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I expect a redesign as rumors have said since April. We shall see.

Since April? Try since about March of 2007. Everyone was all worked up on these forums about the impending MBP redesign of June '07, which turned out to be nothing but a speed bump. Then again the frenzy returned last Fall...and again, no redesign. MBP inventories dwindled, the current model reached an elderly age of some 8 months or so, MWSF even came and went...finally, a new model comes out, and again...no redesign.

If a major redesign comes in October, I'll be shocked.
 
I'd like to see:

A MBP that is designed much like the mockups have been - tapered with a black keyboard. Do away with the cheese grater holes as they just collect dirt. And lastly, I want a black trim around the screen like the new iPod nano.

As for price, I just want to see the hi-rez 17" become standard instead of extra and price it accordingly.

For the MB I think if its going aluminum it shouldn't be silver only as they'll be too indistinguishable fro the MBP. They should multi-color it like the ipods.

Here's to getting what we want in October.
 
I dont relly care about macbooks to be redisigned, for me the major breakthrough would be macbook 13" with dedicated gpu and ssd (well that i can do myself anyhow), regular HDMI. Hope to see them sooooon!
 
I think my point is not that Apple cant charge a premium for their product, but currently they are charging about double what other manufacturers charge for similar configured computers. The component costs have got to be similar for the big manufacturers, right.

I expect Dell and HP get better deals then Apple thanks to their volumes, but it won't be amazingly so.

Apple can "get away" with charging a premium because enough of the market believes that they are a "premium" brand compared to the offerings in the Wintel market. And while Apple's huge year-to-year percentage gains are driven in some part by the sheer volume of Wintel machines sold, Apple is still pushing six figures worth of more machines per month then they did the same month a year ago.

And with Apple making significant profit on each of those machines (twice what #1 Dell makes and seven times what #2 HP does) that means tens of millions more profit per month, every month. And if sales continue to grow as expected, that monthly revenue boost will soon be measured in the hundreds of millions.

Thanks to the performance and exclusivity of OS X, Apple is free of the "tyranny of Windows" which, because it runs on anything and everything, means that the only way Wintel OEMs can differentiate is on price and competition forces them all to sell at the lowest price. ASUS could not leverage the "nettop" to make any money because, thanks to Windows, every other Wintel OEM could make one, too, and they all did, which meant only price mattered and as such, price dropped to a few bucks above cost for all of them.

If Apple releases a tablet, it will prosper more because it will be able to stay unique then because it is unique. Windows is the reason tablets failed as a market for Wintel OEMs, but it was not because Windows Tablet Edition was a bad product. It was because Windows Tablet Edition ran on so many tablets, the Wintel OEMs could not differentiate themselves to a point where they could charge a premium to support the product being improved. Any improvement an OEM created would last only until the other OEMs could introduce it, too. And since so many Wintel OEMs use the same production companies in China, it makes it that much easier to copy and then bring to market a competitor with the exact same specs and build cost.

This is why I fear cloners like Psystar winning their cases and opening OS X to cheap clones. Not because I'll save $1000 on my next Mac, but because I will not be able to spend $1000 more to get a computer and OS and driver model and applications that work well together in a stable, powerful and elegant way. I will be faced with the "tyranny of Windows" again where cost alone drives the decision-making process and performance, stability, safety and innovation are all pushed aside to ensure that the cheapest options are implemented. :(
 
Since April?
Yup. :)

Try since about March of 2007. Everyone was all worked up on these forums about the impending MBP redesign of June '07, which turned out to be nothing but a speed bump.
Were they rumors or personal speculation? Because I don't remember any MacBook Pro redesign rumors in March 2007. The only redesign rumors I read were about the iMac (which was redesigned 5 months later).

Then again the frenzy returned last Fall...and again, no redesign.
Again, what rumors? There were MacBook (not Pro) redesign rumors though, which turned out to be the MacBook Air.

MBP inventories dwindled, the current model reached an elderly age of some 8 months or so, MWSF even came and went...finally, a new model comes out, and again...no redesign.
There weren't any redesign rumors for the February MacBook Pro...

If a major redesign comes in October, I'll be shocked.
On the contrary, it'll be expected for me. And let's just say I'm also expecting an aluminum MacBook and glass trackpads.
 
Yup. :)

Were they rumors or personal speculation? Because I don't remember any MacBook Pro redesign rumors in March 2007. The only redesign rumors I read were about the iMac (which was redesigned 5 months later).

Again, what rumors? There were MacBook (not Pro) redesign rumors though, which turned out to be the MacBook Air.

There weren't any redesign rumors for the February MacBook Pro...

On the contrary, it'll be expected for me. And let's just say I'm also expecting an aluminum MacBook and glass trackpads.

Hmm. Maybe they were more along the lines of personal speculation. I just remember the very long wait while the forums buzzed on and on about an impending redesign, complete with the usual mock-up photos.

I hope you're right and that the MBP does get a major redesign next month. My finances are such that I could get one next month, but not in January, so earlier would be great for me. I just don't expect it.
 
I'm skeptical but totally want it to be true.

The MB coming in colors would be really neat, too. Maybe even a black option for the MBP, who knows.
 
I think you all will easily recall in MWSF 2000 there were NO new computers introduced, just the OS X Aqua interface look and feel, and the .mac Service. I was there at that keynote and for the convention, it was a big disappointment. We were all expecting new PowerBooks or something.
 
I'm not giving up hope on this week *crosses fingers*. Wasn't the original rumour around the 14th of September or something close to that date?
 
I'm not giving up hope on this week *crosses fingers*. Wasn't the original rumour around the 14th of September or something close to that date?

Only way that can happen on 14th Sept. - just some more optionsl on hdd's, proccessors or anything else. But no major changes or redisigns. Major changes will mostl likely happen on some kinda "let's Mac" event or MacWorld, and the invintations shpuld be sent a week before.....i guess so
 
I'm not giving up hope on this week *crosses fingers*. Wasn't the original rumour around the 14th of September or something close to that date?

Invitations would have been sent out :(


EDIT:

Only way that can happen on 14th Sept. - just some more optionsl on hdd's, proccessors or anything else. But no major changes or redisigns. Major changes will mostl likely happen on some kinda "let's Mac" event or MacWorld, and the invintations shpuld be sent a week before.....i guess so
Damn! Beat me to it :D
 
I think you all will easily recall in MWSF 2000 there were NO new computers introduced, just the OS X Aqua interface look and feel, and the .mac Service. I was there at that keynote and for the convention, it was a big disappointment. We were all expecting new PowerBooks or something.
And there was a certain recent Macworld where there was no Mac-related stuff and almost everything was related to a certain new phone.

Only way that can happen on 14th Sept. - just some more optionsl on hdd's, proccessors or anything else. But no major changes or redisigns. Major changes will mostl likely happen on some kinda "let's Mac" event or MacWorld, and the invintations shpuld be sent a week before.....i guess so
The original MacBook, which was a redesign, was released without an event. But two redesigns (including new stuff like glass trackpads) and one upgrade may be a bit much for a silent update.
 
Look at your calendar. MWSF is ~ 4 months away (serioiusly), which would correlate to approximately 120 days from now, or one-third of a year.

That's alot of time. Thinking back that long takes us to Mother's Day or when the earthquakes happened in China.

That's how long we would have to wait for MWSF '09. Apple isn't going to let a set of stale products inhabit the channels for that long, especially with holiday season coming up. There's got to be more than just new iPods in store for the kiddos at Christmas. They want their new MAC!
 
Hmm. Maybe they were more along the lines of personal speculation. I just remember the very long wait while the forums buzzed on and on about an impending redesign, complete with the usual mock-up photos.

I hope you're right and that the MBP does get a major redesign next month. My finances are such that I could get one next month, but not in January, so earlier would be great for me. I just don't expect it.

I Actually agree with Macmatician on every point, and I too am expecting a redesign. You have to keep in mind that sometimes there are desperate times here on MacRumors, were people will follow every personal speculation and take them for facts, because they wish for something that bad. (not that I blame them, aren't we all dreamers when it comes to next, "perfect" Mac?) So they then will all talkabout it as if it were a fact, and in the end nobody knows, so you will have to take it for a fact. (well, by fact I mean a very reliable rumor).
BTW, have I ever said that I think that the Macs NEED more USP ports? 2 for a 15 inch, 3 for a 17 Inch MBP really are not enough. (just a minor thing I hope to see, and from some speculation about the new specs, I think rather realistic ones as well.
 
Look at your calendar. MWSF is ~ 4 months away (serioiusly), which would correlate to approximately 120 days from now, or one-third of a year.

That's alot of time. Thinking back that long takes us to Mother's Day or when the earthquakes happened in China.

That's how long we would have to wait for MWSF '09. Apple isn't going to let a set of stale products inhabit the channels for that long, especially with holiday season coming up. There's got to be more than just new iPods in store for the kiddos at Christmas. They want their new MAC!

I agree, I definatly want to agree and BTW, I dont care about what the kiddos want, nobody stands between me and a new MAC. :mad: :D;):D;)
 
Look at your calendar. MWSF is ~ 4 months away (serioiusly), which would correlate to approximately 120 days from now, or one-third of a year.

That's alot of time. Thinking back that long takes us to Mother's Day or when the earthquakes happened in China.

That's how long we would have to wait for MWSF '09. Apple isn't going to let a set of stale products inhabit the channels for that long, especially with holiday season coming up. There's got to be more than just new iPods in store for the kiddos at Christmas. They want their new MAC!

I'm not saying they won't come out with new notebooks ahead of MWSF, just not a major redesign. As you've pointed out, there are some 120 days left, and that is indeed a lot of time...enough time, in fact, to put out a stopgap refresh followed by a true redesign to be revealed at MWSF.

I Actually agree with Macmatician on every point, and I too am expecting a redesign. You have to keep in mind that sometimes there are desperate times here on MacRumors, were people will follow every personal speculation and take them for facts, because they wish for something that bad. (not that I blame them, aren't we all dreamers when it comes to next, "perfect" Mac?) So they then will all talkabout it as if it were a fact, and in the end nobody knows, so you will have to take it for a fact. (well, by fact I mean a very reliable rumor).

OK, so this whole thread is pegged to a rumor from some site called DaringFireball, whatever that is. Perhaps someone can enlighten me regarding the reliability of that site or maybe point out some other "reliable" source for a rumor regarding new notebooks in October.
 
I think that the MacBook and MacBook's will be updated soon, but not as soon as October 14. If Apple were really smart, they'd release them in time for christmas.
 
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