops against everyone. I mean, it was literally a white cop, a black cop, and asian cop, and a hispanic cop.

No it's about how incredulous the police can be when arresting and detaining Black folks.
So we have a Black man that supposedly passed a bad $20. If he were white, they would have checked his wallet for other fake bills. They would have take his name and done an investigation.

It's about Breonna Taylor that was killed while sleeping, when police entered he house and shot it up.
She was an EMT and her boyfriend shot at someone kicking in the door. They did not announce themselves as police.
Now she's dead and the cops are on "administrative leave".

We have a white spree killer that got none of the treatment of Floyd when he got arrested.
But it's never about race. Whatever...

It's not about ONE guy. It's about how police treat Black people and other people of color in general.

 

[DevNull0]

I completely agree — it's not a black and white thing. It's a blue shield thing.

Absolutely. And by making it a race thing the state keeps all the people at each others throats so they don't realize what is going on.

 

[nt5672]

It's all about race.
White people don't have talks with their children about how to survive a traffic stop.
I had the talk.
I have given my children the talk.
Richard Pryor had a great but sad skit about a traffic stop. Google Richard Pryor traffic stop joke.
It was real then. It's real now.

The part about "White people" and traffic stops is completely false. Every White person I have known have been given the talk about how to act when stopped by police. It is stupid not to educate young people for any race. A person in authority with a gun telling you to do something is potentially a life changing event and it should be treated as such.

In addition, if this talk is being given to minority youths, it does not appear to be given very well. The videos of traffic stops I've seen seem to me to show disrespect, privilege, and hatred, which is going be a problem for any race when confronting authority.

I grew up part time in a rural area and not only did we have a problem with cops (because he was a drunk and it was easy to get on his bad side) but we had to be very careful of the conservation department. They have the authority to enter your property and into your house without a warrant and inspect anything they want for any reason they want and arrest you. Bet you did not know that. Our local cop picked on anyone he decided, on any given day, he disliked. So I was trained in how to handle authority from a young age.

Anyway you should not feel so privileged, bad cops are bad cops everywhere. Today there are more bad cops than racist cops.

A lot of people don't get the message that no matter how much you feel your rights are being trampled on, you don't resist authority. Period, no excuse. It is up to your lawyer to resist, it is up to public opinion to resist, etc.

"It was real then. It's real now." is exactly true. It is also true for all races.

 

[FlyGuyDEN]

So we are never allowed to complain when we feel like Apple is doing something wrong? Got it. It doesn't matter if its just for one day. I am paying for a service that is interrupted INTENTIONALLY. Unintentional outages like internet outages and server issues are another thing. This is INTENTIONAL. I work hard for my money and don't want to waste it.

Losing one day of service isn't wasting your money. if you don't like Apple's decision then unsubscribe.

And to be clear-I subscribe to AM. I was in a mood last night and was listening to Music. I saw the whole For You page had been blocked out and I was like WTF is going on? Then I saw the message we are all seeing-and was wholly delighted. What a great way to send a message that change is needed-and NOT just in the USA. The USA doesn't have a monopoly on racism or police brutality. The oppressed are speaking up. If you can't handle a little bit of inconvenience from a music service in service of humanity's greater good you're the epitome of entitled.

 

[russell_314]

Same here. None of my co-workers or friends have had this experience too.

I can say my black friends don’t feel this way either. Perhaps most of them being law enforcement has something to with it 😂

 

[Websnapx2]

It's not entitlement when you pay for something to recieve that thing as it was described. Apple didn't advertise political ads for their special interests for only $14.99 per month.

Also, keep giving me more reasons to never agree with this BS

No, it's entitlement when that is the primary concern right now with everything that is going on. it's not an ad, it's support for a movement and it is completely in your right to cancel your subscription if you feel slighted. Just keep in mind that it is a manufactured, and overblown concern. I don't freak out when Taylor Swift, Beyonce or any other artist takes over the browse tab either — I just do what you can do now, search for what you want because it is all still there and accessible.

 

[pearvsapple]

“Thank you Apple.”
They then proceed to loot Apple stores... LMAO

 

[techwhiz]

I’d be willing to bet it’s more of African Americans statistically have less money. If you don’t have money then you can’t afford a lawyer. I don’t know if you’ve ever been arrested for anything but having a public defender is pretty much pleading guilty regardless if you are or not. If you have a good lawyer even if the evidence shows you might be guilty there’s a chance you’ll be found not guilty. A good example of that is O.J. Simpson. Our justice system is based on money so if you don’t have money you’ll get chewed up and spit out

Statistically less money because for 100 years of Apartheid; while white people were building wealth, we were denied access to housing, education, employment and other basic services.
We then get told, everything is equal and you should be doing better.
So tell me, if you enter a race and you hold half the participants at the starting line for a significant period of the race, how do you think they will do?

But its more than the money, it's the judges that sentence a black man for the same crime more severely than the white man.
You saw this with Brock after he raped the woman at Stanford. The judge said it wasn't necessary to ruin that white boy's life. Why not, he ruined the woman's life. But once again, a white man's life in America is more valuable than any other life.
In Louisiana you could be convicted of a capital crime with a 10-2 split on a jury. SCOTUS has found that unconstitutional.
There are black men sitting in prison for crimes they didn't commit.
Recently a man was released after he spent 3 decades in jail because prosecutors wanted to close a case and chose a lack man. We ca talk about The Central Park Five.
I can go on an on. Just think, if they do this with cameras rolling, what did they do before cameras?

 

[killr_b]

No, it's entitlement when that is the primary concern right now with everything that is going on. it's not an ad, it's support for a movement and it is completely in your right to cancel your subscription if you feel slighted. Just keep in mind that it is a manufactured, and overblown concern. I don't freak out when Taylor Swift, Beyonce or any other artist takes over the browse tab either — I just do what you can do now, search for what you want because it is all still there and accessible.

You don't get to interrupt my paid service because you feel like it. That is the literal definition of entitlement attitude.

And I did call Apple to yell at them about my one day of service interruption.

 

[Menneisyys2]

I wonder if Apple also disrupts their service for the owners of the looted shops? And, particularly, the storeowner in the following video? (WARNING: graphic content!)

 

[techwhiz]

I can say my black friends don’t feel this way either. Perhaps most of them being law enforcement has something to with it 😂

I have relatives in law enforcement, and it takes them to tell you about abuse of power while they are in plain clothes driving to the store.

 

[centauratlas]

.... awareness campaign message....

Not directed to anyone in particular, but I am surprised that anyone thinks that anyone else isn't "aware" of this.

It seems very condescending to think that people aren't aware. Lots of virtue signaling without accomplishing much. People who REALLY want to do something should STOP advocating for SOMEONE ELSE to do something and go do something positive themselves.

 

[russell_314]

The part about "White people" and traffic stops is completely false. Every White person I have known have been given the talk about how to act when stopped by police. It is stupid not to educate young people for any race. A person in authority with a gun telling you to do something is potentially a life changing event and it should be treated as such.

In addition, if this talk is being given to minority youths, it does not appear to be given very well. The videos of traffic stops I've seen seem to me to show disrespect, privilege, and hatred, which is going be a problem for any race when confronting authority.

I grew up part time in a rural area and not only did we have a problem with cops (because he was a drunk and it was easy to get on his bad side) but we had to be very careful of the conservation department. They have the authority to enter your property and into your house without a warrant and inspect anything they want for any reason they want and arrest you. Bet you did not know that. Our local cop picked on anyone he decided, on any given day, he disliked. So I was trained in how to handle authority from a young age.

Anyway you should not feel so privileged, bad cops are bad cops everywhere. Today there are more bad cops than racist cops.

A lot of people don't get the message that no matter how much you feel your rights are being trampled on, you don't resist authority. Period, no excuse. It is up to your lawyer to resist, it is up to public opinion to resist, etc.

"It was real then. It's real now." is exactly true. It is also true for all races.

Exactly. When I’m stopped both my hands are on the steering wheel with my drivers license and insurance card in my left hand. When the officer approaches my car I greet him and hand him my paperwork. No sudden moves or arguing with him. I don’t know this person from anyone else but I do know he has a gun and could kill me so I’m not about to be stupid

 

[techwhiz]

I wonder if Apple also disrupts their service for the owners of the looted shops? Or this lynched guy? (WARNING: graphic content!)

Let's be clear looters are not legitimate demonstrators.
You have looters of all colors and they are criminals taking advantage of Coid and Floyd's death.
People demonstrating peacefully do not support nor condone that behavior.
What they didn't show was demonstrators trying to barricade store in multiple places only to be overrun by looters.

 

[Websnapx2]

I don’t think a good argument could be made to justify that officer's actions. well I’m not in some sort of jury so I don’t feel qualified to judge him if I was a betting man my bet would be on him being found guilty. I can’t see any reason why he was using that amount of force.

I'm glad we agree completely.

This has nothing to do with Apple virtue signaling.

I wasn't applying that to Apple's actions — you commented that the move wasn't illegal and I replied in the context you commented. I'll ignore the goalpost being moved.

Perhaps their marketing department calculated this will help them with African American sales IDK. I just hate when politics gets shoved into everything

Ok, I guess I'm not ignoring it — I think this has more to do with standing in solidarity with artists, creatives and personalities that wanted to show this sign of protest. I feel you are looking for something that isn't there but none of us will know that for sure.

 

[Ethosik]

Losing one day of service isn't wasting your money. if you don't like Apple's decision then unsubscribe.

And to be clear-I subscribe to AM. I was in a mood last night and was listening to Music. I saw the whole For You page had been blocked out and I was like WTF is going on? Then I saw the message we are all seeing-and was wholly delighted. What a great way to send a message that change is needed-and NOT just in the USA. The USA doesn't have a monopoly on racism or police brutality. The oppressed are speaking up. If you can't handle a little bit of inconvenience from a music service in service of humanity's greater good you're the epitome of entitled.

Yes it is a waste of money if I do not get what I pay for. Even for a single day, its still a days worth of money wasted. This is definitely NOT a great way to handle this situation. Is Apple Music the savior that will decide the outcome of this crisis? There are much better platforms and actions to take during this situation than disrupting someone's PAID membership.

 

[Expos of 1969]

Losing one day of service isn't wasting your money. if you don't like Apple's decision then unsubscribe.

And to be clear-I subscribe to AM. I was in a mood last night and was listening to Music. I saw the whole For You page had been blocked out and I was like WTF is going on? Then I saw the message we are all seeing-and was wholly delighted. What a great way to send a message that change is needed-and NOT just in the USA. The USA doesn't have a monopoly on racism or police brutality. The oppressed are speaking up. If you can't handle a little bit of inconvenience from a music service in service of humanity's greater good you're the epitome of entitled.

What nonsense. The "music service in service of humanity's greater good"... wow....The oppressed are speaking up in the streets. Tim Cook is trying to pretend he is behind them for business reasons. But where he fails is that smart business people give customers what they paid for and he is clearly not doing that today. If he was smart he would have explained what he was doing and told subscribers that they all would get one month of Apple Music for free in the event today's action (PR stunt) had inconvenienced them. He took and gave nothing back.

 

[Ethosik]

What nonsense. The "music service in service of humanity's greater good"... wow....The oppressed are speaking up in the streets. Tim Cook is trying to pretend he is behind them for business reasons. But where he fails is that smart business people give customers what they paid for and he is clearly not doing that today. If he was smart he would have explained what he was doing and told subscribers that they all would get one month of Apple Music for free in the event today's action (PR stunt) had inconvenienced them. He took and gave nothing back.

Yes I agree. This isn't the best platform for this type of statement anyway.

 

[NickName99]

I can’t believe how many people are opposing a movement that is only trying to stop police from disproportionately killing black people. I mean, that’s too much to ask? Seriously?

 

[Ethosik]

I can’t believe how many people are opposing a movement that is only trying to stop police from disproportionately killing black people. I mean, that’s too much to ask? Seriously?

Not wanting a service I pay for to be disrupted does not equal me opposing a movement. Not even close. I have stated that what the cop did was wrong and am all for the movement, but doing this to Apple Music is not the place and it is just frustrating to paying customers.

Peaceful protests are all fine. Movements are all fine. But I have problems with disrupting a service I pay for that I use to relax and help my mental issues to take my mind off things.

As I have said, is this really the ONLY WAY things can change? Boy without Apple Music doing this our country would NEVER change. No. There are better ways to protest and deal with this issue.

 

[Websnapx2]

Its wrong what happened. And bad cops do exist. But has it been confirmed that it was a race thing, or just that cop being mean to anyone?

His past suggests it — though an investigation is hard to have completed by this time and with everything that is going on. The larger issue at hand is — from a systemic perspective — black people are handled with a much heavier hand than most other groups and this is seen as one of many examples of that fact, and how the Blue Sheild protects that behaviour.

There are strong examples that this whole situation would have been handled much differently of the initial suspect was not black — both in the level of escalated aggression, and in the quickness and severity of the repercussions to the officers involved.

I say this with emphatic certainty — there would be no riots and no media blackout had the MNPL PD acted swiftly and fairly before being forced to do so due to public outcry. This is why we are angry — we feel the reaction to this whole situation would have been handled differently if he wasn't black and that is not on white people that is on the police, the blue shield, and those in power they work for — because it obviously isn't us.

 

[Expos of 1969]

I can’t believe how many people are opposing a movement that is only trying to stop police from disproportionately killing black people. I mean, that’s too much to ask? Seriously?

I hope you are not including the people who only oppose a corporation (Apple) that is reducing their customers paid services in a misguided attempt to make society thing the corporation cares for something more than their balance sheet and share price.

 

[Websnapx2]

Absolutely. And by making it a race thing the state keeps all the people at each others throats so they don't realize what is going on.

NO, you misunderstand — it is a race thing, just not race-on-race... it's cops on race.

 

[icanhazmac]

It's all about race.
White people don't have talks with their children about how to survive a traffic stop.
I had the talk.
I have given my children the talk.
Richard Pryor had a great but sad skit about a traffic stop. Google Richard Pryor traffic stop joke.
It was real then. It's real now.

Incorrect, I was taught from a young age to respect the police.

When I get pulled over it's because I did something wrong so its "yes sir, no sir" etc. I might be mad about getting a ticket but I'm the one who screwed up, not the cop.

Chris Rock also has a great video about dealing with the police if memory serves the lessons are:

Obey the law (shocking I know)
Use common sense
Stop Immediately
Turn that sh*t off! (blasting f*ck the police while getting pulled over by the police is ignant!
Be polite
Shut the f*ck up
If your woman is mad, leave her at home

watch

 

[techwhiz]

I can’t believe how many people are opposing a movement that is only trying to stop police from disproportionately killing black people. I mean, that’s too much to ask? Seriously?

When it doesn't affect you.
When you don't see it.
When nobody you know has the experience.
You can place your head in the sand and pretend that it's overblown.

People ignore the fact that we are less than one generation removed from Apartheid in America.
I was born before the Civil Rights Movement.
I saw dogs being turned on protestors in Berkeley.
Major cities around the country had ordinances of where black people could by and rent.

But people want to ignore, that in America, we had Apartheid and Institutionalized Racism for 100+ years.
From the close of the Civil war until 1967 laws were on the books to regulate, subjugate and oppress Black people in the US. The laws were passed but the attitudes didn't change. You can look now and see how mistreatment of Black Americans doesn't matter to people.