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Apple Not Able to Open Retail Stores in India Without Selling 30% Locally Sourced Goods
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They're really expensive, and that doesn't justify the initiation of force that is the Indian government keeping Apple from building stores there. If they Want to build stores there, its because they see value in it and think that their customers will see value in it as well. The Indian government is robbing its people of value, and their rights.
They have no right to initiate force to do that. Apple products are extremely expensive there because of rights violating, protectionist games like these. Purely evil.
They are Violating Apple's rights in initiating force against them to stop them from building these stores. They have no right to do it. Little fascist policies like these keep the prices of these devices high in this country, violate the rights of everyone involved, and rob the Indian people of value.
And who gives a damn what the Indian government wants? They have no RIGHT to INITIATE force against anyone, for any reason, ever. That includes Apple, for the purpose of achieving x economic goal, at any point in time. To advocate for an initiation of force by right is a gross misunderstanding of the fundamental basis on which rights rest.
Speaking of missing the point, why don't you go ahead and explain to me how the fact that Apple products are already sole there at hugely inflated prices, then permits the Indian government to violate the rights of Apple, and the Indian people by Initiating force against them to prevent Apple from providing the economic value of an Apple Store to the Indian people. Explain to me by what right or whim they negate property rights, and intervene in a voluntary exchange of economic value.
By what right do they negate property rights, and intervene in a voluntary exchange of economic value?
Trade wars hurt everyone. uncompromising freedom is the only proper solution.
And with any luck, we'll get the evil B**** or the full blown fascist instead of that stealth fascist parading around as a champion of free markets and Capitalism.
What about them? Does the fact that Apple products are available from other sources at hugely inflated prices permit the Indian government the right to violate the rights of Apple and its people by negating property rights, and individual rights more broadly? Just because they want to accomplish some arbitrary economic metric?
Like hell it is. That's pure fascism, and that's some scary s*** to be reading. I really hope you don't live in America. India does not make the rules, reality does. The only purpose of any legitimate government is the uncompromising protection of individual rights, and that does not mean violating the rights of Apple, and the Indian people just because some backwards arm of their backwards government want to accomplish some arbitrary economic goal.
Protectionism hurst everyone involved. This government is Violating Apple's rights by initiating force against them to prevent them from providing this economic value to India's people, and it is violating the rights of its people by refusing them the right to voluntarily engage in economic trade to mutual benefit with other individuals. Everybody loses. Where does it say that the indian people must produce the products they buy? Whats wrong with creating other types of value and then trading for that value instead? And how the hell does anyone think that they're smart enough to get the arbitrary number of this arbitrary metric right? Because they work for the government? Ridiculous, and inexcusable violation of rights.
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And you know, not a single response came out in defense of the rights of Apple, or the Indian people. Crazy. What the hell is happening to the world...
I understand that India wants a piece of the cake. It's how the world turns. Just like the EU it thinking about rules that say that content providers like Netflix should offer 20% 'local' content or help pay for it. However, this Indian 30% local products rule makes it quite hard for global companies. If other countries demand the same, companies will have to set up factories all over the world. India may declare iPhones to be no cutting edge technology, it's not like they can be made in any old factory, by a random group of Indian folk. It will not help bringing prices down in India.
Some seem to assume that India "playing hardball" somehow benefits Indians and the Indian economy. The facts don't seem to support this view though. India has a very backward economy, and is a good decade behind China economically. Corruption and red-tape are generally considered the worst in the world and responsible for India's incredibly slow move out of crushing poverty. "Playing hardball" is probably simply more corruption and red tape in this case. Didn't they arrest and try a pigeon for spying last year?
Apple haven't been cutting edge since 2012. Cook and Ive need to go.
India just called Apple "BASIC" hahaha
Good for them but also, isn't setting up shop and billions of dollars in revenue going to generate significant tax revenue for the country? I am not sure if driving out competition is best in the long term, but hey, not my country.
Only for investment in cutting edge technology. Doesn't that mean that because they're not building cutting edge products in India, they can't open retail stores?
India's economy may be ten years behind China but it's the projected rate of growth that has companies interested in India, especially in view of China's slow down. Historically countries which have had manufacturing power have been the strongest of economies. As such the Indian government are within their right to push manufacturing.
The last comment about the pigeon. Bad taste of sarcasm. Since you are asking I am assuming you didn't gather the full sense of the what happened. Read up on it - terrorism is not a joke.
Hmmm... Maybe, just maybe.. India are damn savvy. They knew they'd get hardly ANY tax out of Apple so are fighting hard to get at least something / anything out of this "deal".
Fact check!!!!! Please be accurate when you are on the forum. Such nonsense are your replies. What is your motivation for this?
First, you are making up lies about Apple products being extremely expensive - they are not extremely expensive in comparison to USA pricing:
Apple iPhone 6s (Space Grey, 16GB)
through Vodaphone India is
47699 Indian Rupee = $709.03 USD
(US price is from $649 USD)
through Vodaphone India is
47699 Indian Rupee = $709.03 USD
(US price is from $649 USD)
Last time I checked, the Government of India, a democracy, has the say in who sets up shop in the land of India. It seems India doesn't want another "McDonalds" style corporation yet unless the "McDonalds" style corporation meets their requirements. That's fair.
You'll get your wish of an Apple Store in India soon, be patient, but it will be on India's terms, not yours. In the mean time you can buy your Apple products in India from third-party distributors: http://www.apple.com/in/iphone/buy/
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You see, Apple. These type of games that you are playing is annoying, isn't it? You get to sell stuff made in India. Actually, you should starting selling Hindu products.
Apple's plan to open three Apple Store locations in India may fall through following a ruling from the Indian finance ministry that says Apple must sell locally sourced goods if it wants to open stores in the country, reports Reuters.
In India, 30 percent of goods sold by foreign companies must be manufactured or produced in the country, a requirement Apple does not meet as its products are largely made in China. India last year exempted retailers selling state-of-the-art goods from the rule, prompting Apple to file a new application with the Indian government.
Apple was expected to receive an exemption from the rule, earning a recommendation from country's Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion, but the ministry of finance has decided Apple's products do not fall into the cutting-edge technology category. A source told Reuters Apple did not provide enough material to justify the exemption.Without the ability to open its own retail stores in the country, Apple will need to continue selling iOS and Mac devices in India through third-party distributors. Apple is eager to expand its business in India as it is a largely untapped market. Last quarter, Apple saw its revenue from India grow 56 percent, surpassing $1 billion.
The ministry of finance's ruling comes just after Tim Cook spent several days in India, where he met with Prime Minister Narendra Modi and other local business leaders, actors, politicians, and developers.
Apple has also announced the launch of a Maps development center in Hyderabad and an iOS app and design accelerator in Bangalore.
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I get the feeling that these Hindu leaders are using Tim and his recent opened stores as theirs and not apple's.
Later down the road they would probably ask Tim to sell 50 percent of their products.
Another word, Tim. You just opened these stores for Hindu people.
i don't think the Apple marketing BS works as well in India as other places. In Australia, our politicians would go down on any foreign exec and believe whatever they say.
Probably neither. They know full well what they're doing to the product line. They don't care. It keeps selling, doesn't it? No need to rock the boat until they arent.
Yup, it's definitely a move against China. Basically, India is sending a message, if you can make it in China, you should be able to make it in India... (unless it's so cutting edge that you can't make it in India).
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USA needs a law like this. We've lost enough jobs to countries where workers make $2 an hour and even Engineers make 5k - 20k a year.
Someone hasn't been paying attention to Apple's elaborate Irish tax avoidance scheme
You see, it's not just the US to whom Apple does not pay very much tax. It's most every country they've sold devices in. That's why more and more are passing laws trying to get their rightful share, and even back taxes.
This. If Apple doesn't grease the right palms, maybe they'll end up having to build a factory in India.
