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took months for me to really learn it / get used to it.
what it clearly doesn't need is:
such a marketing effort tied to Beats 1
Connect.
what it clearly does need is:
1 way to see purchased popularity of tracks (like iTunes provides)
2 outright purchase of Shazam and integrate it into apple Music and iTunes
3 even more human curated playlists (in actuality apple has not lived up to its marketing blurb on this point)
4 smarter software for it not to obliterate special versions of purchased tracks with their "Best Hits" versions when iCloud Library is enabled
5 lyrics capability
6 deciding not to try to be all to everyone. deciding to position apple music as a premier service worth 10 USD per month for a persons life time of 60 or 70 years.
 
The play/pause button on the mini "now playing" is tiny. Why is it so small?

I mean, I know that I always just press the now playing bar itself so it brings up the track and I pause from there.

Yes, there are other ways to pause a song. But, most require multiple presses to the screen. I usually have my earbuds in so I just press the button on that, but sometimes my hands are full.

If you attempt to press the pause button on the mini now playing bar, you can very easily press something else. Even pressing the bar itself to get to the now playing screen, the bar is so small it is very easy to press something else, especially when holding an iPhone 6s Plus with one hand.

I was wondering why would they make it so small? You might as well not have it one there at all.

This was one reason the music app is not very intuitive when compared to the versions prior to iOS 9.
 
I absolutely hate what Apple Music has done to the music app.

Apple basically destroyed the iPod part of the iPhone. I actually had to download a third party app to be able to control my music to any functional degree.

Apple please reinstate in the old music application and make a separate Apple Music app.

1,000,000 times this.
 
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It just gets better! So they haven't even had this service out a year and now we hear rumours of a COMPLETE OVERHAUL! In other words the service has tanked like nothing and Apple are going to try and save it!

That'll help those shares. Whilst your at it though please change it so when I use my music app on my iOS devices to listen to MY MUSIC your crappy music service isn't shoved down my throat!! I'd like to play my own music thanks, not be forced into yours, in fact I would argue it's so bad that the European competition commission should investigate it!

Sorry one of my rants with Apples devices there.
For being a company so involved in music, they sure utterly screwed their music app up with this Apple Music service BS.
 
Hurrah, so aesthetics will likely again overrule easy to use interfaces!


What if the potential was 130 million users? Then it is somewhat of a major fail.

Is it?

If you started a business in the US, with a potential market of what, around 300m people, and within a year you had 30m of those people giving you $10 a month, would you consider your business a failure?

I've read some stuff about the proportion of iOS users signed up to AM being pretty small, but people have iOS devices for all manner of reasons, and use them for all manner of things.

Listening to music isn't necessarily going to be something that a majority of iOS users want to use their devices for.
 
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Wow. Judging by the comments Apple Music is a complete failure. I actually love the service. For sure there's always some bugs to work out, but it's nice to have my library and Apple Music integrated. "For You" is nice; "New" is helpful; "Radio" is OK, I use it occasionally. And "My Music" is usually where I live, which includes everything I own and everything I've saved.

Suggestion: rip out "Connect" and make it an app, since it's less 'music' and more 'social.' Links would then bounce over to the Music app.
 
I think this separation is not what makes Apple Music so unintuitive. For me, the complexity lies in three things: the abundance of drill-down menus, the bloated ’New’ section (where Apple put everything that did not fit anywhere else) and in iTunes the mixed use of right-click menu and three-dots menu.

On iOS, you can drill down into menus ad infinitum, because there are just no end points. You can go from Song > Artist > Songs > Artist > Albums > Artist > ... and so forth. You can lose track of your exact location really quickly. It is even worse when you throw a search into the mix, because the search results will just be put on top of that hierarchy. In iTunes, there are no horizontal navigation views with clear back buttons, but the entire views change whenever you click on something. You can only go back with this browser-like back button that may or may not take you back where you came from. It frequently threw me back to the beginning, not the last step. Sometimes when you want to see more songs from a particular artist, it throws you from My Music to a search page on New, where the back button will not work at all.

The ’New’ section is not really all about ’new’ stuff, it is basically everything that is not ‘For You’. If you scroll through that section, it does not make all that much sense. It is also a huge list to scroll through, with lots of sub-sections that you can check out. I almost never got to the bottom of that list. They should have used a segmented control at the top, like they use in the iTunes Store app. They could rename ‘New’ into ‘Discover’ and offer sections for ’New’, ’Top’ and ‘Activities’.

In iTunes, you can often choose between the standard right-click menu and the three-dots menu, but there are lots of places where you can only use the latter. In the ‘New’ section you cannot use the right-click menu at all. In those places where you can choose, the menus are not even consistent. Menu items are not in the same location and it seems as though you are always looking for the right button to click. It felt tedious after a while to constantly adjust to this silly three-dots menu when everything else on OS X uses a right-click menu.

Apple Music is just not the intuitiveness and focus that I have come to expect of Apple software. It feels like an attempt to put as much functionality into a small app. I’ve seen several WWDC developer sessions on UI design and to me Apple Music seems like an example of how to fail at basic design conventions.
Now this is how you level a complaint. Detailed and specific. No hyperbole or outrageous comments. Kudos
 
Sad, that they couldn't get it right the first time, its not like this is the first time they did music. I'm looking forward though a new design that will make it a bit easier to use.
It is the first time they did music streaming......so I'll cut them a little slack. But it is very telling after only a year they need to revamp everything. SOOOOO many simple choices that could've made it better out the gate like being able to horizontally scroll in the NEW section like in the iTunes store.
 
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Not just easier. More easier.

"More. Easier."
"Super. Computer."
 
Bottom line Itunes Match was left for years not working correctly, it still does'nt so why should i expect annything different from Apple Music
 
spotify's 20 million is not the goal.
its pandora's 80 million radio-like service subscribers integrated into cars, apple tvs, handheld devices everywhere.
 
Wow. Judging by the comments Apple Music is a complete failure. I actually love the service. For sure there's always some bugs to work out, but it's nice to have my library and Apple Music integrated. "For You" is nice; "New" is helpful; "Radio" is OK, I use it occasionally. And "My Music" is usually where I live, which includes everything I own and everything I've saved.

Suggestion: rip out "Connect" and make it an app, since it's less 'music' and more 'social.' Links would then bounce over to the Music app.

I also like the interconnectedness between my library and Apple Music, but I've otherwise soured on much of the service. For me, the complexity of the interface means:

-- that I will occasionally find something I like, only to lose it later and not remember how I got there;
-- that I am never sure whether I am using it optimally or are aware of all features I might like;
-- that certain of the menus (e.g., the three dots) seem like "junk drawers" where Apple threw everything it hadn't figured out to incorporate into the main interface; and
-- that I spend more time clicking through menus than I'd like, i.e., that the experience isn't ultimately satisfying or fun.

Apart from the complexity, I would like better controls for my own library (older versions of iTunes were easier and more enjoyable in several ways) and less focus on features that are peripheral to listening, i.e., Connect.

Finally, I miss the music discoverability features of the old iTunes Music Store, back when playing a track would give you much more artist information, similar picks, collections that included music from that artist, etc. Back in the day, iTunes used to be my go-to source for learning about new artists that were similar to others I liked. The so-called "cleaner" interface the iTunes Store moved to several years ago took that away (for me at least). I would hope Apple would look at some of its past successes when thinking about both iTunes and Apple Music.
 
I've been using this since it came out about 9 months ago and still get mixed up. They need to bring clarity to the way the app is organized. Right now I feel like it's just kind of a jumble. It just shouldn't be so difficult for it to smartly build a few radio stations based off of a few artists, songs or albums and then store them in a place where I can easily switch between them. And there should be an area where I can just store tons of music and organize it all just like I could in the past when I paid for it. Or maybe some of that stuff is possible or just not good enough for my standards. Hard to tell. I've been pretty busy since last summer and every time I try to sit down at my personal Mac at home and figure things out I just get frustrated because it doesn't do what I expect. I'm not even old. Also I hate how everything is polluted with a bunch of music I bought as a teen that I don't much care for any more. Honestly, I use it most on my iMac while working so maybe the iPhone app is better but I don't remember it being very good. So I just make a station based off whatever song I feel like and that's about as deep as I go with Apple Music. Kinda sad.

Am I unusual when it comes to this?
 
The real issue with Apple Music concerns turning on iCloud Music. When you do this and choose either 'Merge or Replace library with iCloud' terribly screws up artwork on your local device, for your local songs. Your artwork will be replaced by whatever iTunes decides is appropriate, and is often times 100% incorrect for artist/album.

I'm a paying Apple Music customer. If they can fix this, I'll live with clunky UI. The above issue should be considered a "defect". Without being able to enable iCloud Music, you're unable to save music for offline listening.
 
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As long as they don't remove Beats 1, they can improve the service however they want.

Also, not sure why the hate to Connect, I found out that Enrique Iglesias was launching his new single there (and even heard snippets) about a month ago.
 
Why not listen to your "own" music on Apple Music? I don't understand the resistance some people have to streaming.

If your answer is that it costs money, so does buying your "own" music. In fact, with most streaming services, you can listen to almost everything ever published for less than the price of one album per month. It's a ridiculously good deal for consumers. If your concern is that you want to actually "own" your music, there's no real difference. It's all just digits. If it ever disappears from the streaming service, then you can buy it. But stuff seldom disappears. If your concern is data usage, just switch to any of the carriers (almost all of them now?) that offer free streaming data plans.

Wow!! Mind = blown!

Stop living in your happy bubble. Here in India, 1 GB 4G data costs $5 and that's that. No free streaming data. Net neutrality case was won in courts and all data has to be treated equally. I am sure most countries do not have unlimited cellular data plans.

Apple doesn't care how you use their Apple Music subscription service. Some of my music (1950's Bollywood music LPs) is not even available in Apple music catalog.
 
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That's fine if you use the catalog and have gradually internalized your own cognitive model of what "the catalog" actually is.

To the rest of us, it's just incomprehensible visual noise on the UI. Like demons taunting us from a hidden underworld. Popping up, obstructing and sowing confusion, before disappearing back from whence they came.

I think the UI in iTunes could do with work more than in iOS, as there seems to be too much space with not much going on. The radio tab could do with some work. Perhaps instead of having a tab for previous shows, and a tab for the playlist, they could be combined. So you click on a previous show, and on the show page you can either click to listen, or view or play the playlist. And the graphics for the smart playlist radio stations are terrible - they look like some awful garish things and totally un Apple like.

But in iOS it seems mostly fine - I tap on My Music, and there's all my music which I can sort by albums, artist or song.
Certainly not incomprehensible visual noise.
 
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