Apple on iPhone 4 Reception: Signal Strength Display Issue Only, Software Update Coming

[Ori]

I don't think it's that easy. From my point of view I've had the 3G, 3GS and couldn't wait for the 4. I've sold my 3GS. I want the iPhone that was promised and if there's a chance of getting that then I will do what it takes. If we all sit back and say "it's alright Apple, I'll buy a bumper from you to fix the problem that you missed" then what will happen? There will never be a fix. People just have to stop bending over for Apple and admit that they have made a mistake.

I agree with you there. If people say ok and buy a bumper then they are just fuelling the problem. If people returned the product that would make a proper statement to apple.

Apple will never admit they made a mistake as it will open them up to legal issues.

I'd rather use my old nokia than suffer dropped calls. Luckily, i don't as i live in a very good reception area.

 

[-aggie-]

Jesus....the whole thread is opinions.
You talk about letting companies walk all over people. My limited understanding of economics is that if people don't buy a product (or return it), the company loses money and either stops making said product or improves it.
I may be wrong though........

Still it's your choice.....moan about the problem and the let infringing company keep your £599

+1. Also, whining in this forum is not going to make a bit of difference as to what Apple does or does not do.

 

[citrate]

Mine works.

I guess that's all the evidence we need.

 

[KnightWRX]

Mine works.

No, it doesn't. You are simply in an area where a 20 dbm drop in signal doesn't affect the bar display or result in the "No Service" problem. Your phone suffers from the same signal loss issue as every other iPhone 4.

+1. Also, whining in this forum is not going to make a bit of difference as to what Apple does or does not do.

The more people whine about this, in every venue possible, the more ink will be dropped about it and the more pressure on Apple.

You do realise you are free to not click these threads, as you know what type of commentary there will be hiding under the thread title right ?

 

[furi0usbee]

Don't waste your time people, this is just a guy trying to get advertising dollars from your clicks :

Clicks for money? LOL.. it just points to my blog... ok, here is the direct mp3 link... i'm not that smart to make money from clicks.... nor do I have the time. It's called a joke.... I make no money on it.

http://www.scriptedlizard.com/audio/iphonesupport.mp3

 

[Ori]

+1. Also, whining in this forum is not going to make a bit of difference as to what Apple does or does not do.

Thank you....may i point out i love your picture....

 

[-aggie-]

Mine works.

Mine too.

 

[citrate]

No, it doesn't. You are simply in an area where a 20 dbm drop in signal doesn't affect the bar display or result in the "No Service" problem. Your phone suffers from the same signal loss issue as every other iPhone 4.

Damn right!!

 

[cmaier]

Mine works.

If you brought it to my house it wouldn't.

Just like the consumer reports' phones worked in the lab in Yonkers, but not in another location.

 

[furi0usbee]

Don't waste your time people, this is just a guy trying to get advertising dollars from your clicks :

BTW... the sites that "advertise" on my blog are sites I own. Just don't buy anything from my sites and you can listen to the joke for free... some people are very uptight.

 

[Journojulz]

You whine about the whining. In the end, you are part of the problem you are denouncing.

In the end - I am happy with my phone.

If of others aren't, send it back and be happy.

Whining is only making people miserable - which will no doubt make them less likeable to live with.

The current situation is hazy and I understand the consumer's confusion about this whole thing. Confusion breeds anger and this mess is a direct result.

No confusion - if you don't trust apple - get a refund.

I want a working iPhone 4 and think that Apple should provide that for the £599 that I have spent.

Do you not think that everyone at cupertino thinks that?

If you can't be patient - go elsewhere.
Some customers are more trouble than they are worth.

 

[citrate]

In the end - I am happy with my phone.

If of others aren't, send it back and be happy.

Whining is only making people miserable - which will no doubt make them less likeable to live with.



No confusion - if you don't trust apple - get a refund.

I want a working iPhone 4 and think that Apple should provide that for the £599 that I have spent.

Do you not think that everyone at cupertino thinks that?

If you can't be patient - go elsewhere.
Some customers are more trouble than they are worth.

Do you let others walk all over you or is it just Apple?

 

[-aggie-]

No, it doesn't. You are simply in an area where a 20 dbm drop in signal doesn't affect the bar display or result in the "No Service" problem. Your phone suffers from the same signal loss issue as every other iPhone 4.

The more people whine about this, in every venue possible, the more ink will be dropped about it and the more pressure on Apple.

You do realise you are free to not click these threads, as you know what type of commentary there will be hiding under the thread title right ?

Please don’t tell us our phones don’t work. We’re not telling you that yours works are we? You have no idea what location we live in. I’ve been in places where I only have two bars and touching the spot does nothing. I’ve thoroughly tested my phone and was prepared to return it if I had the problems that some have reported. Anyone that knows me here, knows I wouldn’t write crap.

Your last paragraph pretty much sums up the problems on the iPhone forums lately. You don’t want a discussion; you want everyone to agree with you and make the whine factor louder. Anyone who says something different, well then it’s GTFO for them.

 

[spacemanspifff]

Secret signal test button...

I've been using the Vulcan death grip to prolong my iPhone 4's battery! How you may ask [or not], well, if I don't need to web browse for a while, I just touch the black line [or Apples secret signal tester as I now call it] and my phone tells me that the 3G signal in my current area is either good or bad - by dropping/not dropping all my bars! If the signal is bad, I just switch off the 3G in settings and I'm good to go on the slower edge network - which does not seem to suffer from the dead spot [could just be me - on O2 in UK], this way I get a working phone which does not drop my calls and it also makes my battery last longer!

Now for my rantings: I think the statement from Apple is proper BS! Come on Apple, start making iPhone 4's with an anti-conductive coating on the steel band and recall all of the faulty ones. Dicking around with the way the phone reports the signal strength is not fooling anyone, admit it, you ****ed up - your new phone does not work properly and this "non-issue" does not seem to be going away, so fix it and let's all move on.

Your company reputation is going the way of the iPhone 4's signal and it's not just forum fanboys who are complaining, it's been on the frikkin BBC news! You need to open your eyes and see that its no longer just the friendly media-artsy types using your products, every chav in the land has an iPhone these days and these people are a lawyers dream ticket to sue.

 

[HLdan]

Why am I not surprised? I'll try to use shorter words next time.

Yeah, just make sure you spell them all correctly while you finish dropping more insults and attacks.

 

[citrate]

Please don’t tell us our phones don’t work. We’re not telling you that yours works are we? You have no idea what location we live in. I’ve been in places where I only have two bars and touching the spot does nothing. I’ve thoroughly tested my phone and was prepared to return it if I had the problems that some have reported. Anyone that knows me here, knows I wouldn’t write crap.

Your last paragraph pretty much sums up the problems on the iPhone forums lately. You don’t want a discussion; you want everyone to agree with you and make the whine factor louder. Anyone who says something different, well then it’s GTFO for them.

Your phone is defective. Feel free to prove us wrong. This is where you use the line "I don't have too"!!

 

[citrate]

Yeah, just make sure you spell them all correctly while you finish dropping more insults and attacks.

It find it funny that you can't live with spelling mistakes but you are more than happy to let Apple take the p**s out of you.

 

[KnightWRX]

Please don’t tell us our phones don’t work. We’re not telling you that yours works are we? You have no idea what location we live in. I’ve been in places where I only have two bars and touching the spot does nothing. I’ve thoroughly tested my phone and was prepared to return it if I had the problems that some have reported. Anyone that knows me here, knows I wouldn’t write crap.

Yet no one has yet posted videos of these mystical 2 bars but no drop when held in the documented way iPhone 4s. No one has posted anything but anecdotes.

Look, it's fine if you have 5 bars and holding it doesn't change the 5 bars. Anand explained why this is so. But to claim the phone is not affected at all without proof and claiming anyone doubting your claims has no idea is ludicrous at best.

Prove it. Ball's in your court.

Your last paragraph pretty much sums up the problems on the iPhone forums lately. You don’t want a discussion; you want everyone to agree with you and make the whine factor louder. Anyone who says something different, well then it’s GTFO for them.

Your last paragraph pretty much sums up the problems on the iPhone forums lately. You don't want a discussion; you want everyone to agree with you and make the whines go away. Anyone who says something different, well then it's GTFO for them.

 

[Journojulz]

Do you let others walk all over you or is it just Apple?

I like the phone, if i wasn't i would send it back and ****.

The current infantile fashion for crying til everything goes your way is barely forgivable in my 2 year old.

In a grown up it is way beyond infantile.

Do you not think that everyone at cupertino wants the situation cured?

 

[HLdan]

It find it funny that you can't live with spelling mistakes but you are more than happy to let Apple take the p**s out of you.

I'm not letting Apple do anything to me. Where did I say that I owned an iPhone 4? If anything Apple's got you by the balzz. You refuse to return the phone and put up with poor reception and keep on ranting about it. Please do yourself the favor and stop the insults. You're doing it to more than just me and it's against forum rules.

 

[*LTD*]

Now that Apple has ANOTHER killer device out there, the competition is ramping up the FUD and throwing fodder to trolls and astroturfers in order to run with it.

There was actually a poll about this "issue" on MR??? You've gotta be kidding! ROFL, it's like asking white supremacists about mixed-race marriages.

i can't wait until the iPhone 4 arrives in Canada later this month so I can upgrade from my 3GS on the Rogers network and continue to get flawless reception.

 

[-aggie-]

Your phone is defective. Feel free to prove us wrong. This is where you use the line "I don't have too"!!

People that know me know my word is good. If you knew skunk, you’d know his is as well. Anyway, I’ve already seen people on these forums show their videos, and all it results in is people saying, “Not if you were in my location.”

 

[Magnets]

They are working on a software fix to an issue with the bar display showing 5 bars until very low in the signal band. This is not a fix to the 20 dbm loss of signal when holding the phone. Did you even read their statement ?

Did you read my comment, or are you just typing to hear your keys clack? Here, I'll quote it again. This time, wipe the drool off your chin and read carefully...

They're working on a software fix. If you don't believe the software fix will work, return the damn phone and wait until either the software fix is proven to work, or they embarrassingly implement a recall and replace the phone with hardware that works. Then you can pick up the iPhone 4.1, with no uncomfortable twisted panties.

So, recapping, here are your choices.

1. Return the phone for a full refund, knowing full well the fix won't work (because after all, your knowledge on antenna design and RF signals is infallible).

2. Wait to see if somehow Apple might just understand the problem better than you, and the fix just might make a difference. When the fix is issued, make a decision for yourself as to whether the fix worked or not, and either keep the phone or return it for a full refund.

After performing either of these actions, eventually, if there is a hardware problem that can not be fixed by software, Apple will either maintain that there is no issue, and you can happily use the funds received when returning your phone to buy a new, different phone that does what you want, or Apple may say there is a hardware issue, and start shipping a phone with a hardware fix, in which case you can use the funds received when returning your phone to buy a new iPhone 4.1.

All your choice. And all options let Apple know that you aren't happy much better than ranting like a six year old on a forum.

 

[citrate]

I like the phone, if i wasn't i would send it back and ****.

The current infantile fashion for crying til everything goes your way is barely forgivable in my 2 year old.

In a grown up it is way beyond infantile.

Do you not think that everyone at cupertino wants the situation cured?

Go's my way? I only want what I have paid for, nothing more. At the moment it's going Apple's way. They have peoples money and have provided a defective product.

 

[-aggie-]

Your last paragraph pretty much sums up the problems on the iPhone forums lately. You don't want a discussion; you want everyone to agree with you and make the whines go away. Anyone who says something different, well then it's GTFO for them.

That doesn’t even make sense. Show me a post where I’m saying someone doesn’t have the problem they say they have? Yeah….you can’t.