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Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
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I'll wait and see what my campus store is selling it for; they have most of the Apple software radically cheaper than the Apple Online Education Store does. If it ends up being $113 as well, no loss, but $69 would be better.
What do you expect
Most of the universities are so liberally slanted that the students and faculty believe they have a right to discounts. For some reason students expect discounts instead of appreciating the fact that the company is offering them something. It just amazes me how many people feel they are entitled to discounts because they fall into some category. Like you said, when most of them hit 30 they will be posting here about someone else wanting a discount on OS XI. Thank you liberal colleges. BTW, all you complaining about a smaller student discount - YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY LEOPARD. NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO UPGRADE.
Most of the universities are so liberally slanted that the students and faculty believe they have a right to discounts. For some reason students expect discounts instead of appreciating the fact that the company is offering them something. It just amazes me how many people feel they are entitled to discounts because they fall into some category. Like you said, when most of them hit 30 they will be posting here about someone else wanting a discount on OS XI. Thank you liberal colleges. BTW, all you complaining about a smaller student discount - YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY LEOPARD. NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO UPGRADE.
I would probably go with the first one more than anything. I can't tell you the number of working people that I've been involved with who either say, well I still have my student ID (after 2 or 3 years) or use their children to buy educational software. A few of them at least admitted it was wrong (they did it anyway) but some wouldn't even see that, "I used to be a student."
I'm also a regular on the forums of a few software makers and it is amazing the numbers of people who will come to a forum hosted by a specific software maker and brazenly ask, "How can I pretend I'm a student." (paraphrasing there)
Anyways I'm really excited for Leopard!
Quit whining
Go get Windows then and quit whining. When I was in college, I paid $300 for Windows 3.1 and liked it. Actually, I didn't like it, but that is what it cost.
Go get Windows then and quit whining. When I was in college, I paid $300 for Windows 3.1 and liked it. Actually, I didn't like it, but that is what it cost.
For those who have no job and thus complain about the price of OS X Leopard, look at these prices. It's for MS vista that even experts of windows, such as PC Magazine editor-in-chief Jim Louderback, said is "The litany of what doesn't work and what still frustrates me stretches on endlessly."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/18/1512243
Full versions
* Windoze Vista Home Basic: $199
* Windoze Vista Home Premium: $239
* Windoze Vista Business: $299
* Windoze Vista Ultimate: $399
Upgrade versions
* Windoze Vista Home Basic Upgrade: $99
* Windoze Vista Home Premium Upgrade: $159
* Windoze Vista Business Upgrade: $199
* Windoze Vista Ultimate Upgrade: $259
Note full features of Vista are not available in the Home versions. The full version costs $259 as an upgrade. (Actually many PC users know Vista is actually a downgrade from the already inefficient XP).
How's $129 for an efficient, useful OS sound now?
Just to re-iterate the corp/government discount is $107 if you know (or are) someone working for an applicable entity.
I too suspect they upped the student pricing to be more inline with the normal discounts simply because nearly everyone knows a student and they were probably receiving an excessive amount of student orders which were not actually being used by students.
I too suspect they upped the student pricing to be more inline with the normal discounts simply because nearly everyone knows a student and they were probably receiving an excessive amount of student orders which were not actually being used by students.
If you think you deserve pity and martyrdom because you can't afford the addition ~$40 for the brand new OS for your machines, get some perspective. Seriously.
brand new? its not much differ from Ubuntu 7.04 vs. 7.10, if its like redhat 3 vs. Ubuntu 7, I would pay $129 in a heart beat.
Actually I think this edu price jump will push more students to use OS illegally, either borrow the disk from their friends or download.
I feel bad that I told many of my friends that mac OS won't cost them too much and I encouraged them to buy one. Especially one friend who just bought a macbook last month, he kind of wanted to wait for leopard, and I told him it's ok, the edu price is only $69, not too bad. but now I have to eat my words.
Yep as previous posters have noticed the education discount is virtually gone. Tiger was $89 CDN for single user. Now Leopard is $116. That sucks. I'm going to buy Leopard anyways but I still don't understand the price hike. $116 compared to the regular $129 really makes it pointless to even have a discount.
I don't want to complain because I will be able to afford it. Nonetheless it is kind of annoying. But I do agree with a previous poster who said that Apple likely upped the price because people were getting it who weren't students. Just getting there student friends to get it for them. Either way I can't wait to get it. It's going to be sweet on my 2nd gen Macbook.
I don't want to complain because I will be able to afford it. Nonetheless it is kind of annoying. But I do agree with a previous poster who said that Apple likely upped the price because people were getting it who weren't students. Just getting there student friends to get it for them. Either way I can't wait to get it. It's going to be sweet on my 2nd gen Macbook.
"I think the people attacking the students should have it put in perspective.
How would you all feel if the price of leopard was $205 instead of the $130 that you where expecting. $205 is what it would cost you if you had a %50 price increase and if you believe like voodoo if can not afford the extra $75 could not afford the $130 to begin with."
Up to $299, I'd have bought it. Over that, I'd have passed or looked at it in the store very, very closely before spending the money.
At no price would I have pirated it.
That's probably a key difference.
Post-launch, the market would decide if the price was correct or too high. If too high, Apple would have lowered it and I would have bought then. If correct, Apple would have held to $299, and eventually I would see it as worthwhile and I'd have bought it. Or decided it wasn't worth $299, and passed.
At no price would I have pirated it.
That's probably a key difference.
How would you all feel if the price of leopard was $205 instead of the $130 that you where expecting. $205 is what it would cost you if you had a %50 price increase and if you believe like voodoo if can not afford the extra $75 could not afford the $130 to begin with."
Up to $299, I'd have bought it. Over that, I'd have passed or looked at it in the store very, very closely before spending the money.
At no price would I have pirated it.
That's probably a key difference.
Post-launch, the market would decide if the price was correct or too high. If too high, Apple would have lowered it and I would have bought then. If correct, Apple would have held to $299, and eventually I would see it as worthwhile and I'd have bought it. Or decided it wasn't worth $299, and passed.
At no price would I have pirated it.
That's probably a key difference.
I cant believe how many people are bitching about the $47 difference in price for the upgrade. LOL!
You spent anywhere from $1000.00 and up and cant spend the $47 difference on the upgrade?
You spent anywhere from $1000.00 and up and cant spend the $47 difference on the upgrade?
Ha, get real. If Apple had priced Leopard at $500, I would say **** off. I wouldn't have bought it, instead I would've waited until my next Mac purchase. I'm sitting on a PowerBook G4 and a PowerMac G5. I can be patient.
And so can any student. After all, you are (likely) purposefully choosing four years of being poor to hopefully be something other than poor later on. You do know patience (or so it would seem).
Unless you're there for the beer. And judging from this thread, "kids these days" don't drink beer. at. all. Whatever.
seriously, did you not find the flaw in your reasoning? do you actually ever see a mac without an OS on it?
Its "automatic upgrade version", if you want to really compare.
Then allow me to put it in more general terms. I make $64 a day during the school year ($14400 a year). I will make $64 a day for the next 4 to 5 years, conceivably. If I am extremely lucky, I can make almost that during the summer months, too. I realize that is probably more than the average undergrad makes, but I get no federal grants and have to support myself. I am expected to work sixty hours a week.
Now, if someone else who makes within a dollar or two an hour of minimum wage wants to speak up, I'll listen, otherwise - you just aren't getting it.
I would have much preferred apple become more serious about verifying student discounts than simply reducing them because of abuse.
If you are actually dying then I would get one right away. Then you'll at least be able to enjoy it for a short while before you pass on. And I would get black because black is the color of death. If you're not dying then hold out. A Macbook update is inevitable.
All you students made the assumption that the upgrade would be $69 or $79. Apple never said that was the price. You made an assumption and it was wrong. Apple should get rid of the student rates all together since its just requires us "non students" to finance you people. How about not buying the latest video game or ask mom and dad for the money.
You probably have a $2K+ computer (if you purchased it without the discount like the rest of us) and you can't cough up another $36. Since you probably did get the discount, then Steve has already given you a printer and an iPod and a discount on the computer. Stop the whinning. When you graduate, don't expect the handouts that Apple has been giving you. With an attitude like that, you're never going to make it in life.
I simply cannot wait.Oh, I agree 100%. I was just noting the irony in his outrage that people were abusing the system by getting unfair educational discounts and then in the same breath saying how he was going to pirate it.