Not sure they need to; Best Buy or your local recycling center takes them.
Anyway, I understand your cynicism (and good point on the vouchers); but “Reduce” is one of the three R’s
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Apple Ordered to Stop Selling iPhones Without Charger in Brazil [Updated]
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Anyway, I understand your cynicism (and good point on the vouchers); but “Reduce” is one of the three R’s
Now we just need the U.S. to follow suit. It is egregious that Apple sells a product without the necessary means to power it.
Quoted for truth. Everyone who thinks otherwise is living in a fantasy land where they can have their cake and eat it too. Making changes that have an impact mean doing things differently especially ones that challenge entitled consumerism. Save the environment (but only if it affects everyone else).
Don't make everyone buy something because a few people want them. This is so fundamentally basic a concept, I'm not sure how we can have 19 pages of commenters just blissfully ignoring it to push their entitled demands.
The EU is pushing the opposite way so that no chargers are included in the box automatically for any phones or similar electronics.
Yes. Making it optional is probably twice the resources than either default decision.
How much zinc do we have to mine to make 200 million chargers a year that not everyone needs before you are willing to actually do something about the environment? Just to spite these shareholders you want to fill up landfills all over the world? Why?
I sense arrogance, and it isn't coming from Apple. I sense a whole lot of entitled consumers.
I would welcome this, seriously.
Apple is selling a product with no way to power it. When you buy a brand new product, it should be suitable for the purpose intended. An electronic device with no way to power it is defective by definition.
I have not seen a printer using a proprietary power cable/adaptor maybe since the late 90s. Pretty much majority of them have power supply built-in and use standard power cables.
Chargers with USB-A, yes. Chargers with USB-C, no.
All the apple apologists in this thread that says they don't want one anyway because they have a box full of them at home.
Green is more important, green of money that is.
Apple should just put this question on the order page: "Do you have a charger yes / no" And when the consumer answers no. They'll add $30 and a charger to it.
Ppl in Brazil don't buy an iPhone every year and don't have a box full of chargers.
Absolutely, Apple’s unable to sell new phones in Brazil as they don’t come with a charger. That’s a little under 20 percent of the phone buying public, though. Every single consumer could be mad about it and it wouldn’t add up to a lot of ire from potential phone buyers.
Glad that at least Brazil had the balls to order Apple for it. Before I bought my iPhone 12 I was using Samsung. That charger had only USB A port. That means I had to buy a new charger to use with my new cable. Apple started shipping USB C chargers with iPhone 11 only. So their arguments on having extra chargers lying around was a big lie as most of the people updates their phones once in two years. When you buy an extra charger even physically from the store, the packaging for charger and phone combined is much larger than charger inside the iPhone box. They could have made a GAN charger and reduce the size of charger instead. When Apple claim that they gonna reduce tonns of CO2 by not including the charger, the outcome was they caused much more to increase because of extra packaging and shipping. I wonder why the California state didn't do anything about it. They always try to be first in environmental protection
You buy a car and the dealer gives you a tank of gas. You get your refills yourself because it’s readily available, same for readily available chargers in your car, or drawer at home, or a new one online/in-store. Teslas now don’t come with mobile chargers either (although Tesla does give you a credit towards one or Wall Connector). Plus, many new cars cone with wireless charging pads so that’s yet another option to charge your new iPhone without a charger in the box. Why include charging accessories that are already ubiquitous?
Frankly I prefer no charger and could even do without the too-short cable. I also don’t need the booklets nor Apple stickers in the box.
pretty sure Brazillians would just fly to US anyway since it is too costly.
plus, like apple said, everyone got their own adaptor with 2 usb-c inputs running 65W or something
plus, like apple said, everyone got their own adaptor with 2 usb-c inputs running 65W or something
Plus the old USB A to lightning cable you got with your own phone is probably broken, so without either a new USB C charger or a new USB A cable in the box your screwed. Money grab- nothing else.
So if the cost of the charger was indirectly included in the price of the iPhone, why not reduce the price of the iPhone if you’re not including the charger?
No. Better analogy would be that McD cuts a hole in the beef so you’ll get less meat. They tell you in advance and let you know it’s for the environment. You get less, but you still pay the same. And at extra 5% you can buy a beef without a hole.
Edit: And most likely they still kill the same number of cows at the end of the day, but there’s no way to proof that
You know what would really be an environmental savings? If phones came without the exterior housing. Still completely usable. If you hold it the right way. Besides, a lot of people put cases on anyway. Of course, Apple would be happy to sell you the housing for an additional fee if you really need it...
Apple should have just been honest about why they removed the charger, or not mentioned it at all. Making the "for the environment" claim reduced credibility and called far more attention to the change. If it was "for the environment," prices would have been deducted accordingly, and they weren't. It was "for the extra pocket change."
Nah, I don't think so. People are creature of bad habits and need educating. I know quite few who have numbers of spare charges around at workplace and home and who would stock-pile them if they were given for free. Apple knows this, pretty much any person with few brain cells knows this. Stand your ground Apple.
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Excellent point that must have went over their head. Not only that it's now a C to lightning cable, which is relatively newer, but also that the added waste in obtaining that new charger would probably be more than just including it right away lol.
Not to mention, if you have a C charger from their laptops or iPads, that won't work. You need a brick with a C port, not hard wired C. It's just too oddly specific, iPhones are the only unit in their lineup that still charges with lightning. along with some silly accessories
It's never, ever been about the environment. The charges costs pennies - but it's pennies saved. Plus the charger can then be sold separately so greater profits. Plus the outdated lightning cable with its stupid little pin-adressing slow-ass chip that (of course!) needs to be licensed to anyone who wants to make a charging cable.
For those who cares about climate change and wants to reduce carbon footprint, should certainly hope that one of the main motivation for Apple becoming carbon neutral for their entire supply chain is money. Nothing incentives a for-profit company like making a larger profit. Relying on the good will of the company management seems unreliable.
Apple isn't saying they're saving the environment and they certainly don't want to reduce their carbon footprint and environmental footprint for any price.
This is very simple. Apple wants to make a lot of money and at the same time make as little environmental impact as possible.
If Apple's lack of easy repair leads to more Macs being sold, they still have to account for that in their carbon footprint. By reducing the carbon footprint for chargers, they can have a larger carbon footprint due to repairs or lack of them and still reach their goals.
You can buy a USB-A-to-Lightning cable and still use your old USB-A charger.
No new charger needed.
Some of you seems to be obsessed with using the cable provided with the phone, but that's not necessary if your main concern is to avoid buying a new charger.