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Apple Now Powered by 100 Percent Renewable Energy Worldwide
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Applestores in conventional shopping malls here have gas heating
Are they pumping back gas under the soil ?
Then this is another half-truth aka almost-truth aka PR spin
Recycling the massive piles of electronics waste probably doesn’t count either.
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This is brilliant, and I hope they keep going and go way over the 100% (i.e. end up producing much more than the energy only they use).
If you believe this then your'll believe anything. This is like one of those carbon offset things, but for energy as i'm pretty certain that the local Apple store retail unit amongst other retail units isn't using it's own solar panels to power its unit. So 100% definitely isn't factually accurate.
The airlines have been carbon offsetting for years but the underlying business still robs natural resources and creates tons of pollution a day - Just like Apple.
Apple rally should start focussing back on making great products again, rather than this nonsense, before it gets found out.
The airlines have been carbon offsetting for years but the underlying business still robs natural resources and creates tons of pollution a day - Just like Apple.
Apple rally should start focussing back on making great products again, rather than this nonsense, before it gets found out.
The notion of economics goes far beyond of cheap or expensive. Renewable energy means more jobs, new technologies, new directions, new business opportunities, less centralisation, more local investment opportunities. All in all, it creates a economically sustainable robust self-balancing network. Trivially speaking, if you are after the quick buck, you can just chop the forest down and sell the wood. Or you can set up a sustainable business — you will earn less per unit of time, but you and your community just might end up in a stronger position economically. Of course, its not something Trump and friends will get — their idea of doing business is based around exploitation: exploitation of the system, exploitation of resources, exploitation of business partners in the end.
P.S. A practical example: the house I live in is part of the new ultra-green generation. It has internal ventilation with air filtration, low-temperature floor heating, heat storages where warmth accumulated during summer is kept for heating the buildings during the winter, all those goodies. The net effect is that you need very little extra energy to heat it. Does it make it cheaper? Hell no. All this hi-tech costs a lot of money and anything you save on heating costs will be offset by the increased costs of acquisition and maintenance. However, the question is where this money goes to. In the traditional heating system, most of the costs are to cover the fossil fuels needed to produce the heat — which means this money goes to Russia and friends who are large producers of oil and gas. In our building most of these costs go to local small companies who create and maintain the precision tech needed to run the building. I think the choice here is obvious.
Well those guys are the boogie men aren't they: Look at:
http://geab.eu/en/top-10-countries-with-the-worlds-biggest-oil-reserves/
Venezuela are 1st, Canada 3rd with Russia a mere 8th. What you said about going green not being cheaper is true though.
Threads like this remind me of why I don’t like MacRumors. There’s no good news that people here can’t find something negative to say about.
Because of the irony in being a clean 'giving back' company and the fact that they legally stash there cash to avoid helping there own poorer local citizens.
Since I live in Europe, thats the situation I was talking about
And my main point is that with fossil energy — for most countries — most of the money is going outside, to the full supplier. With green energy, the money is going to the local businesses. And even importantly, green energy creates jobs and promotes technological advancement, which gives economy a long term boost.
Carbon neutrality was the biggest con going for years to appease environmentally conscious governments and people.
If you stuff your face with cakes for a lifetime but give salad to your friends to offset the cake, you still end up fat and with diabetes.
The answer is, reduce the cake or cut it out all together, not always possible but tackles the problem without sugar coating another.
If that's what you meant then, Yes you're right; money is leaving your country of origin instead of going to local businesses but to pin it on Russia when they don't even worry the top five is a bit of scaremongering but technically you're rightSince I live in Europe, thats the situation I was talking about
Very true, carbon offsetting has been abused (as many things are). At the same time, it was never meant to be a long-term solution. Just a bandaid to slow down the emissions by punishing/rewarding respective behaviours. I have no idea whether it has been effective or not. And you are certainly right that the way forward is stricter emission regulations and technology that reduces emission locally, not some questionable "emission voucher" trading.
If Apple is generating (using sun, wind, hydro) more power than its businesses (stores included) consume then Apple as a whole is running on 100% renewable electricity. An electron going into the grid from a wind Farm is identical to an electron going into the grid from a coal fired power station. The grid uses it as demand dictates. You the customer can choose to get your Electricity from a supplier that produces 100% renewable electricity such as Ecotricity in the UK. They generate power. You use it. It isn't rocket science.
It does not matter if a store has its own PV system or not when you look at the big picture.
I have a small PV System on my roof down here in Hampshire. It has cut my consumption of grid electricity in half since it was installed and that includes charging my car. It just requires a change in your mindset to realise what is possible rather than what isn't.
That’s not a very good analogy. The status quo is both people ending up fat with diabetes. Adding renewables into the network lets your friend stay slim and healthy. Your anaology breaks down further because you and your friend can share your fat and both be reasonably healthy. Better than the status quo.
Well this might come as a shock, but the sun shines for free. It’s a big investment which is what is holding off some companies, but you’ll get your money back after a few years. Furthermore, costs of renewable energy is going down and fossil fuel will become more expensive in a few years.
Apple Stores can be powered from the grid when buying energy from renewable energy facilities nearby. That’s how I understand it’s done.
This and your previous reply ... what does oil reserves have to do with oil extraction, supply and usage? Especially in this scenario. Russia truly is the largest oil supplier of Europe, because they are pumping it out as fast as they can. Venezuela, not a big oil supplier in Europe, if any. Canada sends almost all of its exports to USA, not relevant to Europe. And, if the scene was the USA, it gets most of its oil now from North America, as in self-sufficient.
Even if oil is as cheap as water and just as easily available, the exercise here is to not burn oil when energy is available all around us for capture and use without ruining the air or heating the oceans.
Beyond the local jobs created by non-carbon "fuel" tech., the energy by default is locally generated and consumed, not shipped or piped from across the earth or continent. Each nation becomes a self-sufficient power house and that is efficient, aka, low to no carbon footprint.
In this political climate, I'd be hesitant rushing in to defend Russia, even indirectly
. Just stating this to lighten the climate, pun intended, of the discourse!
If your talking about stored energy, i.e batteries, then I feel a bit ripped off if Apple can power a unit 8 - 12 hours overnight and yet the average iPhone can barely stream Netflix for eight hours straight.
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Read the Forbes article and then get back to me: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexep...es-100-renewable-energy-usage/2/#369a9a71c7c1
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Apple is enormous energy sapping company, they consume infinitely more than your battery powered car or house hold appliances - it's great you are reducing your energy footprint, we all need to, but if you think Apple is 'really' doing anything to save the planet then you should read this to open your eyes : https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexep...es-100-renewable-energy-usage/2/#369a9a71c7c1
As it is already with coal, even in China and India. And, both nations are paying dearly with health crisis from pollution; have been for decades, more transparent to the world now. Even, "clean coal" USA is getting out of the business because it is too expensive now, but that is because of the cheap oil and natural gas they prefer to burn instead of investing in solar and wind energy.
I am not a fan of hydroelectric power as defined by the industrial world - too much land and habitat destruction; exact opposite of why the Netherlands were building dams. The abuse is too much in India and China today, as in this century.
Greenpeace did some digging on your behalf
Must have paid them off too because last year (2017) they weren't so good?
Are you suggesting that using renewable energy has a bigger impact on the environment than burning fossil fuels? Please elaborate.
Ok then, but to save the planet we need to turn off any electrons made by polluting sources.
That would shut down Apple.
I will never understand how humans create technically viable, ethically correct offsets to give a feel good factor over something that in reality is a lie and at worst killing the planet.
The article you’re referring to is outdated, how about this one?
https://fastcompany.com/40554151/how-apple-got-to-100-renewable-energy-the-right-way
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