Apple Music Renames Hip-Hop Playlist to 'Rap Life'

[flat five]

Hip hop isn’t rap though. That makes no sense and is actually pretty racist.

lol

dude

please explain how this is racist

.. i get it that in your brain it’s somehow racist and makes sense to you.. but please, enlighten the rest of the class with the inner workings of your brain
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Whoever thought up this change is clearly ignorant about music and groups “hip hop” in with “rap” as if hip hop is just another way to say black rap music. They’re not the same genre, not even close.

i think you need a culture and history lesson

 

[NightFox]

Hip hop isn’t rap though. That makes no sense and is actually pretty racist.

That’s it. I’m officially coming out and declaring I no longer understand what ‘racist’ even means anymore.

 

[Sethal]

I think they would have been better served to rename the Apple Music service as a whole to “Rap Life”.

 

[R3k]

Not Thug Life ?

Missed opportunity.

*oh, and this isn’t racist either. research it.

 

[Mactendo]

Rap sells, so it makes sense for Apple to focus on that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Porn also sells...

 

[R3k]

That’s apples to oranges though. Those renames kept the genres the same and didn’t assume they were interchangeable.

Rock still focuses on rock. The metal change still contains the word metal etc.

Whoever thought up this change is clearly ignorant about music and groups “hip hop” in with “rap” as if hip hop is just another way to say black rap music. They’re not the same genre, not even close.

All hip hop is rap but not all rap is hip hop.

Hip Hop is a sub genre. It was never used to specify rap music made by black artists. The terms were in use before Eminem.

Your trolling has reached new heights, you post history reads like cancer.

 

[tito2020]

how hip and cool.

Mean while Spotify keeps adding subs

 

[69Mustang]

Hip hop isn’t rap though. That makes no sense and is actually pretty racist.

Sweet Jeebus. We are all dumber having read that.
This is the very type of claim of racism that devalues real issues of race. Using hip-hop and rap interchangeably has nothing to do with racism. It may be an indication of a lack of genre awareness, but it ain't racism.

 

[_Refurbished_]

Any color & any color. One of the best-selling rap artists of the last few decades was white, that would be Eminem.

The point stands, hip hop and rap are two separate genres, as evidenced by Billboard having different hit charts for both genres with different artists topping both charts.

Renaming “hip hop” to “rap life” is racist whether anybody likes it or not. They’re not the same.

Just because something is incorrectly named doesn’t make it “racist”. Incorrect, debatable. Racist? No.
What if the team of people that decided to do this were of color? Is it racist then?

 

[az431]

Oh lord. Here come the comments about how Apple features too much rap as if it’s hard to find other music on there.

And how the people that worked on this project would have spent their time better working on hardware.
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Hip hop isn’t rap though. That makes no sense and is actually pretty racist.

Every dictionary and authoritative musical reference on Earth disagrees with you. And no, it's not racist, though I'm assuming you didn't make up your own definition for that as well.

 

[az431]

Renaming “hip hop” to “rap life” is racist whether anybody likes it or not. They’re not the same.

One could make an extremely weak argument that using the term "rap life" in conjunction with the new cover art stereotypes black people, but even that is a stretch, and it most certainly is not racist.

Racism is the belief that one race is superior over another race, and you'd have to explain how renaming a playlist "Rap Life" implies anything about relative standing among races. There is nothing that could be construed discriminatory, prejudicial, or disparaging other than your own subjective belief, which makes you a racist, not Apple.

 

[thefourthpope]

Hip hop isn’t rap though. That makes no sense and is actually pretty racist.

It’s odd to think of racism as a scale.
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Any color & any color. One of the best-selling rap artists of the last few decades was white, that would be Eminem.

The point stands, hip hop and rap are two separate genres, as evidenced by Billboard having different hit charts for both genres with different artists topping both charts.

Renaming “hip hop” to “rap life” is racist whether anybody likes it or not. They’re not the same.

This is a bad take.

You could say renaming “hip hop” to “rap life” is inaccurate and I bet you’d find a lot of agreement. But it’s certainly not racist.

Claiming this as racism is the sort of thing that makes people like my dad reflexively deny genuine allegations when they appear.

 

[Westside guy]

So they’re trying to be clumsily edgy and play off “Thug Life” but stay within Apple’s “family friendly” guidelines.

But why not “Hip-Hop Life”? Even an old guy like me knows that rap and hip-hop are distinct, even if they sometimes overlap.

 

[nitramluap]

Deep Cuts: “Just angry men yelling over some beats”

 

[Glockworkorange]

Any color & any color. One of the best-selling rap artists of the last few decades was white, that would be Eminem.

The point stands, hip hop and rap are two separate genres, as evidenced by Billboard having different hit charts for both genres with different artists topping both charts.

Renaming “hip hop” to “rap life” is racist whether anybody likes it or not. They’re not the same.

I’d call it ignorant as opposed to racist.

 

[jonnyb098]

That’s it. I’m officially coming out and declaring I no longer understand what ‘racist’ even means anymore.

It's 2019. And anyone can be offended by anything at any time for any reason. Facts only matter as long as you don't hurt someones widdle feewings.

 

[Westside guy]

Hip hop isn’t rap though. That makes no sense and is actually pretty racist.

There’s plenty of real racism in the world... no need to try seeing it where it doesn’t exist.

Ignorant, yes. Racist? Not even close.

 

[H3LL5P4WN]

I may not like rap, but how in the blue hell is this racist?

 

[AxiomaticRubric]

hipHop !== rap

I’m really not sure why they are confusing the genres. They are very different.

 

[x-evil-x]

Question: What color do you have to be to perform/record rap music or listen to it?

Thanks.

I only listen to Asian rap music

 

[sinsin07]

Don't see any post defining what Hip-Hop is or what Rap is.
Need common ground before arguments can be made.

Here's one articles take on it:
Hip-Hop = Life Style
Rap 1 of 4 elements of Hip-Hop.
The Difference Between Rap & Hip-Hop

 

[iapplelove]

Hip hop isn’t rap though. That makes no sense and is actually pretty racist.

I don’t really care either way, but I always thought hip hop was just another form of music under the rap umbrella.

So I searched to find an actual definition, and most they I have found say it actually is rap.

 

[Bawstun]

lol

dude

please explain how this is racist

.. i get it that in your brain it’s somehow racist and makes sense to you.. but please, enlighten the rest of the class with the inner workings of your brain
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i think you need a culture and history lesson

The genres are different and whatever white dude at Apple thought of this change is at the very least, ignorant.

Sooooo much pushback on my comments, why? BILLBOARD, the leading authority in music, has separate charts and chart history for Hip Hop and for Rap.

I understand to ignorant whites, it’s “all the same” but it doesn’t change the facts that it. is. not. the. same. All music by black artists is not the same just because you may not like it or listen to it. Get over my comments because they’re 100% true.
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I agree that they are not the same... but that makes the renaming inaccurate, not racist. How is it racist to conflate hip hop and rap?

Who do you think conflated them? White dudes at Apple who don’t listen to either genre and think they’re interchangeable. Ignorant and SLIGHTLY racist, IMO. Even a tiny bit of research and educating themselves would show that the two genres are not the same just because they’re both primarily by black artists.

 

[sinsin07]

And I think you need to shut up. The genres are different and whatever white dude at Apple thought of this change is at the very least, ignorant.

Sooooo much pushback on my comments, why? BILLBOARD, the leading authority in music, has separate charts and chart history for Hip Hop and for Rap.

I understand to ignorant whites, it’s “all the same” but it doesn’t change the facts that it. is. not. the. same. All music by black artists is not the same just because you may not like it or listen to it. Get over my comments because they’re 100% true.
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Who do you think conflated them? White dudes at Apple who don’t listen to either genre and think they’re interchangeable. Ignorant and SLIGHTLY racist, IMO. Even a tiny bit of research and educating themselves would show that the two genres are not the same just because they’re both primarily by black artists.

Ain't "white dudes (people)" runnin Billboard?
It might make more sense if you give your take on the difference between Hip-hop and Rap.

 

[flat five]

And I think you need to shut up. The genres are different and whatever white dude at Apple thought of this change is at the very least, ignorant.

Sooooo much pushback on my comments, why? BILLBOARD, the leading authority in music, has separate charts and chart history for Hip Hop and for Rap.

I understand to ignorant whites, it’s “all the same” but it doesn’t change the facts that it. is. not. the. same. All music by black artists is not the same just because you may not like it or listen to it. Get over my comments because they’re 100% true.

in your opinion... whose opinion do you think is more valuable on this topic.. BAW-STAN? or KRS-ONE?