Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

[ibwb]

Wow, Vista is that horrible that Microsoft is practically giving it away for free. The $10 is probably for the physical disc, packaging, printed material and shipping.

He just goes to a university that's signed an extortion deal with Microsoft, where every student is required to pay for Microsoft software in their student fees. Then they think they are getting a deal when they can buy a $2 piece of shiny plastic for $10.

 

[Stuipdboy1000]

Just pre-ordered the Family Pack. Says it will be here by the 26th, which is great! But for those expecting to see the package on your doorstep when you get home, heed the warning:

Delivery Note:
Most shipments require a signature on delivery. However, we offer an easy way to sign for your package even if you can't be present. Click here for details.

Might want to fill out the signature form if you aren't going to be home...... Would hate to see teary-eyed posts from people who didn't know, and missed the delivery.

How did you do that?

 

[Quillz]

I just called in an they aren't offering a lower rate on edu price if you call in. It's the same as what the site says... Either way we shouldn't complain Windows users pay double or triple what we have to pay for our new OS.

Really, they do? Then how come as a university student I get Windows and Office for free?

 

[72930]

A total vectorized GUI. In short..

This was one feature I was really hoping for...oh well...

 

[quentinr]

Has anyone confirmed if the $100 store credit will work on leopard? I don't want to hang out in front of my Apple Store on Friday night only to find out I can't use it for the OS.

 

[FreeState]

Really, they do? Then how come as a university student I get Windows and Office for free?

Nothing in life is free... thats what they should be teaching you at your university

Check out your student fees... ever wonder what those are used for? Most likely in part to buy bulk software...

 

[shollingsw3]

Does anyone know when ADS developers will get GM release?

I wonder if Apple's Select & Premier ADC members will be able to get a free copy? After paying $500 for select or $3500 (?) for premier, I think they deserve it!

A download of the GM build of Leopard SHOULD be up on or before this Friday (Oct. 19) so if you are a part of the ADC Select, Premier, or Student subscriptions then you will get it a week ahead of everyone else. Also, the DVD will come in November's monthly mailing, approximately the first week of November.

 

[morespce54]

I'm impressed Apple!

Canadian price is also $129. Apple are recognizing the parity of the CA Dollar!

Eh, for Software, at least...

 

[notjustjay]

That's a very cool concept, it would mean that if you so wished (as my brother actually does) you could hook your Macbook up to your 46" widescreen LCD TV and it would still look as great as it does on your 14" screen. I wonder if they plan to add it later in an updated?

Careful, resolution independence isn't a magic solution. Your post makes sense if the 46" widescreen TV is a high-resolution one (1080p for example) but many LCD TV's offer much poorer resolutions than computer monitors. Resolution indepedence makes most sense for high-resolution LCD screens that pack a lot more pixels in (like the Dell laptop I once had, that crammed 1920x1080 pixels into a 15" display).

Resolution independence means that the OS dynamically scales things instead of always mapping them pixel-by-pixel. For example, how tall is the standard OS X menu bar? I don't have one handy but let's say it's 30 pixels tall. 30 pixels on a 15" LCD running 1024x768 looks a lot different from 30 pixels on a 30" LCD running 2560x1600.

A resolution independent OS would say that the menu bar should be, say, 1/4" tall, and scale the number of pixels and font sizes accordingly. Maybe it's 30 pixels on a 15" LCD, but 65 pixels on a huge 30" monitor, or maybe 22 pixels on the bigscreen TV.

 

[dpfenninger]

Photo Booth requires an iSight camera (built-in or external), USB video class (UVC) camera, or FireWire DV camcorder; and an Intel or PowerPC G5 processor. Backdrop effects require an Intel Core Duo or faster processor. Backdrop effects when using a DV camcorder require fixed focus, exposure, and white balance.

OK, my PowerBook G4 just misses two new features. I was expecting every machine with the Leopard could get the Photo Booth...and no Backdrop effect...

Anyway, hope to get it on the release day

Yeah, I'm majorly bummed about the lack of support of the backdrop effects...I would think my 2.1GHz G5 would be more than enough horsepower to handle that. What gives, Apple??!!

 

[livelikeriley]

Has anyone confirmed if the $100 store credit will work on leopard? I don't want to hang out in front of my Apple Store on Friday night only to find out I can't use it for the OS.

Just ordered my copy of Leopard on the phone with Apple (I couldn't get the discount to go through on the website). It works! I'm sure it will work in the store too.

Mark.

 

[boster]

Any guesses on when new systems will be pre-loaded based on past releases (Tiger, Panther, etc...)?

 

[nvbrit]

Careful, resolution independence isn't a magic solution. Your post makes sense if the 46" widescreen TV is a high-resolution one (1080p for example) but many LCD TV's offer much poorer resolutions than computer monitors. Resolution indepedence makes most sense for high-resolution LCD screens that pack a lot more pixels in (like the Dell laptop I once had, that crammed 1920x1080 pixels into a 15" display).

Resolution independence means that the OS dynamically scales things instead of always mapping them pixel-by-pixel. For example, how tall is the standard OS X menu bar? I don't have one handy but let's say it's 30 pixels tall. 30 pixels on a 15" LCD running 1024x768 looks a lot different from 30 pixels on a 30" LCD running 2560x1600.

A resolution independent OS would say that the menu bar should be, say, 1/4" tall, and scale the number of pixels and font sizes accordingly. Maybe it's 30 pixels on a 15" LCD, but 65 pixels on a huge 30" monitor, or maybe 22 pixels on the bigscreen TV.

In this case the 46" is a 1080p and so I see your point, in any case a vectorized GUI on a big display has to look better than a bitmaped GUI becuase your not going to have the blockiness that you get when a bitmap is enlarged... right?

 

[Confidemus]

English - Japanese translation built in???

Hi all,
in dictionary there is a built-in English-Japanese translation option. Is this an add-on and I can choose English-German, too, or is this just English-Japanese only???
Confidemus

 

[rhpenguin]

You underestimate the development costs of incorporating correct English spelling, like "colour" instead of "color"

LOL.. Well, at least us Canucks don't have to share that dev cost


... Not that I'll be buying it anyway. Actually, I probably will. Ill make my own install disks with them.

 

[akac]

Infringe the copyright of, not steal - and people have been doing that for quite some time. Attempting to call them out and make it some sort of moral issue isn't going to work, especially over the intertubes.

Infringe or steal. Its breaking the law. Breaking the law is a moral issue. So your point is?

Oh, and stealing is taking someone's property away. Copyright is property. You're stealing.

 

[nvbrit]

Infringe or steal. Its breaking the law. Breaking the law is a moral issue. So your point is?

Oh, and stealing is taking someone's property away. Copyright is property. You're stealing.

By installing a single license OS on more than one computer, are you really breaking the law or are you just breaking the company's policy; in this case Apple?

 

[ortuno2k]

Like most students here, I was also a bit disappointed that there was a price increase on Leopard, up from $69.00 from Tiger. I just called Apple and the lady on the phone said that "Leopard is a new program, with over 300 new features, so it's more expensive..."
So, anyways, I took the plunge and ordered it. Says DELIVERY on the 26th.

Let the countdown begin...

 

[Peace]

By installing a single license OS on more than one computer, are you really breaking the law or are you just breaking the company's policy; in this case Apple?

According to the DMCA it's both.

 

[themacolyte]

This is criminal of Apple to do. If their reasoning is that non-students were abusing their policy, they can only blame their policy which required no ID when ordering online...

I'm going to the Apple store on Friday with my student id. If they don't sell me a copy for $69, then I'll just borrow a copy from someone.

You win the "Stupidest Comment of the Day Award".

It's criminal of Apple to charge the price they want for their product but it's OK for you to pirate a copy? There are too many citizens of the U.S. that don't understand the basics of a capitalist economy or are too immature to take proper action when they don't like what they see in pricing or product features. Grow up.

 

[nvbrit]

You win the "Stupidest Comment of the Day Award".

It's criminal of Apple to charge the price they want for their product but it's OK for you to pirate a copy? There are too many citizens of the U.S. that don't understand the basics of a capitalist economy or are too immature to take proper action when they don't like what they see in pricing or product features. Grow up.

Just to add fuel to the fire, and make some more students mad...... I work for a company that has an Apple online employee store as we get discounts on Apple hardware and software. I just checked and with my discount I can get Leopard for $107.10

 

[akac]

If they wouldn't have bought it otherwise, it isn't, and that is why the two are distinct legally.

Seriously, you don't want it going the other way. You could get nailed for infringement for loaning someone a book, or reading it out loud in public.

There is a balance. That's why its different than outright physical theft. RIAA goes way too far one way and the others who say its not theft at all go way too far to the right. There is a middle ground where its wrong, but not so wrong that people go to jail for it.

 

[jackc]

This is criminal of Apple to do. If their reasoning is that non-students were abusing their policy, they can only blame their policy which required no ID when ordering online...

I'm going to the Apple store on Friday with my student id. If they don't sell me a copy for $69, then I'll just borrow a copy from someone.

What's your argument going to be? That's what a different product used to sell for? Please videotape and post to YouTube.

 

[CrazyWingman]

Oh, and stealing is taking someone's property away. Copyright is property. You're stealing.

Your third sentence doesn't follow from your first two. As you said, stealing is taking someone's property away. By copying software, you have not taken anyone's property away - they still have their software. That's why copyright infringement is a different animal.

(Notice that this doesn't say that copyright infringement is not every bit as serious - only that it is not stealing.)

 

[wesleyh]

Has anyone read the 300 new features page? Wow, what a load of crap that was. Russian localization: Yay! A new screensaver: Yay! Another new screensaver: Yay!