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Some are absolutely not features at all. I mean, why does the fact that Leopard includes FrontRow count as a feature, considering FrontRow was in Tiger?? Likewise for photobooth, etc.

Becuase Frontrow is new and improved and has new features in it, as does Photobooth - with a lot of the same effects such as backdrops that are also in iChat.. if you read the features list it tells you all this!
 
Just pre-ordered the Family Pack. Says it will be here by the 26th, which is great! But for those expecting to see the package on your doorstep when you get home, heed the warning:

Delivery Note:
Most shipments require a signature on delivery. However, we offer an easy way to sign for your package even if you can't be present. Click here for details.

Might want to fill out the signature form if you aren't going to be home...... Would hate to see teary-eyed posts from people who didn't know, and missed the delivery.
 
"But we DO see scores of unfilled teaching positions. "

Where?

This should answer your question. Is your head really that far in the sand that you're unaware that there's a teacher shortage in this country?
http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ope/pol/tsa.pdf

"The normal capitalistic forces don't work with teaching"

Yes, they do, and they are working. The decisions are made by organized labor, intent on the maximum amount they can "harvest" from a school district. The winning play for them is low/no teaching standards, tenure as a proxy for ability, and the resulting low wages due to oversupply.

The unions will tell you it's dollars and class size, the data will tell you those have very low correlation with outcome.

Socialism's last hope in America is our public school system.

It's a difficult situation, and there are a number of factors on both sides of the issue that complicate things. The system does need reform, but changes need to be made in a way that keeps both sides happy.

If you just raise qualifications for teachers without anything in return, you just drive more qualified people away.

Something like raising qualifications needs to happen in tandem with better compensation. If your boss suddenly said you needed to fork out for more education but you would get nothing in return, would you do it or would you go work somewhere else?

Tenure exists because it's the only way schools have been able to attract teachers to a job with so many other downsides. Getting rid of tenure with no other changes would just drive qualified people away from teaching. Personally, I think it would be good to get rid of tenure but only in tandem with other changes to compensate, and better attract qualified people to the teaching profession.

Teachers aren't in a position to demand more money (other than striking, those evil pinko commie unions). If the teaching profession doesn't pay well and provide incentives competitive with other jobs, the best and the brightest will go to those other jobs.

To simply make a blanket statement that pay is adequate is simply moronic.

In any other business, if you were offering minimum wage and not getting qualified applicants (and you would get applicants, just not quality ones), do you honestly think that raising qualifications would get better people to apply? You offer a better salary, and THEN when you get more applicants to choose from.

With no incentive for qualified workers, your options are to leave the jobs unfilled or lower standards. How can you say "it is working" when the american educational system is so bad right now?
 
With no incentive for qualified workers, your options are to leave the jobs unfilled or lower standards. How can you say "it is working" when the american educational system is so bad right now?

On the one hand there are too many qualifications, but they are the wrong ones. Experts in their field who want to teach have to jump through hoops, getting certified in useless education programs. The unions like it because it provides a barrier to entry.
 
My only disappointment is that Time Machine use a external drive

A backup to the same drive isn't a backup.

Anyone else notice that the alleged updates to QuickTime are now conspicuously missing in the announcements and on Apple's OS X web page? I.E. captioning support and other accessibility enhancements?
I could have swore these changes showed up already.
 
That also violates the Family Pack license, since all the computers must be in the same household.

Is Apple really gonna come after you? No. For all they know, at the time you bought it you and four of your friends lived together in the same house. I wouldn't worry about it. Microsoft does the same thing with Office and I know for a fact people share that with others. If you have 5 people get the family pack.
 
Yeah but the whole point of EDU discounts is not because students are poor. Even tenured professors with 6 digit salaries qualify for the EDU discount. The idea behind EDU discounts is to give people in EDU an incentive to buy Mac and then evangelize to the outside world. I understand why Apple go rid of the iPod discounts, but tightening up on Apple s/w makes no sense. Even M$ has a better deal on Win for students. I think the EDU price for Leopard show a bit of hubris on Apple's part. You can get Leopard for less just buying retail from an Apple reseller like MacMall.

hmmmm I think edu discount from staff and professors are perfectly valid, considering the fact that people in private industry make way more than a basic tenured full prof's salary!
 
"considering the fact that people in private industry make way more than a basic tenured full prof's salary!"

Not everyone in private industry makes more than a full prof. Only those who make a more valuable contribution than a full prof, and that's far from everyone. Let's face it, a group of folks sitting around granting each other doctorates for rewriting the same junk science papers don't contribute all that much to society.

"This should answer your question. Is your head really that far in the sand that you're unaware that there's a teacher shortage in this country?
http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ope/pol/tsa.pdf"

As you probably know... that is a link to a self-reported report from the states declaring themselves as having teacher shortages so that they can qualify their teachers for loan forgiveness. Most of the states happily comply.

You'd need to spend some time inside the system to know how unintentionally laughable it is to rely on that data for anything.

Do the field work... next time a school district posts an opening, call and see how many qualified applicants applied. It will be 100x the number of openings.

At the current level of qualification, anyone with a certificate can teach. That means the equilibrium wage is much, much lower than it would be if actual qualifications were enforced, because the more qualified individuals have a better BATNA (Best Alternative To A Negotiated Agreement) and can afford to walk away.

But, in keeping with the "It's all about Apple sticking it to the students", I promise you may have the last word on this one.
 
$13 EDU Discount...Sweet!

This is my first upgrade after switching to the mac in March. I am in my last semester of school, so I still qualify for the EDU discount. After hearing the pricing in the keynote earlier this year, I wasn't expecting any discount from Apple on the new Leopard. $13 takes my wife and I out to dinner, (if we share a meal :). I can't wait until October 26.
 
Anyone know if I order Leopard today will it SHIP on the 26th or will it get DELIVERED on the 26th?
 
I just found the date kinda strange in my email from Apple. Yes the screenshot shows windows... (work computer :rolleyes:)

I can't wait until the 26th!!!!!

I've always got my copy of OSX from my College Store, but I'm so excited about Leopard I don't care about the price this time (I saved for the $129.00 just to get it from the Apple store. Yes I'm strange.) We finally got an Apple Store in Salt Lake and I will be there for the release.

Time Machine.
 
On the one hand there are too many qualifications, but they are the wrong ones. Experts in their field who want to teach have to jump through hoops, getting certified in useless education programs. The unions like it because it provides a barrier to entry.

ALL people who want to teach have to jump through hoops, whether they have teaching degrees or not, and the hoops increase all the time. But is it all the fault of unions? I don't see that, seems like an easy scapegoat.
 
On the one hand there are too many qualifications, but they are the wrong ones. Experts in their field who want to teach have to jump through hoops, getting certified in useless education programs. The unions like it because it provides a barrier to entry.

As a teacher, "expertise" at anything lower than the collegiate level really isn't required. I occasionally draw on things I learned in my graduate education (I didn't always plan on this career), but it's not at all necessary. Honestly, doing advanced research in a biomedical company won't help you teach teenagers how a basic chemical equation works, just like my knowledge of number theory is little help when teaching informal logic.
 
The fact that teachers are wholly underpaid is one of the biggest myths out there. Heck, they make more than nurses & chemists. Crazy.
 
Do the field work... next time a school district posts an opening, call and see how many qualified applicants applied. It will be 100x the number of openings.

That's exactly right. I know someone who is trying to get a teaching job and it's hard. while the number is not quite 100x, it is about 50x, no kidding.

I think you both are arguing from a false premise that all school districts are equal. A well funded, high test scoring school will be the target of many teachers while poor schools/communities suffer from lack of enthusiastic applicants, hence the gov stepping in to forgive student loans for new teachers who agree to teach there.
 
One of the reasons that TimeMachine is on an external HDD is because if the internal HDD crashes you have a back-up of your files. Curious if TimeMachine makes a back-up of the entire OS for each user, unless that is a OS 10.6 feature. :)

External HDD solutions are a safe bet, might add to the cost however its a safe bet nonetheless. :)

I know that ,very thanks. I've been using external drive since 2002 summer(at that time, it had only 20G capacity, but I manage to install Rainbow6-Black Thorn on it to free my mother 4G hardrive Toshiba laptop). But I now use a MBP ,with only two USB ports and Firewire's plug are easy to get off. As I gonna have a 250G drive next year, I will really love to see Time Machine able to use interal drive, I don't banish the external, but at least, give the bigger and bigger internal drive a chance!!!!!! (Use both to be correct)

BTW, you are now a member ,but I'm still a newbie, we register at nearly the same time. How do you get to this?:confused::)
 
This is criminal of Apple to do. If their reasoning is that non-students were abusing their policy, they can only blame their policy which required no ID when ordering online...

I'm going to the Apple store on Friday with my student id. If they don't sell me a copy for $69, then I'll just borrow a copy from someone.

Which really would be criminal. ;)
 
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