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If you mean "replaced by costumers for a newer iPhone" than I very much doubt that.
The 5s is the phone bought by people who just NEED to have the newest&best every year, so that quite a number to start with. This is also why I would guess that average margins is much higer here as more people are willing to spend on the 32 and 64GB models, spending 100 or 200$/Euro for an upgrade that cost :apple: south of 50$.

People buying the 5c are most likely casual users who won't buy a new phone before the old one breaks.

Even if you meant "replaced by Apple next year", I'd guess that the 5c will be moved to the bottom slot and stay available there for quite a while.

Says the guy who has just gotten his 1st SmartPhone, a slightly used 5 with 64GB + a semi-unlimited non-binding contract at 9.95Euro/month :p

I meant replaced as in not used anymore at all. An iPhone's typical life involve being handed down or sold used. Perhaps even two or three times until it hits that final drop or just is not worth opening up and replacing the battery. So I'm guessing these 5cs will have shorter lifespans than the 5ss. But this won't necessarily be dictated by the folks buying them on launch day. I agree those folks are flipping their phones at least every two years.
 
Yep – I was on the Apple Store app the second it refreshed at 12.01am – all 5s options were 7-10 days.

Not so. I ordered using the Apple Store app at 12:02. Put in my phone number (it did it automatically) and discovered I didn't have a cheap upgrade option. Had to start over and use my wife's number.

Got a 32 GB grey and it has shipping as 1-3 business days. Order was completed at 12:07.

In year's past I couldn't even access the Apple Store app without having to refresh multiple times.
 
Great experience this morning

I went to the AT&T store in Louisville, KY on Bardstown rd (40291) about 7:45 this morning. There was about 30 people in front of me and 5 in back. An AT&T worker came out and asked what each of us wanted, told us exactly what they had, and who would be able to get what they wanted. From the time I arrived to the time I left only took an hour! Great job AT&T Store.

By the time they got to me and asked what I wanted, they had no 16GB 5s, no gold, no white. They had plenty of 5c's. I got the 32GB space gray which is what I wanted anyway. I almost ordered this morning online, but decided to wait in line for the first time. I'm glad I did.
 
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Ah yes, I can imagine Jony Ive's phone conversation with friends and family in the UK in that eventuality...

Ha ha. Got me there.

But seriously, England is important and London is very important, but the fact that an unabashedly U.S. company might have skewed its limited stock in favor of the U.S. market really shouldn't be a shock to folks.

And even if the U.S., if you didn't buy on launch day (and I didn't) you are probably going to have to wait weeks. It isn't going to be that different from in England, I suspect.
 
Not so. I ordered using the Apple Store app at 12:02. Put in my phone number (it did it automatically) and discovered I didn't have a cheap upgrade option. Had to start over and use my wife's number.

Got a 32 GB grey and it has shipping as 1-3 business days. Order was completed at 12:07.

In year's past I couldn't even access the Apple Store app without having to refresh multiple times.

Are you in the UK? That's what I was referring to.
 
I JUST (8:15am EST) ordered my 64gb iPhone at a T-Mobile store and it's coming by Oct 1st.

The reps were told Carrier stores are getting priority over on-line orders because of the lack of supply. So if you order from a carrier, you're likely to get an earlier time than someone who orders from Apple directly on-line.

Just an FYI



Right.............do I have a piece of swamp property for you :)

NO, NO,NO,NO carrier store is ever gonna take priority over Apple store orders. That's not how it works.

Just an FYI!
 
Yep – I was on the Apple Store app the second it refreshed at 12.01am – all 5s options were 7-10 days.
I ordered my space gray a little after 12:45 Pacific and got 1-3 days.

The answer is: NO CASE.
The answer (not that the question is even relevant to the topic) is it's a matter of personal preference and it's a tired old question that has been endlessly rehashed by the near sighted that think that their own preference is what everyone else should do.

Not everyone covers their iPhone with a case. Some use a clear/transparent case. Even if one uses an opaque case why do others care? Worry about what works for you and do whatever that happens to be.
 
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I tried ordering as of 5AM central time from both AT&T, and the Apple site without a hitch. But both of them gave me a shipping date of Oct 1st. I decided not to pull the trigger because I couldn't change the shipping address. I don't expect any luck, but I'll take my chances later today. I would have just arrived at the Apple store early, but I'd have to rush to work after, and I didn't feel like waiting outside. Best of luck to everyone getting new phones today! :D
 
The US Store Gold 32GB for ATT had slipped to the 7-10 day mark by 12:08 PDT. I got my order in and was curious when it would slip and the first time I checked it had already slipped. Someone may know of an even earlier time then me.

same phone ordered - email received at 12:06, october date given.
 
I'd say it's about 40% people who over criticize Apple out of fear that they'll be labeled as fanboys (or maybe they just hold Apple at a higher standard), 45% fanboys, 1% rational Apple-device-owning consumers and yes, 13% trollers. Plus 1% other.

Wow that's some precise stats you have there. :D
 
Framingham, MA Area

Was planning on checking out lines at the ATT store near my office in Needham. Ended up being the 5th person in line at the ATT store on route 9 in Framingham at 7:40am this morning. They only had space grey but that is what I wanted anyway.

I ended up only being 10 minutes late for work which means it took an extra 30-35 minutes off my normal day.

Anyone else experience basically no lines? From the news broadcasts and online shipping delays I expected it to be much worse! :apple: :)
 
Did anyone who ordered from Target get their email yet? I called the store where I put my name on one but they didn't arrive as of 10 am this morning. I was told they could ossify show up today as the ups and fedex didn't deliver yet.
 
A lot faster than four hours...

Within four hours after Apple began taking orders for the iPhone 5s, Apple Store shipping estimates for new orders of the device slipped to 7-10 days in the U.S. and Canada, ...

Try less than three hours...

I was on my iPad at 5:45 AM EDT, aka 2:45 AM PDT, and it was already 7-10 days...

Of course, it was a 64GB Space Grey...

Still, for me, it beats standing in line!

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Ha ha. Got me there.

But seriously, England is important and London is very important, but the fact that an unabashedly U.S. company might have skewed its limited stock in favor of the U.S. market really shouldn't be a shock to folks.

And even if the U.S., if you didn't buy on launch day (and I didn't) you are probably going to have to wait weeks. It isn't going to be that different from in England, I suspect.

In all fairness, I think the launch countries could be shrunken down a little and cascaded over a few weeks/months as they used to do. However it doesn't seem reasonable a few key markets like US, UK, Canada and Germany etc. would be all on the same launch date. For me, I only got my iPhone 5 four and a half months ago, so it will likely the successor to the 5s that I will buy next.
 
A lot of people in line said they wanted gold. I think apple severely miscalculated the demand. Part of it is most people feel the Gold is the only phone that when people see it they will know you have a 5s

While this is not a knock on you for saying it, but how sad is this? I have to have gold so people know it's a 5s?! Do people really think others are that easily impressed? (Are they?) :( :eek: :apple:
 
There is a unlocked or T-Mobile version towards the bottom of the 5s page

There is only a T-Mobile version for the iPhone 5s
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While the iPhone 5c has a choice of T-Mobile or SIM free (Unlocked).
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I am not 100% sure of the differences (Is the T-Mobile phone unlocked or just contract free?) but I do see their is an option that 5c gets that 5s does not
 
Came here to cry about my first world problem. Called Verizon last night and said, "If I order online, and then go to a store and wait and get there early enough to secure a phone, can they cancel my online purchase?" They said absolutely. Woke at 2am, ordered a silver 16gb 5s, then got to the Verizon store at 4am. Waited 4 hours in the rain (the things we do for our significant others). I was third in line out of about 30. They grabbed my silver 5s 16gb, but couldn't complete the transaction since I purchased it online already. I told the guy "I called customer service last night and they said you'd be able to cancel." He said, "you heard wrong; there's nothing I can do." I left very pissed. Called Verizon again and they said all the guy would have needed to do was call to cancel the order. We'll end up getting the phone in a week, but needless to say that was a terrible way to spend a portion of my day off.
 
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