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Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

ph0rk said:
Then allow me to put it in more general terms. I make $64 a day during the school year ($14400 a year). I will make $64 a day for the next 4 to 5 years, conceivably. If I am extremely lucky, I can make almost that during the summer months, too. I realize that is probably more than the average undergrad makes, but I get no federal grants and have to support myself. I am expected to work sixty hours a week.

Now, if someone else who makes within a dollar or two an hour of minimum wage wants to speak up, I'll listen, otherwise - you just aren't getting it.



I would have much preferred apple become more serious about verifying student discounts than simply reducing them because of abuse.
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unfortunately i am rather ill and can no longer work. i manage on something like a similar amount to you. i fail to see the enormous impact of leopard being $40 more (with the educational discount) than everyone thought it was going to be. if people want it and make $40 makes all the difference, as has been said before, you can't really afford it in the first place. if you can afford it at the price you thought it was going to be, save up a little longer to get the extra $40. it's all completely pathetic to moan about $40 being a deal breaker.

if you all want to discuss educational pricing in general....that's fine. but it's boring to read how you all can't afford $40 when you can afford computers in the first place.
 
just going to throw my final 2 cents in on the edu pricing. apple is nice to students and people in the edu field, this is a known fact. yes m$ gives us free software, yes they give us huge discounts in the bookstore on software. but apple gives us discounts where no one else would, thats hardware. most of us feel apple "felt" are pain when it came to being in college and being poor, yes i now for some this continues after college but for most *hopefully* its only in college. now since apple is steadily raising prices on edu software to the point where its not any cheaper then we feel they are saying they dont care anymore. myself feeling like this is the beginning of the prices going up all around hardware and software for edu pricing. now i dont have the right to be mad because they dont owe me anything but it is something that i loved about them in the past and now i feel those days are over with, they felt like the good guys but now beginning to feel just like the rest where money drive them instead of loyalty. thats why i feel the way i do right now.
 
sananda said:
unfortunately i am rather ill and can no longer work. i manage on something like a similar amount to you. i fail to see the enormous impact of leopard being $40 more (with the educational discount) than everyone thought it was going to be. if people want it and make $40 makes all the difference, as has been said before, you can't really afford it in the first place. if you can afford it at the price you thought it was going to be, save up a little longer to get the extra $40. it's all completely pathetic to moan about $40 being a deal breaker.

if you all want to discuss educational pricing in general....that's fine. but it's boring to read how you all can't afford $40 when you can afford computers in the first place.
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I never said I couldn't afford it. It does most certainly cross my whine threshold, though.

Where would macrumors be without the whining to fill the gaps between rumors?
 
This has probably been asked before, but I don't feel like looking through the 15 pages, but since this will be a 64bit OS, I'd assume that iTunes and the iPod will work for 64bit...Is that correct?
 
Oh my god... I've been reading through this thread and I can't believe how much of a big deal people are making of the new education discount... Surely, if you were able to save up for a $1000+ Mac, you could save up 129 for Leopard.
 
MacSA said:
Students whining about the Educational price? Don't most of them spend more than that per week on drugs and alcohol?
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You're getting bashed on that comment... But you're right!

36$ is not an unrealistic amount of money for students to use on alcohol alone every week. I'm a student myself, in Denmark though, and use about 35$-100$ every time I go out - the same as almost all my friends. I don't know any people who uses LESS than 35$.

I can see the provocative element in the comment though - but unless it's a lot cheaper for students in the US to go out, he's right. Not that it has anything to do with the pricing of leopard though.

I guess price discrimination has benefitted Apple to some extend up until now, since more students would buy it rather than pirate it. Guess the market analysts at Apple has now changed their mind and think a low student discount is beneficial to the company - the student discount was rather extreme up until now.
 
Nemisis said:
This has probably been asked before, but I don't feel like looking through the 15 pages, but since this will be a 64bit OS, I'd assume that iTunes and the iPod will work for 64bit...Is that correct?
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If yo are referring to 64bit windows then the answer is still no at this moment in time.
 
nownot said:
truthfully i was alright with paying 70$ for a os. but im not ok with paying 100+ so me personally will be bootlegging. for everyone that thanks apple is still a god company, that there so great just think about two things. quality of service hardware and customer has went down the drain in the past years, and prices have went up. still a good company but not as good as they once were.
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Hmm, so you're saying you want a product but you you don't want to pay the asking price so you'll steal it?
<sarcasm>
I'd love a Porsche 911 but I only want to pay the same as I paid for my Honda Civic, maybe I should just nip down to the local Porsche dealer and steal one? After all, it must be justified because I want want so badly
</sarcasm>
 
nownot said:
just going to throw my final 2 cents in on the edu pricing. apple is nice to students and people in the edu field, this is a known fact. yes m$ gives us free software, yes they give us huge discounts in the bookstore on software. but apple gives us discounts where no one else would, thats hardware. most of us feel apple "felt" are pain when it came to being in college and being poor, yes i now for some this continues after college but for most *hopefully* its only in college. now since apple is steadily raising prices on edu software to the point where its not any cheaper then we feel they are saying they dont care anymore. myself feeling like this is the beginning of the prices going up all around hardware and software for edu pricing. now i dont have the right to be mad because they dont owe me anything but it is something that i loved about them in the past and now i feel those days are over with, they felt like the good guys but now beginning to feel just like the rest where money drive them instead of loyalty. thats why i feel the way i do right now.
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Apple still cares about you, but don't you also care about Apple? It can't be a one-way street, that's no way to have a relationship. Now send them some money.
 
lem144 said:
Loaded up boot camp - love my $2600 iMac. Now I have to spend MORE $$$ or boot camp wont work? WTF? Apple's site says boot camp will be disabled on Tiger when Leopard is released. The Apple store folks did not tell me Boot Camp would expire, when I clearly told them I would be installing Windows with Boot Camp. Does anything think I have recourse?
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NO! It was Beta, and Apple has said this all along. Besides, you will still be able to boot into Windows after the Beta expires.
 
Note To Moderators

question...

Can we open a new thread for all the people who wish to talk about the edu priceing...

I thought that this thread was for all of us who want to talk about LEOPARD not apples educational pricing policies.
 
Phil A. said:
Hmm, so you're saying you want a product but you you don't want to pay the asking price so you'll steal it?
<sarcasm>
I'd love a Porsche 911 but I only want to pay the same as I paid for my Honda Civic, maybe I should just nip down to the local Porsche dealer and steal one? After all, it must be justified because I want want so badly
</sarcasm>
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Copyright infringement is not theft.

Quit associating the two.
 
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omfg how ie6 winxp sp2 of you! Rage against the machine! Boycott Leopard!!!
 
I am going to buy the upgrade probably on the 27th. Is their any real point to pre-ordering...I'm not sure I see the benefit.

I have a new IMac. Would it be better to install the new update over the existing, or to do a clean install, deleting everything that's currently on my hard drive. I know that in the Windows world it's always best to reformat and install a new OS. That approach is always more work as all other apps need to be reinstalled, good backs would be important, etc....

Thanks!
 
VoodooDaddy said:
You can spin it either way to fit your argument.
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its not much of a spin, than the way how people think.

for us who expected it to be either 69 or 79, how do you think we are going to calculate this?

you just never really thinking FOR us the whole time, and I am not surprised since you are not in that position anyway.
 
Steve Jobs is reading my mind...

So I'm telling a friend about Leopard's features, including note synching.... and it suddenly occurs to me:

The problem with many systems is that freeform note taking and to-do lists aren't always supported in the same app. Also, what if I want to make a to-do list in a different app so as to tie it to other things I'm doing specific to that application? Wouldn't it be great if I could create a manageable to-do list within a different app and then whenever I update it, have it sync back to the global to-do list in say, iCal?

So not five seconds later do I keep scrolling through Leopard's features and I find that's exactly the same conclusion they came to!


P. S. Since we're all familiar with frivolous lawsuits here as of late, can I sue Steve Jobs for reading my mind months ago before I thought of it? :D
 
Interesting that Apple's Leopard pages aren't displaying correctly on FF or IE7 on a PC... (you get what they give you at work).
 
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