I was running an iPhone 6 changing out Apple Smart Battery cases to get through the work day-1 iPhone 6 fully charged and 2x smart cases-and I had shutdowns, stalls, and horrible performance. If Apple was upfront about the issue I would have gotten the battery replaced prior to the battery swelling and separating the screen from the frame mid December. The issue I take with your position is even with Apple’s first party external battery case I was getting throttled without a clear actual dainostic reason why. I’m fine with having no internal replaceable battery-but if I have external batteries why I’m I getting throttled and experiencing shutdowns, with first and third party apps? Why not some alert or pop up? Seriously Apples silence on this is damning.
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Apple Now Faces 26+ Lawsuits for 'Purposefully' or 'Secretly' Slowing Down Older iPhones
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I’ve only ever been arguing against the concept that people “don’t want thin phones”. People will buy a phone just because it’s thinner and complain about battery life. Ask me how I know.
Would that be any easier?
I have no experience in this type of case (or any other for that matter), but outside of plaintiffs stating that’s why they bought a new iPhone, what other proof would they have that’s why they upgraded? Is that enough in this type of case?
Even if they could show this, would they have to prove that it was the software that caused the issues and not something else? (Assuming there are multiple issues that could impede performance)
No, Apple came up with a fix for an inferior battery and slipped it in the update so that people wouldn't return phones within warranty for shutting down early. What do you think about that?
And they, in their apology statement, mentioned that will be or have been doing it for the 7's. A phone a year old. Somethings wrong there.
I’m actually more pi$$ed they admit to throttling the phones with the Qualcomm modems so they don’t show up the phones with the slower Intel modems. At Apple, throttling is a way of life.
And, in the grand scheme of things, that loss will be insignificant. Note that the AAPL stock price has not shown much more variation than usual over the time these lawsuits have been filed. The smart money seems to be saying that if Apple loses market share, it will due to high prices and a lesser amount of desirable new features, nothing to do with their miscues in market communication regarding battery technology. For all we know, some of this negative press might be influenced by short sellers trying to cover their losses, and not (currently/yet?) being very successful.
They can make their money whilst not being cheap about it. It's not unreasonable to expect from a company that touts on their quality of their products to, you know, DELIVER ON THAT.
Stay blind, though.
So what if I have an old phone with a brand new battery? Is it still slowed down, or is this basically some smarts that allow old phones with stuffed up batteries to still survive?
Next news... Tesla intentionally slows down cars when their batteries get this way so that they don’t suddenly shutdown.
The is like a car company turning off 2 cylinders instead of telling the owner that they need a $29 part.
Read up on "dark silicon". Everybody using these new large SOCs with fast processors/GPUs/etc. and multiple billions of transistors is throttling.
Everyone suggests this is merely a matter of communication...but what I'm wondering about is how did the choice to take it in this direction affect the development of iOS? Seems like Apple implemented this feature in order to not have to be concerned about older devices. Now, let me be straight that I realize that Apple has to develop for their newer hardware...but I'm wondering if iOS may have developed in a way that was more balanced towards improving or maintaining the experience on more of their devices if they hadn't been able to throttle down older devices...I'm suggesting that people in this thread who say "would you rather have your phone shut off when you open Facebook" are imagining the current state of the hardware vs software as a neutral point, when the software is developed by people making choices about solutions to various problems...
People act like it is OK for public traded for profit company tndo anything in the name of generating make money.
There have been at least a half dozen front page news stories on this issue. It’s not unreasonable to ask if some can be combined just updated vs a brand new story. I asked about this in the feedback forum. This The comments in every one of these threads are essentially the same so every new thread is just rehashing the same stuff.
Because they don't need to or they don't want to? Unlike some fruity company slows down the phone? He/she can use the phone at normal speed, just Ned charge more often. I take this anyday
You know . I never saw you complain about the countless news stories about the note 7 battery woes......
This is major news impacting many Apple fans, look, if you don't like it, no one is forcing yourself and others to click .......and complain . I frankly don't see the point of whinging that the story is still being covered.
Remember, don't like it, don't click on it
Difficult in Germany. If you sue for gazillions like they do in the USA, you risk losing significant money for court cost and two sets of lawyers.
What percentage of VW vehicle buyers got a full 100% refund? Let us know if that percentage isn't microscopic.
Except for those that explode after the first charge.
Thirsty lawyers and idiotic users.
When it comes to user experience it's a double edged sword. You either tell your user everything and overburden them with options (essentially turning into android) or risk lawsuits by just doing what is in best interest for your end users. However... what this isn't, is planned obsolescence... There are far easier ways to do that if they really wanted to which could not be pinned on them in court.
I think people with their phones rebooting would be more likely to buy a new phone than people with phones that continue working albeit a little slower occasionally. Apple actually extended the life of the phones and not made them obsolete. Only thing they did wrong was not be transparent enough about it.
I guess a disclaimer like "Your phones battery is degraded, your phone may run slower because of this to allow continued operation." would be all it took to avoid this. It's just hilarious how people think they caught Apple doing something against them not understanding the complexity of this situation.
This is why we can't have nice things.
When it comes to user experience it's a double edged sword. You either tell your user everything and overburden them with options (essentially turning into android) or risk lawsuits by just doing what is in best interest for your end users. However... what this isn't, is planned obsolescence... There are far easier ways to do that if they really wanted to which could not be pinned on them in court.
I think people with their phones rebooting would be more likely to buy a new phone than people with phones that continue working albeit a little slower occasionally. Apple actually extended the life of the phones and not made them obsolete. Only thing they did wrong was not be transparent enough about it.
I guess a disclaimer like "Your phones battery is degraded, your phone may run slower because of this to allow continued operation." would be all it took to avoid this. It's just hilarious how people think they caught Apple doing something against them not understanding the complexity of this situation.
This is why we can't have nice things.
In many ways this is deserved. If they said this type of things happens, we build it into the programming but there is a diagnostic feature attached to the battery system pref, and you may need a new battery instead of making people think they need a new handset... well that would have been 'easier' to swallow. Even though people would gripe like crazy still.