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Apple Must Compensate Brazilian Customer Over $1,000 for Selling iPhone Without a Charger, Judge Rules
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And the same argument applies to the ridiculous idea of regulating Apple because they made a good product.
You can't prove that there is. But you choose to believe it, because someone said so.
The first iterations of the iPhone were also subsidized by carriers. Those subsidies have gone away.
Well I agree on the ‘pretend’ part. Although not including the charger does somewhat help the environment, that clearly wasn’t Apple’s main reason to do it. They did it mainly to save money and maximize profits. Protecting the environment is just a side effect that makes up for a good excuse to keep apple fans happy, but certainly not apple’s main purpose or intention. It’s extremely naive to believe it is.
Seems simple. Not manufacturing hundreds of millions of bricks a year will have a positive impact on the environment. Obviously I can’t measure each every impact, but not believing it out of cynicism to me is folly.
Can’t prove or disprove the driver was “profits” or “environment”. I guess it depends on one’s cynicism.
That’s exactly why they are being regulated. They sell oodles if these a year, and governments don’t like that. While certainly across the world there are nuances of doing business apple has basically been okay in a legal sense. These regulations are just to show who is boss.
I clearly said the ‘they’ are the overwhelming majority of the people who buy Apple’s products. A few may buy Apple products because they value the quality and so on, but most only do so to show off the brand. Just Like they would buy Armani jeans pr a Louis Vuitton purse to show them off. Apple is becoming more and more of a brand for snobs and showoffs. And those people are like the fans of a celebrity: they worship blindly and don’t see the flaws. And seeing your staunch defense of Apple, you seem to be part of the ‘they’.
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So you’re just parroting something someone else posted without actually reading the source article at Daily Mail.
The figure was a guess based on speculation and assumption, yet you claim it as fact.
Who set the "lousy example" of what a modern smartphone should be? Apple did. They were the first to do that.
I’d like to see some statistics on this from some legitimate sources. Else state it’s your opinion.
So your perspective is that apple can fool all of the people all of the time? Interesting.
If you’re so cynical to believe the driver was profits…
They are not. That $20 got consumed by inflation and increased manufacturing costs. Read their annual reports for 2020 and 2021. There was no magic $20 Apple got to add to their iPhone margins because they left out the charger. Apple actually cut into their margins to be able to keep the phone at the same price point as previous years.
Frankly, nobody outside the boardroom or upper levels of Applea finance department will likely ever know the true answer.
Way I figure, Apple through their market research (focus groups etc) noticed that a substantial enough number of people never used the included 5W charger or EarPods that they looked into ceasing to include them.
My guess is they decided it’d be a way to hold the price levels despite increased costs, and the environmental benefit was a good bonus they could market. I further speculate that Apple knew there’d be a segment of people who’d complain loudly, but that relatively few of them would have enough strength of conviction to actually switch platforms.
Net effect, Apple is able to offset some cost increases in other aspects, a few vocal folks whine up a storm, and they,keep on selling tons of phones to people who could care less whether the box had another 5W charger to sit u used in a drawer for years.
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It's inflation. And for some people, that $1400 stimulus check in the mail means new iPhone.
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If it were about the environment, they'd still allow you to add the charger for free or at-cost with the purchase of a new iPhone. Like asking for a straw in a California restaurant.
If it were about the environment they could have included a digital $20 Apple gift card in the iphone purchase, so people could use that to buy a charger if they need it.
Eh, but it doesn't cost them $20 to make the charger, and the gift card could be used for things besides it. Providing it optionally for free or at-cost would be the most equivalent to the old scenario, except with less waste.
It doesn’t cost them $20 to make the charger, but that’s how much they sell it to the public for.
Correct.
Cost to manufacture an item rarely has a direct relationship to retail price for non-commodity goods. Pricing decisions are far more about consumer willingness to pay than anything else.
There’s no requirement to use Apple branded 5W USB power sources, so I’m not sure why people act like Apple is the sole source for such things.
Not much use to him if he can’t charge it I suppose lol. It is a bit bizarre selling such expensive products under the assumption everybody will just use an old charger or pay yet more for a third party product just to use it. It’s all about profit under the guise of green thinking but still.
Well, yes it is, because you don't need to ship the charger and the iPhone in the same box. They just need to be delivered in the same bag. just as they do now when you buy any accessory that comes in their own package
Or apple should make sure they do not break the law before doing things. Just as iPhones sold in France included headphones by law and apple wasn't sued as they knew this before shipping it in the same slim package