Every year I see multiple threads like this one. To give you some idea of people complaining about good, there is a thread in the Apple Silicon forum titled “M1 Max MBP has all these unnecessary ports….WTF?!”. I could not stop laughing.
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iPhone 12 Pro Apple, once cream of the crop has begun to curdle.
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What I have observed recently is that issues that one person has experienced, another person has not, even though both people are using the same kind of device, running the same version of iOS. I am not talking about border cases where a certain feature is causing the issue. For example, there is a storage calculation bug that incorrectly reports the available storage which can report higher than the actual max storage or zero. Another is the touch registration issue, where a touch on the display does not seem to register and you need to touch the display again for it to be acknowledged.
So I read this and my gut reaction is….”oooo didn’t get the iPhone 13 for Christmas like you had hoped.” But seriously, we have no freaking idea what Steve would think about the products of today. So eeeeh think what you’d like but come on with the pontificating ?.
My Apple products work just fine, yes they have bugs and quirks but so do windows and android devices ??♂️ And I know perfect doesn’t exist but these do great 98% of the time and that’s enough for me.
This is my favorite story customers used to tell me during my 7 years at apple. It never gets old.
I see a lot of smack-talk about iPhone 6. I'm still on a 6. ...granted, after a couple years, the battery only lasted for about an hour and a half, and it's so slow at random things you can wait 5-7 seconds for it to respond to your touch and is thus completely unreliable as an actual phone, but at least we can't downgrade it to a more useable iOS, otherwise we'd miss out on that sweet circa-iOS 12 security.
I think I started this post with the intention of defending the older iPhones. I have to admit, these phones are all just disposable computers with a few short years of shelf life, made in highly questionable conditions by a sweatshop company with a poor track record of human rights, and bound to fill the landfills with precious & toxic materials to be scavenged by third world children. But at least we can keep our eyes glued to a screen to view ads and get our dopamine dose every 3 minutes everywhere we go at all times. That's what's really important in 2021. And all it cost us was our representational governance and a couple genocides.
Sometimes I think back on what a great idea all this seemed like when it was new.
I think I started this post with the intention of defending the older iPhones. I have to admit, these phones are all just disposable computers with a few short years of shelf life, made in highly questionable conditions by a sweatshop company with a poor track record of human rights, and bound to fill the landfills with precious & toxic materials to be scavenged by third world children. But at least we can keep our eyes glued to a screen to view ads and get our dopamine dose every 3 minutes everywhere we go at all times. That's what's really important in 2021. And all it cost us was our representational governance and a couple genocides.
Sometimes I think back on what a great idea all this seemed like when it was new.
The classic Voice Control works better than Siri does.
Totally agree. Tim Cooks focus is making the maximum amount of money for himself and for Apple not making the best products possible for consumers. For Steve Jobs it was the other way around. That’s a minor but important difference. Steve also made a lot of money but for Tim this is the absolute priority… not consumers or human rights etc.
Oh wonderful another “Steve’s Jobs must be twisting in his grave” posts
Give it up already sheesh he’s been dead 10 years now.
Give it up already sheesh he’s been dead 10 years now.
I‘ve never had any iPhone ‘turn into a laggy turd’, and no, I don’t upgrade every year.
13 Pro Max is the best iPhone I've had. Fantastic battery life, performance, screen, build qualtity.
Siri is a piece of **** and I don't use it. Has nothing to do with the 13 PM though. It was equally **** on my iPhone 6.
Siri is a piece of **** and I don't use it. Has nothing to do with the 13 PM though. It was equally **** on my iPhone 6.
People who know me from this forum know I am the furthest from an Apple fan boy but my latest iPhone experience has been close to flawless within the realms of the iOS feature set.
This includes Siri. I remember the Siri of past and now there’s a night and day difference. I mostly use Siri for calling contacts and other basic task and have to admit I am yet to get strung up. Even Google Now has let me down more often on my S21 Ultra than Siri has on the iPhone 13 Pro on the basic tasks.
All operating systems have bugs and flaws but that’s the beauty of it. That is why we get updates and upgrades on a regular basis. As new features get added the operating system gets more complex creating new bugs which get fixed on an eternal cycle of updates.
This includes Siri. I remember the Siri of past and now there’s a night and day difference. I mostly use Siri for calling contacts and other basic task and have to admit I am yet to get strung up. Even Google Now has let me down more often on my S21 Ultra than Siri has on the iPhone 13 Pro on the basic tasks.
All operating systems have bugs and flaws but that’s the beauty of it. That is why we get updates and upgrades on a regular basis. As new features get added the operating system gets more complex creating new bugs which get fixed on an eternal cycle of updates.
I haven’t had issues with my last 2 iPhones in terms of lag after 1 year (8 Plus, 12). Both iPhones have worked perfectly apart from degrading battery life.
My M1 Mac Mini has one issue I can't stand (and I know it's macOS 11.6, not the hardware); it takes anywhere from about 15 to infinity (spinning beachball forever) seconds to start printing. 15 seconds, using PDF Reader Pro. And longer, if I use anything else. Whereas, if I use Windows 10 and Nitro Pro PDF 8, it starts printing in about 2-3 seconds. And I wanna know why!
I never dealt with "Antennagate" with my 4S. It was my first iPhone and I loved it. I traded it in for a 5c, which was my absolute favorite iPhone, til it went totally wonky on me and it was obsoleted by Verizon, so I was forced to upgrade... so I went to the 6S, which I still have. The battery is getting kinda bad and dying quickly (I put it in power saving mode as frequently as I can), but I also am only running iOS 13.4, because I'm worried it will run slower, if I stick iOS 15 on it.
My next "forced upgrade" will probably be the iPhone SE 2022. All hail the home button! May it never be left behind!
I never dealt with "Antennagate" with my 4S. It was my first iPhone and I loved it. I traded it in for a 5c, which was my absolute favorite iPhone, til it went totally wonky on me and it was obsoleted by Verizon, so I was forced to upgrade... so I went to the 6S, which I still have. The battery is getting kinda bad and dying quickly (I put it in power saving mode as frequently as I can), but I also am only running iOS 13.4, because I'm worried it will run slower, if I stick iOS 15 on it.
My next "forced upgrade" will probably be the iPhone SE 2022. All hail the home button! May it never be left behind!
Yeah, My "posts of question and reason" were taken down off that thread from the thought police.
A brave new world.... Soma is here, we just so happen to call it the internet...
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I agree with the general feeling (maybe Siri is not a good example though). But I think this is more visible on macOS, specially after Catalina I see a clear degradation in quality.
Well looking at HP and Lenovo and Dell, they are all still trying to catch up to Apple in customer service and product quality, and they don’t do the hard part of owning silicon production and software production as well as assembling computers. Whatever Apple’s faults are, they are still a few steps ahead.
Its extremely unlikely they will be able to catch up to Apple in terms of quality of product+customer service.
They offer too many devices and they don't manufacture their products+software the same way.
Apple has simplified manufacturing only a few products + software optimization. They have the control over the entire "user experience" (good and not so good, bad, ugly etc.)
These type of posts were old many years ago… Steve this, Steve that, come on?
Yeah Siri is dreadful to be fair. Whether it’s my iPhone or Apple Watch I find it often gets confused or makes a bizarre translation. Contrast that to Amazon’s Echo where it is so much more reliable, and it’s rather embarrassing for Apple. This is one of the reasons I didn’t invest in HomePod as the voice recognition that Siri uses is just so far behind the competition. I use my watch every single day for reminders and it’s comical what Siri interprets some of the most basic commands.
I completely agree with your sentiments around Siri. Pathetic when compared to the competition. I returned my HomePod mini because she couldn’t even get basics right, playing a song, simple multiplication calculation (52x$365 : apparently now updated but please - 2021 and your new speaker couldn’t do that!!). Moved on to Amazon and everything, speed of the smart lights, understanding me, not having to repeat myself anywhere near as often. So yeah surprised how crap Siri and the home smart system is given apple charges the most for everything (I’m an apple groupie otherwise and typing this from my iPhone 13 pro max). I also note that iOS has been buggier than ever. So often I think the website is stuffed or I have done something wrong because my phone isn’t registering responses and I atruggle to get iOS to change its mind on the subject. So many updates and they are definitely necessary.
I also don’t like, that they haven’t released anything magical in years. It’s glass slab with cameras And CPU every year - this year battery as well which was great. So I’ve got a flip on order and am excited about tech for the first time in a long time.
In saying all that - apple has the best customer service. They’re products are supported for a very long time. Enthusiastic staff generally speaking and they’re products although super functional are beautifully made. Let’s not forget how good they are.
I also don’t like, that they haven’t released anything magical in years. It’s glass slab with cameras And CPU every year - this year battery as well which was great. So I’ve got a flip on order and am excited about tech for the first time in a long time.
In saying all that - apple has the best customer service. They’re products are supported for a very long time. Enthusiastic staff generally speaking and they’re products although super functional are beautifully made. Let’s not forget how good they are.
Apple is a very different company today than it was in 2011. I don't think that is necessarily due to Jobs' death though...the company would have still evolved had he remained CEO. These are technology companies where everything changes and you either change with it or you go out of business. For that matter, it seems like sometimes it is easy to think everything was perfect at Apple during Jobs' tenure and now everything is crap...but that wasn't the case. OS X had issues back then, as did iOS, and there was occasionally systematically defective hardware...and Apple (and Jobs) didn't always deal with it very well. But, then, like today, I still think they get it right more often then they get it wrong, and the company overall tends to do well by their customers.
Also, not only is Apple more diversified in their product lineup, but Apple devices are way more complex than they were a decade ago. My iPhone 4S was a great phone, but it was a simple device compared to what we have today. I don't know the lines of code difference, but I would assume the testing burden with modern devices are many times that of older devices, even though consumers expect release dates for new hardware to remain on a 1 year-ish release cycle. Also, devices today have to interact with way more third parties than they did a decade+ ago, necessitating a different structure to testing, bug reporting, and troubleshooting. Simultaneously, we've found ourselves in a situation over the last few years where the world itself is very different, throwing a wrench into the mix.
Finally, as I am finding myself, one very major source of frustration is the transition from LTE to 5G, which is something Apple has limited control over.
In terms of Apple's priority about bottom line, they've always been about making money...that doesn't have to run counter to delivering good products or services to your customers. To the contrary, if you deliver crap, in most cases your revenue stream dries up.
Siri still kind of sucks. Not sure what's been happening there.
Also, not only is Apple more diversified in their product lineup, but Apple devices are way more complex than they were a decade ago. My iPhone 4S was a great phone, but it was a simple device compared to what we have today. I don't know the lines of code difference, but I would assume the testing burden with modern devices are many times that of older devices, even though consumers expect release dates for new hardware to remain on a 1 year-ish release cycle. Also, devices today have to interact with way more third parties than they did a decade+ ago, necessitating a different structure to testing, bug reporting, and troubleshooting. Simultaneously, we've found ourselves in a situation over the last few years where the world itself is very different, throwing a wrench into the mix.
Finally, as I am finding myself, one very major source of frustration is the transition from LTE to 5G, which is something Apple has limited control over.
In terms of Apple's priority about bottom line, they've always been about making money...that doesn't have to run counter to delivering good products or services to your customers. To the contrary, if you deliver crap, in most cases your revenue stream dries up.
Siri still kind of sucks. Not sure what's been happening there.
I have better things to do with my time than to come on the forum and troll. Take a minute and search for a well know issue on the Apple discussion forums. There is a button that says "I have this problem too". The counter in that button reaches THOUSANDS.
And don't give me BS that THOUSANDS are a tiny fraction of 1% of all users. Your "good enough" attitude is why Apple charges astronomical money for poor quality releases; people like you don't demand more!
It's common corporate thinking. Why pay 1 experienced programmer $150k annually when I can get three inexperienced programmers for the same price.
The evidence is telling something different
Something that is a fact is a fact no matter wether you call it BS or not. Satisfied people rarely post and you'll find someone being grumpy (rightfull or not) for every product/company.