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Not wanting a service I pay for to be disrupted does not equal me opposing a movement. Not even close. I have stated that what the cop did was wrong and am all for the movement, but doing this to Apple Music is not the place and it is just frustrating to paying customers.

Peaceful protests are all fine. Movements are all fine. But I have problems with disrupting a service I pay for that I use to relax and help my mental issues to take my mind off things.

As I have said, is this really the ONLY WAY things can change? Boy without Apple Music doing this our country would NEVER change. No. There are better ways to protest and deal with this issue.

So you’re willing to support this movement to get police to stop disproportionately killing black people, but not if it temporarily inconveniences your music listening enjoyment. It’s not a good look, my dude.
 
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Incorrect, I was taught from a young age to respect the police.

When I get pulled over it's because I did something wrong so its "yes sir, no sir" etc. I might be mad about getting a ticket but I'm the one who screwed up, not the cop.

Chris Rock also has a great video about dealing with the police if memory serves the lessons are:

Obey the law (shocking I know)
Use common sense
Stop Immediately
Turn that sh*t off! (blasting f*ck the police while getting pulled over by the police is ignant!
Be polite
Shut the f*ck up
If your woman is mad, leave her at home

watch

And I still got pulled over and put in the back of the police car for doing nothing.
New car, no tags.
Pulled over. Showed him bill of sale.
Showed him valid driver's license, insurance, work ID, and other forms of ID.
Claimed I must have stolen it.
It took three cops to harass me.
It took one in charge to show up and have them let me go after sitting for an hour in the back of he police car.

I can give you at least five stories of me being pulled over for nothing more than "driving while black".
 
This is becoming a fetish.

In 2019, a total of 9 unarmed black men were killed by police. That same year a total of 19 unarmed white men were killed by police.

This narrative of the unarmed black man being hunted by police is flat out false. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or unfamiliar with the data.
 
Just had one of my customers complain about this, wanting to listen to their daily tunes - they thought that they had a virus and their Apple Music subscription has been hacked...
 
So you’re willing to support this movement to get police to stop disproportionately killing black people, but not if it temporarily inconveniences your music listening enjoyment. It’s not a good look, my dude.
Yet another misguided poster. Having Apple disrupt paid services will do nothing towards solving the current problem. Not a good theory, my dude.
 
I can’t believe how many people are opposing a movement that is only trying to stop police from disproportionately killing black people. I mean, that’s too much to ask? Seriously?

First time I've posted in this thread- what happened to George Floyd was terrible, as nearly all agree it was. And personally, I find nothing wrong with BLM.

But I see Apple's AM blackout as shameless/opportunistic virtue signaling. Apple wants to use its voice to speak out against injustice, but stays silent as the people of Hong Kong literally lose their rights to a communist government. Can't piss off the CCP and lose that profit from paying cheap wages. So to me, it rings hollow.
 
From your link. The move, though illegal in most states and by the DoJ, is legal but the application of the move was not.



He was not a threat to any of the officers, he was already restrained and was long since incapacitated meaning the move was still applied illegally by their own guidelines. Shooting a suspect is a "legal move", how that move is applied determines if it was a "good shoot" or not. If a cop kicks a suspect to prevent them from running away, it's not the same as kicking him when he's down and in cuffs, so it is the context that makes the move illegal, not just the move its self.

That's going to be for the courts to decide. I personally think the restraint method is dangerous. However, I assume you weren't aware that it is a legal restraint in Mineapolis so it was important to correct that detail.
 
This is becoming a fetish.

In 2019, 9 unarmed black men were killed by police. That same year 19 unarmed white men were killed by police.

This narrative of the unarmed black man being hunted by police is flat out false. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or unfamiliar with the data.

Black people make up 12.4% of the US population. So you’re saying black folks, who are 12.4% of the population, were 32% of the unarmed victims of police killings. Why are you ok with that?
 
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So you’re willing to support this movement to get police to stop disproportionately killing black people, but not if it temporarily inconveniences your music listening enjoyment. It’s not a good look, my dude.

Police are not disproportionately killing black people, at least not compared to white people.

All of the “not a good looks” in the world won’t change that.

For every 10,000 black people arrested for violent crime, 3 are killed.

For every 10,000 white people arrested for violent crime, 4 are killed.
 
This is becoming a fetish.

In 2019, a total of 9 unarmed black men were killed by police. That same year a total of 19 unarmed white men were killed by police.

This narrative of the unarmed black man being hunted by police is flat out false. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or unfamiliar with the data.

That you know about.
 
First time I've posted in this thread- what happened to George Floyd was terrible, as nearly all agree it was. And personally, I find nothing wrong with BLM.

But I see Apple's AM blackout as shameless/opportunistic virtue signaling. Apple wants to use its voice to speak out against injustice, but stays silent as the people of Hong Kong literally lose their rights to a communist government. Can't piss off the CCP and lose that profit from paying cheap wages. So to me, it rings hollow.

That’s just whataboutism. It’s not very brave or helpful.
 
I really find it insulting and inappropriate to block features for paying customers. Regardless of what is going on in the world, people listen to music to relax. Being bombarded with this issue 24/7 is not good for several people's mental health that is already suffering from covid's social distancing.

While I can appreciate the stress isolating and social distancing the people of the U.S. are calling out. If you are trying to relax during this I would argue you need to rethink your actions. This is a call for us to be strong. It is stretching us beyond our usual capacity. You can think of this like a moment of silence, consider what you stand for and look into how to take action. It IS hard. These are hard times and we all have to step up and be strong. Apple is a company of people that collectively believe this way and are asking you to recognize and step up to an issue that is well over three centuries old and take the time to consider it. And ideally, protect and support the people of the U.S.
If you truly can't handle it, then have compassion for those who need to get this message out and realize that this opinion is small in comparison to those who are fighting for their lives. They will have compassion for you when you need to shout that you can't breathe.
 
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According to these statistics 12% of the population accounts for:

53% of Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter
28% of Rape
54% of Robbery
33% Aggravated Assault
etc.

Perhaps a little personal accountability from the 12% to not be so disproportionate in terms of crimes committed would help their disproportionate interractions with law enforcement. We can all be better, maybe start at home.

Once again, citing statistics in a vacuum.
So let's talk about the 100+ years for where education, elopement, housing and other basic services were either unequal or denied. SO you want to make direct comparisons, but never address the disparity in how people are/were treated.
Okay
 
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According to these statistics 12% of the population accounts for:

53% of Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter
28% of Rape
54% of Robbery
33% Aggravated Assault
etc.

Perhaps a little personal accountability from the 12% to not be so disproportionate in terms of crimes committed would help their disproportionate interractions with law enforcement. We can all be better, maybe start at home.

That’s whataboutism. We were discussing police killings of unarmed people. I see what you’re doing though, you’re saying that they deserve it.

An eye for an eye makes the world blind.
 
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Murder, in this case, has not been established. Willful neglect, or allowing someone to die while rendering no aid seems a no brainer but please, stop saying murder as a way to dramatize your viewpoint.
Are you not aware that Derek Chauvin was arrested on charges of third-degree murder and manslaughter? Please explain to the rest of us how it is dramatic to simply use the term the prosecution is using. And since you’re familiar with legal terminology, we don’t need to explain to you that establishing a charge happens at a grand jury hearing, and establishing guilt happens at trial, not before.
 
It won't typically be deadly if they don''t have the talk is the assertion.

Seriously? Look there are definitely issues in the world but to make the assersion that a typical black interraction with law enforcement will turn deadly is just dumb.
 
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The part about "White people" and traffic stops is completely false. Every White person I have known have been given the talk about how to act when stopped by police. It is stupid not to educate young people for any race. A person in authority with a gun telling you to do something is potentially a life changing event and it should be treated as such.

It's not the same talk. it is not simply that you respect authority — it's the training to be prepared that you will be disrespected, scrutinized more thoroughly than your lesser melanin friends, and that you will need to jump through more hoops to prove you weren't doing anything wrong — all while being careful not to appear upset or aggravated in case the officer sees it as hostility. If you haven't had the talk, you just don't know. I say this respectfully, this isn't a pissing contest on who has to be more alert. We have dash-cam, body-cam and cellphone footage that shows just how different these interactions are.

In addition, if this talk is being given to minority youths, it does not appear to be given very well. The videos of traffic stops I've seen seem to me to show disrespect, privilege, and hatred, which is going be a problem for any race when confronting authority.
They don't show context. I have also seen many videos of that same behaviour from white people with nowhere near the amount of force applied as in the videos you are referring to.

I grew up part time in a rural area and not only did we have a problem with cops (because he was a drunk and it was easy to get on his bad side) but we had to be very careful of the conservation department. They have the authority to enter your property and into your house without a warrant and inspect anything they want for any reason they want and arrest you. Bet you did not know that. Our local cop picked on anyone he decided, on any given day, he disliked. So I was trained in how to handle authority from a young age.
That's horrible, systematic and should be eraticated from society, this is your fight too then. Just because I have made it farther alive than some of those I grew up with doesn't mean I should just accept it when — know first hand how bad it is — I should be one of the first to stand up and demand it stops. So should you.

Anyway you should not feel so privileged, bad cops are bad cops everywhere. Today there are more bad cops than racist cops.
That line is blurred (bad v racist) and you have no way to quantify that as if one is a probability, so is the other

A lot of people don't get the message that no matter how much you feel your rights are being trampled on, you don't resist authority. Period, no excuse. It is up to your lawyer to resist, it is up to public opinion to resist, etc.
He didn't resist. He was beaten in the car with handcuffs on (there is video evidence), then dragged out of the car.
 
I can’t believe how many people are opposing a movement that is only trying to stop police from disproportionately killing black people. I mean, that’s too much to ask? Seriously?
No, they are not disporportionately killing black people. Actuallly, the number is quite proportional to the crime rate of each entnical group. It is statistic, there are numbers. Ofc you dont belive and dont care, bacause you decides to belive what you have heard in a first place without any facts and wont change your mind. United States had a black president for 8 years and you try to convenice us that the whole country is in its roots and by definition racist? Seriously?
 
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