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Apple Officially Discontinues 30-Inch and 24-Inch Cinema Displays

Max(IT) said:
Absolutely right! This forum is becoming a bunch of whiners, lately ... :rolleyes:
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Actually I see this forum as becoming more like a bunch of people who are becoming indicative of the shallow Apple market that only came on board when the iPod became popular.

People who really have no clue about the origins of Apple, never used Apple in a professional capacity and have no idea how far out of touch Apple is going with regards to professional users. The users who kept Apple afloat before it became shiny and popular with the kids and soccer moms.
 
Looks like my two 30" ACD's are going to need to hold together for a lot longer than I expected.

Ok. So the cheapest 27" iMac is $1700. And the 27" LED monitor is $1000. Does that mean all the "computer innards" of the iMac are worth $700? Me thinks not.

Overpriced. At $699 I MAY entertain the idea.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
Actually I see this forum as becoming more like a bunch of people who are becoming indicative of the shallow Apple market that only came on board when the iPod became popular.

People who really have no clue about the origins of Apple, never used Apple in a professional capacity and have no idea how far out of touch Apple is going with regards to professional users. The users who kept Apple afloat before it became shiny and popular with the kids and soccer moms.
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Give this man a trophy.

Wholeheartedly agree.
 
For those whining that this is overpriced, find me a sub-$1000 27in IPS panel. I'm not saying I like this news, but if you're going to whine, do it for the right reasons.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
Actually I see this forum as becoming more like a bunch of people who are becoming indicative of the shallow Apple market that only came on board when the iPod became popular.

People who really have no clue about the origins of Apple, never used Apple in a professional capacity and have no idea how far out of touch Apple is going with regards to professional users. The users who kept Apple afloat before it became shiny and popular with the kids and soccer moms.
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Yep.
 
ProwlingTiger said:
For those whining that this is overpriced, find me a sub-$1000 27in IPS panel. I'm not saying I like this news, but if you're going to whine, do it for the right reasons.
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Ok. Got me there. The closest thing is the NEC at 1,300ish. Then again it comes with more ports.

My whining turned to a slight frown.
 
Can't see the point of getting rid of the 24" it was really easy on the eyes. I guess this will open the doors for other company's such as hp & Nec, samsung to step up development & sales on the display side.
 
Oh man, the world is going backward. If anything I was jonesing for "Retina" dpi specs to get rolled into the desktop world. Sigh.
 
Voytech said:
Looks like my two 30" ACD's are going to need to hold together for a lot longer than I expected.

Ok. So the cheapest 27" iMac is $1700. And the 27" LED monitor is $1000. Does that mean all the "computer innards" of the iMac are worth $700? Me thinks not.

Overpriced. At $699 I MAY entertain the idea.
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The display is stunning. Ever think that maybe the 27" iMac is, gasp, under priced to attract consumers?:eek::eek::eek:
 
Voytech said:
Give this man a trophy.

Wholeheartedly agree.
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Thank you. My first Mac was a Classic II I believe, the first one with a small HD. I worked on my Dad's as well, an original Classic without hard drive. Never owned a PC. Saw the rise of G3, G4, G5... In those times Apple brought innovations to computers. Many things first in Macs, than later in PCs. These days...? Rarely.
 
Apple is not set to be the end-all, be-all

I think people need some cheese with their wine. So Apple isn't making a 24 or 30 inch display any more. You claim they don't care about the pro market.

Really?

Apple is in to making computers. There are plenty of monitor manufactures out there. If you want another monitor go buy one. There are cheaper options and we could probably argue until we are blue about the specs and which one is better. It doesn't matter - you can buy adapters 'til the cows come home to make any monitor fit pretty much any computer including Macs. If you look at this from a BUSINESS stand point, trying to get into the monitor business probably is not that lucrative and likely proved by the lack of sales of 30 inch monitors. It makes sense to have a monitor the same size of a screen you are buying to make an all-in-one computer. This is pure inventory control and allows Apple to save money in one area to invest in another.

You say Apple is forgetting the pro market. Since when? You mean you can't buy a Mac Pro and stick in a video card of your choosing? Last I checked, the only thing which would limit me from installing ANY video card was driver support by the manufacturer. Now maybe I'm missing something and not any card can be installed but I have installed many high end cards in Mac Pros so at least I have options just as I do on the PC side.

Perhaps you mean Apple is ignoring the Pro market because they aren't making a 30 inch monitor? Hmm, so do you have two sitting with every Mac you or your business own? My guess is the MARKET (which includes PROS) didn't support Apple's 30 inch monitor enough to make it worth while. Should they keep throwing money down the toilet like MS does on losing projects just to satisfy a smaller market? Again, not like you can't go buy a 30 inch from someone else!

Maybe you mean Apple is ignoring the Pro market by not updating software enough? Wait, you did say Apple right? Not Adobe? Not Quark? Not some other high end Pro software creator? Not MS who plans to support XP for 20 YEARS? Surely not Apple who has released how many updates and new versions of the OS over the past 10 years? I hope you weren't expecting Apple to dictate how other companies write their software!?

Now for some TRUTH:

1. If you work in a large company, odds are you are still running a later version of most PRO software. I bet you are still running CS4, perhaps even CS3 and I know a few businesses still running Quark 4 granted largely due to OTHER legacy systems the company doesn't want to UPGRADE! Know what? They are still producing PROFESSIONAL stuff! The bean counters hold back software and hardware upgrades more than Apple will ever hold it up in a large corporate environment.

2. If you are a small pro business - you understand value and know that just because a new version of Final Cut/Adobe Creative suite comes out doesn't mean the one you own stops working or is no longer "professional." You also know how you can't always afford to upgrade to the latest hardware, no matter how much you might "like" to upgrade. Again, a new Mac Pro or PC doesn't mean your older computer stops working or means you can't produce professional work.

3. I'm NOT defending Apple at all, just calling out all the FUD. 10 years ago when the candy colored iMacs came out people were saying the same thing. 10 years later people are still producing great things on Macs. What I don't see are some of the same PC manufactures in business! Hmmmm, maybe that is a clue.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
Actually I see this forum as becoming more like a bunch of people who are becoming indicative of the shallow Apple market that only came on board when the iPod became popular.

People who really have no clue about the origins of Apple, never used Apple in a professional capacity and have no idea how far out of touch Apple is going with regards to professional users. The users who kept Apple afloat before it became shiny and popular with the kids and soccer moms.
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For the record since I also posted about the winers, I've been using a mac since the 80's. Granted that was high school but have used it professionally since OS7. Been on this train for a while and ran multiple mixed computing environments from desktops to servers. I'm not a band wagon jumper.
 
PatriotInvasion said:
The display is stunning. Ever think that maybe the 27" iMac is, gasp, under priced to attract consumers?:eek::eek::eek:
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I know what it looks like. We have a 27" iMac too. And a 24". And also a dedicated graphics station with a EIZO 24". Trust me, I know a good image when I see it. The glossy screen artificially boosts contrast. Sure things look pretty on it, but they are far from accurate.

As for the pricing, I doubt any apple product is underpriced. Look at the Taiwanese mac mini fiasco. Apple is probably still making some money or going at cost on these. So I'll agree that the entry level 27" iMac is priced "attractively".
 
cvaldes said:
The computer monitor market is cut-throat. Apple is probably finding it difficult to compete while still maintaining their margins.

This is probably just their token monitor offering for those who insist on having an Apple display. They are likely buying 27" screens at a more favorable price since there's an iMac that may be using the same part.
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Precisely.

Apple stopped making monitors a long, long time ago. 2004, to be precise - that's when the current Cinema Display 30" was released. Then in 2008 came token monitor #1, which wasn't so much a monitor as it was a computerless iMac 24". Now that the iMac 24" has been replaced by the 27", it's time for token monitor #2, a computerless iMac 27". Same panel, maximum cost efficiency for Apple.

Due to Scrooge Jobs' pathological profit hunger which is unparalleled in the business, they just won't settle for normal margins like every other tech company – they only want to play if the profit margin is obscene. Which is why they'll probably one day phase out Macs as well and go 100% iDevices, in search of Steve's wet dream of 99.9% profit margin. He probably hates himself every day for not coming up with the Pet Rock.
 
skellener said:
It's not Apple, but it's close (and cheaper)....

CinemaView 24 - $399.

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These look really good, any clues on buying outside the US? The links given on their site don't really help!
 
I have just dropped using Apple Aperture to Adobe Lightroom 3!

I would love the new 27" instead of my 24" but Apple only ONE monitor for all! Is that really a solution apple?
 
Anuba said:
Precisely.

Apple stopped making monitors a long, long time ago. 2004, to be precise - that's when the current Cinema Display 30" was released. Then in 2008 came token monitor #1, which wasn't so much a monitor as it was a computerless iMac 24". Now that the iMac 24" has been replaced by the 27", it's time for token monitor #2, a computerless iMac 27". Same panel, maximum cost efficiency for Apple.

Due to Scrooge Jobs' pathological profit hunger which is unparalleled in the business, they just won't settle for normal margins like every other tech company – they only want to play if the profit margin is obscene. Which is why they'll probably one day phase out Macs as well and go 100% iDevices, in search of Steve's wet dream of 99.9% profit margin. He probably hates himself every day for not coming up with the Pet Rock.
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Yes, Apple makes a profit it is not a crime or sin. Last I checked, many of those other tech companies aren't doing so hot. Oh, and we live in a free market where no one is holding a gun to your head to buy an Apple product.

You say Job's has a "profit hunger which is unparalleled in the business." Have we forgotten about MS who used it's market influence to strong arm companies to install a crappy web browser or shove out other intel based OSes? Again, Apple isn't perfect but it has caused music producers and the public to meet in the middle for legal downloads of music at a decent price point and with DRM the MUSIC industry agrees to. Apple also upset the apple cart in the cell phone industry DECREASING the cost of data plans AND the cost of applications for cell phone while at the same time IMPROVING the quality of those applications and the phone itself.

And if you just want to keep this to computing, back in 2001 (I think) when Apple first released the iLife products (granted not called iLife then) it was revolutionary in terms of 1) how easy it was to organize your personal photos and make nice home movies and 2) price. Prior to that iLife type products were all separate, not included with the OS and hardly came close to being of semi-pro quality. Matter of fact, some of the apps (iMovie mainly) was so close to pro quality you actually had professionals using them to make *gasp* professional content! Best part - it came with every new mac or you could buy them for $79 dollars.

Wait, iLife and the same core components cost $79 back in 2004. You mean Apple has continued these products and NOT increased the price since at least 2004? Steve must be starving for his profit! I will concede one point on the iLife part - I do consider any version of iMovie after 2006 to be a downgrade so you could argue for this ONE part of iLife Apple did reduce functionality with out decreasing the price. To be fair, if you look at it they did introduce FCE which is cheaper than FCP and some people I know do find the new iMovie09 interface easy to use. Having used pro video editing apps I do not but I digress.

Again, just trying to shed some HONEST light to this. If you really are that unhappy with Macs/Apple the great thing is our capitalist market system will allow you to speak with your wallet.
 
xgman said:
Here is a new 30" monitor from HP that might fit the bill for those looking for 30"

http://gizmodo.com/5552558/hps-new-30-zr30w-display-can-show-over-a-billion-colors
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The panel frame looks OK (almost identical to my Dell 3007WFP, in fact), but why do all these monitors have such a butt ugly stand? It's like they're having a secret contest to see who can come up with the most hideous stand.

- Hey look, we made one that looks like a blobby deformed duck foot!
- That's nothing, ours is oval shaped and transparent!
- Amateurs! We made ours from discarded toy guitars, red with flashes on them!
 
It's kind of weird, like the rest of America, it feels like the Middle-Class is being phased out.
 
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