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Looks like someone screwed up the links to the thread from the front page... Apparently my post went to the "New iPods and Pro Machines" thread :confused:

Anyways... this is what I said:

I hope Apple makes a smooth transition with the 5G iPod and the next iTunes update.

Adding video into the mix is making things more complicated. I for one found iTunes is slow for playing videos. I tried making a playlist of my Red vs. Blue collection, but it wasn't very smooth when the video was playing in a separate window (compared to playing in QT). And photo support hasn't been all that cool in my opinion because you can't view images you dump directly with the camera adapter, and only the iPod with the proper dock can make images viewable on the TV (and I think it could use some HD resolution support).

People (myself included) have complained about how a screen that's even the size of an iPod would be too small for videos of any kind. Even a PSP's screen is too small for me to enjoy a movie. Yeah, it's great and gimmicky for the nerds out there, but for the regular consumer it's not really worth it. I'll assume the iPod's screen size will increase and the scroll wheel will be nano-sized, but I don't think even then video playback will be cool. As podfuture has rumored, if there's some sort of update to the AirPort Express to support video out and the iPod has WiFi support or the iPod has simple video out support, at least you'd have a new storage medium for videos. I think it'll be more important Apple somehow figures out how to stream or broadcast a video file from an iPod to a nearby TV. Even better, Apple would just make a HTM (home-theater Mac) and forget about mobile video all together.

My final concern is video files are huge especially in high quality. Assuming Apple uses H.264 or Pixlet (highly doubt it), we're still going to videos that are compressed, and I bet there will be that anti-compression crowd complaining Apple compressed their videos without a lossless encoder :rolleyes: There's also the uncertainty if we're getting just music videos and trailers or feature films. If they're doing feature films, I'd hope there's a way to be able to burn yourself a nice DVD with complete menus, extra features, etc. because I think the DVD's loaded with extras are worth their price. Movies will have to be less than $10 and hopefully a nice $4.99 for a starting price. I just wouldn't be able to justify a $20 download of a movie if it lacks extra features, DVD-burning, and is stuck on my iPod and Mac. It's like the useless UMD movies on the PSP.

When it comes down to it, yes the video iPod is the next evolution. But, I don't think the movie industry has to fight a battle with piracy just yet, nor do I think the hardware and software is in place for it to be as simple as an iPod and iTunes, nor do I think DVDs are unfashionable. There's probably a bigger demand for a home theater system equipped with the best hardware and DVDs than having a device that's able to play movies on the go. The iPod Video (or whatever it'll be called) will probably be phased out and turned into the normal iPod with video playing capability and drop the video dock because it will be remembered as a gimmicky feature like the photo abilities of the iPod photo.

As a shareholder, it just doesn't seem like selling movies and having an iPod being able to play movies is as simple and rewarding as selling music and having an iPod play music.
 
Isn't it obvious? Apple said this would be the year of HD, and PowerBooks are way overdue for an update. I say it's going to be a widescreen PowerBook HD capable of 16:9.

Maybe new HD cinema displays as well.
 
Didn't the older strip / burlesque clubs use stages with curtains ?

iPorn . Apple missed releasing the iPex , so they went with the next best thing ( no clothes at all ) .
 
Hmm..... It's on a Wednesday, right. And it's says "One more thing..."

Sooo...

If "one more thing" usually follows other things before it.... and if Apple usually announces/releases stuff on Tuesdays.... then could it possibly be that maybe they'll announce updated pro Macs just via the website (I'm hoping for a PowerBook myself) on the Tuesday, and then "one more thing" on the Wednesday?
 
RoboCop001 said:
Hmm..... It's on a Wednesday, right. And it's says "One more thing..."

Sooo...

If "one more thing" usually follows other things before it.... and if Apple usually announces/releases stuff on Tuesdays.... then could it possibly be that maybe they'll announce updated pro Macs just via the website (I'm hoping for a PowerBook myself) on the Tuesday, and then "one more thing" on the Wednesday?

No it's referring to the iPod Nano. Otherwise it just wouldn't make sense right now....
 
RoboCop001 said:
Hmm..... It's on a Wednesday, right. And it's says "One more thing..."

Sooo...

If "one more thing" usually follows other things before it.... and if Apple usually announces/releases stuff on Tuesdays.... then could it possibly be that maybe they'll announce updated pro Macs just via the website (I'm hoping for a PowerBook myself) on the Tuesday, and then "one more thing" on the Wednesday?

Again, previously posted likely explanation for the Tuesday vs. Wednesday situation.
 
madmaxmedia said:
Okay, I've got a hint for all of you, try to figure it out...


http://www.mammals.org

wow that is screweed up. i have a feeling that if it is a powerbook update the screen if anything will really be the only thing update and probably a minor speed bump. as for the video iPods, im sure they will be relase especaially if they plan on releasing a video capable airport express. oh and as i said before what about the itablet that has been patented and all???
 
I just cant fathom "a new ipod" - whether in name or in spirit - its just too run of the mill for a special event like we just had for nano (and dont forget the itunes phone). in reality, even the nano hardly deserved such attention. Steve: "its smaller".

breaking it down, some things seem like sure things: new AP express that does video. and new itms site provides videos. but something to do with the video? what? everyone is focused on downloading videos but I think much more video content comes from private or other (think bittorrent) sources. why just make a product to store itms-downloaded videos? thats a small market. think bigger.

so I am imagining something in the form factor of a mac mini (could stack on top like the cool lacie firewire drives?) that provides a video service. HD tivo? people talk about apple buying tivo. pro: its an established brand. con: other companies (set-top box and cable/sat companies) have shown you can make your own tivo-like products so why pay a billion for it? directv just dumped tivo and said they'll provide their own. "sign up for .mac and you also get our programming feeds for free". that undercuts tivo by 50%.

despite many statements in the past that he later withdrew (eg "we're not looking at the sub-$500 PC market" -> mac mini), I cant see a vpod being interesting in and of itself. I can see firmware updates/software tools that let you transfer or record movies with 3-4G ipods. but why would you want to watch a movie on something remotely close in size to an ipod?

I think all the rumors of a new item just starting production are true. But I cant think that its just "a new product called a vpod". I'd think media center but a mac mini is already 90% there - and a "media center mini" isnt a new product.

So something that enables you to do all kinds of cool stuff with your ipod to do video but isnt just an ipod.

also - you can be sure pixar content will be available day one.

hints: curtains, "year of HD", "we learned alot in making the itunes phone".
 
I doubt it'll be anything more than another iPod. I would be surprised if there were actually computer updates involved. People always hype these events, and it always ends up being less than you expect.
 
New computers anyone?

It is really time for a computer update across the line. iPods are nice but the press is ipod'd to death. Every where you turn there is an ipod nano or itunes phone commercial. Give me a break!

video ipod is a yawner! Whoopee now I will be able to play 2 minute music videos on a 2" screen. Why would any sane human being watch compressed video on a 2" screen for a feature length movie. The future here is Blu-ray and big screen DLP projection TV's.

I think we are about to witness the first and last event to close out PPC era. New updates across the entire computer line, new HD PB's, dual dualcore G5 PM, etc.

Of course there will also be the obligatory new ipod updates, which yes will play short compressed video downloaded with itunes AV. :rolleyes:
 
Since I'm bound by the NDA I cant mention the specifics but I can say the bug I reported was fixed last week by Apple engineers..

now i'm waiting for the apple mafia to knock on my door :D
 
To readers complaining that Apple is becoming too iPod-centric:

Witness the slow but sure paradigm shift from the "computer" to the "appliance".

Apple is very much ahead of the pack.

I guess that's what visionary leaders bring... vision.


Anyways, 'tis an exciting time for Apple.
 
It amazes me how anyone could think this event's purpose is for updated Powerbooks.

Everything points to the video ipod. Things can be a lot simpler in life, if you study all the evidence, and see where it points you.
 
Macrumors said:


An anonymous source tipped us to an Apple Invitation-Only event to be held at 10:00 a.m. October 12 at the California Theater in San Jose. The invitation itself features red curtains in the background with simple white type in the middle stating "One more thing..."

Apple CEO Steve Jobs has often used the phrase "one more thing" at the end of Keynote addresses at large conferences to bring out new products.

IT'S THE INTEL POWERBOOKS! EARLIER THAN PREDICTED! HA HA HA HA.

Just wishful thinking....it must be the result of that bottle of Beam I drank earlier.
:D
 
My god! I was trying to read every post but the more I read the more kept coming. It was like a flood of posts that I just couldn't escape.

So finally I had to release myself into the wild and just post!

I am really really excited about this update. I think like some have said, this will most likely be all video and ipod based, doubtful there will be mac updates at this event. However, as other sources have said I do think powerbooks and powermacs are in the pipe. After all thinksecret even claimed that dual core macs were coming... they have to be right, they always are.
 
a special media event for bumps across the line? no. i do think the G5s and powerbooks may be updated, but that's not the reason for the special event.

ipod video? no. nice idea, but not gonna happen.

i am intrigued by the tivo-like mac mini kind of appliance...not sure that's going to happen, but it's something that could peak my interest...
 
I just don't see a video iPod being needed, worthy, cool, logical or even practical. You cab barely see the jpgs on it and now you'll watch a movie on a 2"x1.25" or something screen? Will it be 4:3 or 16:9? Why? You'd have to hold that thing less then 1 foot from your face to even see anything. That's just dumb to me.

Much more logical to me is Itunes Movie store and the streaming AE to your TV. That way you can download a purchased movie and stream it to your HT system. I'd buy that in a heart beat.

Video iPod? Ridiculously not needed.
 
powerbook911 said:
It amazes me how anyone could think this event's purpose is for updated Powerbooks.

Everything points to the video ipod. Things can be a lot simpler in life, if you study all the evidence, and see where it points you.

Yeah, you can make the easy assumption that it is for the video ipod but what fun is that?!

I mean "Who cares about a video ipod?" No one wants one of those, not even Steve Jobs.

However there are probably 500,000 - 1,000,000 Mac users that want the last big PPC update of the PM, PB, iBook, and iMac before the Intel infestation. Think Big. Not 2" video device, YIKES! :D
 
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