I’m so embarrassed for you lol dam my man why do you do this to yourself
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Apple Music Renames Hip-Hop Playlist to 'Rap Life'
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My comments weren’t meant to start a flame war but I’ve never made a comment in 10+ years on this forum that ignited a response like they did today. Over 40 notifications and counting.
All I said was that it was a slightly racist and completely ignorant thing to do, and it’s true. They’re not the same, Billboard and every other authority in music keeps them separated, and I ~GUARANTEE~ you that this idea was thought up by some white dude who didn’t even think twice about renaming a HH genre to Rap, because, “all black music is the same.”
That IS what they are insinuating with the change. Just get over it, lol. It isn’t a big deal but come on let’s call a spade a spade.
All I said was that it was a slightly racist and completely ignorant thing to do, and it’s true. They’re not the same, Billboard and every other authority in music keeps them separated, and I ~GUARANTEE~ you that this idea was thought up by some white dude who didn’t even think twice about renaming a HH genre to Rap, because, “all black music is the same.”
That IS what they are insinuating with the change. Just get over it, lol. It isn’t a big deal but come on let’s call a spade a spade.
1: Turn of your notifications if they bother you.
2: You threw out the racism card willy-nilly with no supporting data.
3: You keep saying white dude thought it up, but white dudes classified what Hip-Hop/Rap is on Billboard, which you claim is the authority. Can't have it one way and not the other
4: You failed to clarify the difference between Hip-Hop and Rap, in your terms. The rest of the world has a recongized definition.
To start on a level playing field.
rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
noun: racism
- prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance; More
anti-Semitism;
historicalapartheid- the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
"theories of racism"
- the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
Now how does that fit into your claim that Hip-hop being renamed to Rap Life is racist.
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Right???
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Quite easily. Prejudice opens your definition example, so let’s start there:
prej·u·dice
/ˈprejədəs/
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noun
- 1.
preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
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Whoever renamed the genres has a preconceived notion of black music that is not based in reason or actual experience, and assumes hip hop and rap are interchangeable music genres because both are comprised primarily of African Americans.
Therefore, that prejudice makes it a racist assumption.
De La Soul is classified as a Hip Hop act.
Oh just kidding, they’re black and write rhymes, it must be rap! I mean, it’s all the same, right? Totally interchangeable!
I always thought these were different genres. I suppose “rap” is a bit more focused on beat whereas hip-hop tended to be lighter. Sort of rock vs metal. I could be wrong. Have not heard any recent rap or hip-hop that was compelling (sorry, mumbled autotuned rhymes to the same triplet high hat loop doesn’t excite me) so I could just be out of touch (no need to get worked up; this is only my opinion). Anyways, not sure change clarifies things.
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Not to step too deep into this pile of crap, but you cherry-picked one word, prejudice, from the definition of racism and used that as proof. There is plenty of prejudice in the world, but that doesn't make it racist. What does make it racist is the last part of the definition -- "...based on the belief that one's own race is superior". I really cannot see how race superiority plays into this to fit the definition of racism. Please explain.
I get what you're saying now, but I think you're wrong, or at the very least, making some very unfounded assumptions.
I think an analogy might help. Let's say I see a work of Chinese art and call it Japanese art. Is it ignorant? Is that racist? Is it both? I think it depends.
If I called it Japanese because I just didn't know enough about the respective cultures/art forms, that would be ignorant, but it would not be racist. If I did know but deliberately chose to call it Japanese to make the point that I think they're interchangeable, that would be racist but not ignorant. And if I didn't know but also didn't care because I believed that "all asian cultures are the same and not worth distinguishing," that would be both ignorant and racist. Can we agree on that analogy?
So as applied here, I think you are assuming the third case: that the people who did the renaming both don't know the difference and have made the value judgment that it's not important because "all black music is the same" (and also that they are white, which is also unfounded). I simply don't know how you can possibly assume the latter part of the statement. There's absolutely no evidence that's what happened here.
Following the discussion from an outside perspective. Maybe, also after what you’re stating, it’s just a non-issue to be honest?
It’s as racist as calling a cherry a strawberry. It may be stupid, but racist is far fetched.
^ LOL!
Truth be told, the metal I still listen to does that for me.
If it wasn’t for a handful of extreme metal bands, I’d be a wreck.I am long out of the rap and hip hop loop, so IDC.
Wake me up when Apple promotes Funk life.
Funk is fun.
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I’ll accept your premise, temporarily, in order to ask this :
Did the “A List : Hip Hop “ play Hip Hop or Rap music?
But Ebro Darden is not white. He is mixed race of black heritage so why do you keep insinuating otherwise. Your post comes off as highly prejudice and racist, ‘must be some white man who thought that up’, quite ironic since that is the exact thing you are blindly complaining about. So of course you are going to start a flame war. But now you are trying to play it off like why are people getting so insensed by it. You seem to have no understanding of the English language and the meaning of words and concepts, and no social awareness.
The worse thing that this name change did was arguably become lazy by contextualising two music groups into one. Albeit they are both descendant from the same thing, lyrical prose over a beat. But racism is not part of this. You must educate yourself more bro, because throwing ill informed views out like that devalue the true issues of racism. In all of your replies you still did not present one cohesive argument that supported your claim. You just come off ignorant. It’s embarrassing. And I’m sure you’re actually an intelligent man or woman.
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Yeah pretty much ha. It’s just that hip hop is pretty much the biggest selling form of music today. Therefore in a way it is quite important. An analogy being like if you were going to rename the iPhone but obviously not as big as that. Anything that has a value is going to cause debate, especially when attached to one of the world’s biggest corporations.
“Racist”...the word...is suffering from over-abuse. I’m African. I’m human. Let’s all grow a pair and stop abusing and misusing words.
I don’t know the answer to this because Apple Music has the worst user interface and AI algorithms of all major streaming services, and I’ve never once wanted to go back since my free trial ended. Spotify user here since 2011 & Premium user for many years.
To me, the main reason this is dumb is that "The A-List" was excellent branding across all the genres. They should have just renamed it to "The A-List: Rap" and called it a day if they really felt the need to do something. Are they going to put other artists apart from J Cole up there (probably). Who selects what artist deserves to be there? He does right now, but who's in charge of that?
I was totally unprepared for this thread. I had no idea I would need popcorn. Modern America - always entertaining.