Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

Tiger + Leopard Macs On The Same Network Will Play Fine Together

I am getting the new iMac after the 26th. We also have a G4 powerbook that does not meet the minimum requirements for Leopard. Does anyone see any compatibility issues? These will be on the same network.
No they will play fine together. :)
 
The 300 feature page - http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html - is a great read! I recommend it to all - there are some features that are very interesting and useful!

That said, I'll personally wait until the bugs are ironed out a bit - but it is very exciting... though I'm a bit annoyed that some minor features are not compatible with my Dual 2.3 G5 with 4.5 GB of RAM ... unbelievable that it wouldn't handle all things thrown at it.

that was a pretty good read. thanks
 
This is one way to limit the abuse of EDU discount, by making you purchase it on campus (and showing your ID).

This is a good idea, although I'm sure there's some reason why it's not the standard... but on the surface it makes sense to me.

And for those of you whining about price whining, try living on a graduate student stipend someday (or worse, on loans).

Oh... my head... Try being the head of a family of four with a mortgage and self-employed with the headaches of healthcare insurance and taxes and daycare, pre-school, and getting the recycling out on Monday morning... :D:D:D I mean, really y'all... if we can't whine about the whiners who need something to whine about, what are whiners worldwide to do?

As long as I'm whining, I want to add the lack of new Mac Pro info to my whining list. Poor poor me! I want my Mac Pro! :)
 
For those who have no job and thus complain about the price of OS X Leopard, look at these prices. It's for MS vista that even experts of windows, such as PC Magazine editor-in-chief Jim Louderback, said is "The litany of what doesn't work and what still frustrates me stretches on endlessly."
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/18/1512243


Full versions
* Windoze Vista Home Basic: $199
* Windoze Vista Home Premium: $239
* Windoze Vista Business: $299
* Windoze Vista Ultimate: $399

Upgrade versions
* Windoze Vista Home Basic Upgrade: $99
* Windoze Vista Home Premium Upgrade: $159
* Windoze Vista Business Upgrade: $199
* Windoze Vista Ultimate Upgrade: $259

Note full features of Vista are not available in the Home versions. The full version costs $259 as an upgrade. (Actually many PC users know Vista is actually a downgrade from the already inefficient XP).

How's $129 for an efficient, useful OS sound now?

And, I can get Vista Ultimate for $10 through my university. Not that I'd want to, but still.
 
Sweet! I can't wait to start using it reading "all" the features makes this thing sound great. Althogh I hope those aqua scroll bars go away they look veeerrrryy strange in the screenshots. I love aqua but its time to change.
 
Does anyone know yet how they're going to solve the PowerPC/Intel thing? I see that you don't have to choose before purchase.. Will we get 2 DVD's in the box? Or one universal one?

Edit: It would be pretty hard to make a bootable DVD that boots on both a PowerPC and an Intel Mac, right? But the item description only mentions 1 DVD. Strange.
 
Pre-ordered Family Pack.

Tiger DVD already up for sale on eBay.

eBay auction is already up to $41.

With any luck I'll be able to use Tiger to pay for 1/3 of Leopard. :)
 
$40 is a lot of money to someone who has little income and lots of expenses ($500+ in books a semester, spending money for food).

If you can't afford it then that's just tough sh*t, I can't afford a Audi R8, but I haven't been whining about it in any related forums.
 
Then allow me to put it in more general terms. I make $64 a day during the school year ($14400 a year). I will make $64 a day for the next 4 to 5 years, conceivably. If I am extremely lucky, I can make almost that during the summer months, too. I realize that is probably more than the average undergrad makes, but I get no federal grants and have to support myself. I am expected to work sixty hours a week.

Now, if someone else who makes within a dollar or two an hour of minimum wage wants to speak up, I'll listen, otherwise - you just aren't getting it.



I would have much preferred apple become more serious about verifying student discounts than simply reducing them because of abuse.

So, if I do the math right, you have to work about a half-day to afford the price increase for Leopard? However do you manage? :)
 
A question about the up-to date lepoard disc.
I will be buying an imac soon so will get this disc for £6 but I bought a macbook at the end of September could I 'technically' use the disc on that too?

No. You would be violating the EULA or licensing agreement.
 
Who wants cheese with their whine?:p Student price is cheap. I guess there is no pleasing some folks.

At the time XP Pro was $99 with edu pricing, while Office 2003 Pro was also $99 with edu pricing.

Leopard is $115, down from $129.

In terms of discount percentage, Apple is pretty weak. I feel that this is what some, if not many students, are miffed about.
 
I think the people attacking the students should have it put in perspective.

How would you all feel if the price of leopard was $205 instead of the $130 that you where expecting. $205 is what it would cost you if you had a %50 price increase and if you believe like voodoo if can not afford the extra $75 could not afford the $130 to begin with.



Do the math, its not a 50% increase.

$116 - $69 = $47 = roughly 40%
$116 - $79 (what you thought it might be) = $37 = roughly 32%

My point isnt how much is too much. The point is you cannot expect and demand Apple sell this at the same price point now that they did several years ago.
 
education pricing

I'm not exactly sure what everyone is complaining about, I just got Leopard for a student price of $69.00...

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What's with all the moaning? I think £89 is a small price to pay for what will be an amazing operating system. I mean Microsoft rip you off completely with their crappy Vista. Jeez there are some tight people, if you can't afford fair enough but if that's the case just stick with Tiger. I think if you like Apple and want to support them then you shouldn't really resort to torrents.
 
So, if I do the math right, you have to work about a half-day to afford the price increase for Leopard? However do you manage? :)

Or I spend what I would spend on food for about 7-10 days on it. You assume the full $64/day is disposable and that there isn't a potentially three month long rainy day to save for.


I am actually mildly surprised at the smug counter-whining. I suppose people don't realize that the truly spoiled entitlement-issue kids don't even look at price tags anyway.
 
does this mean that we shouldn't expect a major hardware update for macbook pro for the next 2-3 months or so?

I've been waiting for this before i buy my powerbook pro and I's hoping to announce a hardware update for the 26th..
 
Do the math, its not a 50% increase.

$116 - $69 = $47 = roughly 40%
$116 - $79 (what you thought it might be) = $37 = roughly 32%

My point isnt how much is too much. The point is you cannot expect and demand Apple sell this at the same price point now that they did several years ago.

? how do you do that math?

47/69=68%
37/79=47%

the way it works, is you actually think FOR them.
 
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